Perkins trade scenario

[PLamb]

Let's just say that for kickers Brendan Hatwood's agent came to Danny Ainge and said that Haywood wants to sign with and play for the Boston Celtics and would agree to a full dollar 4 year MLE contract

Would you, if you were Danny Ainge, sign him and immediately start shopping Kendrick Perkins around

If yes, would you look to trade him for a high draft pick or established player

Teams that could desperately use a long term solution at center would be OKC, Detroit, Sacramento, Washington, New Orleans, Miami and San Antonio

Does trying to tempt Detroit and Sacramento out of their lottery pick for this year sound like something we could get for Perk

Would multiple a player and a first rounder from OKC or Miami be tempting

Or would you just tell Haywood thanks but no thanks and use the MLE elsewhere

Personally I would sign Haywood and then trade Perk to OKC for Sefolosha and a number one pick or to SA for Roger Mason(S&T) and their number 1

Ultimately if we could entice Detroit or Sacramento out of their lottery pick for Perk, that is the way I would go

[jr_3421]

I would do nothing. Perkins is a sold role player, excellent defender, young and improving. Haywood is serviceable but for how long? And if we really wanted a high we could easily get one with a combination of cash and players. Centers like Perk are hard to find and if we are going to have to deal with Howard for the next ten years, Perkins becomes even more valuable.

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Looks like someone is having post-deadline trade scenario withdrawls.

[action781]

Do you not think that Thefalosha or Mason could simply be had for the full MLE next offseason? 

Why not just keep Perk, then offer one of those players the MLE?  You wouldn't even have to offer them the full MLE in my opinion, then take the remaining money and use it to buy a draft pick off maybe Phoenix, which would actually be a better pick than SA or OKC's.

I'd need a better player in return than Thefalosha or Mason to swap Perk for Haywood.  I do like Haywood's improvement over the years.  I was a huge fan of him and his 70% fg at UNC and thought he had potential to be the next Shaq haha, but I prefer Perk.

[PLamb]

Looks like someone is having post-deadline trade scenario withdrawls.

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Yeah, maybe, just thinking about the future as I was reading over some of the threads

Perk is going to require a hefty raise, whether he deserves it or not is debatable but he is going to come looking for Rondo money before to long

Haywood is a guy who could give this team almost what Perk gives it but if he signed a 4 year MLE contract he would be doing it at a much lesser price

Trading Perk could then allow the Celtics to possibly start rebuilding while contending if the Celtics could land a decent pick and maybe hit big in this, a very deep draft

[RJ87]

Do you not think that Thefalosha or Mason could simply be had for the full MLE next offseason? 

Why not just keep Perk, then offer one of those players the MLE?  You wouldn't even have to offer them the full MLE in my opinion, then take the remaining money and use it to buy a draft pick off maybe Phoenix, which would actually be a better pick than SA or OKC's.

I'd need a better player in return than Thefalosha or Mason to swap Perk for Haywood.  I do like Haywood's improvement over the years.  I was a huge fan of him and his 70% fg at UNC and thought he had potential to be the next Shaq haha, but I prefer Perk.

Thabo Sef. signed an extension already so he won't be a factor - too bad cuz he'd fit in perfectly with his commitment to defense.

As far as the scenario, I like Haywood but he is 30 yrs old. Perk has been a solid player for us and keeps showing improvement, and he's only 25. So I'd stick with Perkules.

[GranTur]

Perkins wants to play his entire career in Boston.

We want him here too. He knows how to win and he's a resilient defender who can neutralize any center in the NBA.

He won't be that expensive for us.

[Evantime34]

If we can keep him at a reasonable rate there is no reason to get rid of him. He has gotten better every year and is still very young so there is no reason to believe this won't continue.

[Who]

A Rondo + Pierce + Garnett + Haywood core is very good.

Add an established player through a Perkins trade + resign Ray Allen and team should remain a contender.

So, I would look to trade Perk for an established player (a very good-to-excellent role or low level star player). Too close to a title to give up on that possibility.

[PLamb]

Perkins wants to play his entire career in Boston.

We want him here too. He knows how to win and he's a resilient defender who can neutralize any center in the NBA.

He won't be that expensive for us.

But if a player like Haywood, who is very comparable to Perkins, could be had for less money than we could extend Perkins and Perkins could be traded for a borderline star value player or a bona fide role player and a mid to high first round pick, shouldn't this team look at the possibility that long term that might be better for the team

If C's could do such a trade and net a rotational player and a first rounder that could land them someone along the quality of Willie Warren, Damion James, Xavier Henry, Quincy Pondexter or Patrick Patterson, guys I think will be there between 10 and 20 that could be stars in this league, I think they have to do it

[Evantime34]

I think with so many teams having salary cap space most teams would rather cut out the middle man and sign Haywood to a contract larger than the MLE.

I do however agree that if you can get a high draft pick for Perk and have a replacement lined up you do that.

[sk7326]

I think with so many teams having salary cap space most teams would rather cut out the middle man and sign Haywood to a contract larger than the MLE.

I do however agree that if you can get a high draft pick for Perk and have a replacement lined up you do that.

i think THIS YEAR was the year to trade perk to get that sort of prize you wanted (a 1st rounder) ... because you would be dealing perk + 1 year of control ... a smart team would have jumped at that

next year might be trickier ... i think re-signing perk is a semi-priority this offseason btw.  If you can extend perk for $8-$10M a year, that is a more than fair price given his age and production, and position ... anything more you have to look around. 

[mgent]

I'd rather keep Perk and use the MLE on someone.  That'd be the logical way to do it no?

[the_Bird]

I think it's more and more likely that Perk gets traded.  Pierce will get an extension, probably for about the same dollars as Rondo gets.  Perk's earned himself a good contract, as well; he's a $10M/yr man on his next deal. 

So, does Danny want to go into the summer of 2012 with all three of those guys on the books (plus cap holds on any of our free agents), or with only $20M - $22M committed between Pierce and Rondo?

If Danny wants to rebuild quickly in two years' time, resigning Perk makes that more difficult.  So, don't be surprised by a Perk trade this offseason, get some value (1st round pick) for him, and signing someone like Marcus Camby to hold down the fort for the next couple seasons.

[Chris]

I'd rather keep Perk and use the MLE on someone.  That'd be the logical way to do it no?

Well, it depends.  I don't know what the "Logical" way of doing it is, if we don't know what we can get for Perk, as well as what the going rate will be for veteran big men like Camby or Brad Miller as stopgaps. 

For example, if they can get a top 5 or 6 pick for Perk (unlikely, but you never know), then the logical thing would be to trade him.  If you can get a young player, with a higher upside on a rookie deal (say, Perk for Michael Beasley), then again, the logical thing to do would be to trade him.

However, if you are just going to get a late first rounder, and a borderline rotation guy, then of course you hold on to him, get another year from him, and if he demands too much money, let him walk. 

Really, I think its impossible to know what will happen with Perk, but Danny would not be doing his job if he is not exploring every option, which includes trying to trade him.