Is 'Sheed our Odom?

[Fafnir]

Sheed is the more talented player. 


When he is motivated, he is the better defender. 


When he is motivated, he is much harder to stop. 

When he's motivated and in shape, he clearly isn't in good shape at all. Even when you're trying its hard to be effective with a spare tire (reportedly).

Hopefully he does work himself into shape (not just physically, but also mentally), because defensivley he is a step or so slow in rotating.  Most of his fouls have come from being late rotating.

His post defense is still top notch, as he still has the muscle and height. He is also quite a nimble with his defensive footwork in the post usually, something again which i hope progresses.

Its 2/3rds of the way through the season, he's as in shape as he will be for the year.

[moiso]

Their ability to not live up to their potential is their main similarity.  As of right now, Odom can still play and Wallace is washed up.  I'd love to have Odom off our bench for the rebounding.

[sk7326]

sheed is old and not trying very hard ... odom is more athletic, and occasionally tries hard, and really tries hard when they need him

[Fafnir]

Their ability to not live up to their potential is their main similarity.  As of right now, Odom can still play and Wallace is washed up.  I'd love to have Odom off our bench for the rebounding.

Wallace can still play, he's just no longer a high level NBA player. He's in the PJ Brown stage of his career.

Odom is still in his prime (the end of it though), remember how good Rasheed was his first three years in Detroit?

[moiso]

Their ability to not live up to their potential is their main similarity.  As of right now, Odom can still play and Wallace is washed up.  I'd love to have Odom off our bench for the rebounding.

Wallace can still play, he's just no longer a high level NBA player. He's in the PJ Brown stage of his career.

Odom is still in his prime (the end of it though), remember how good Rasheed was his first three years in Detroit?

PJ knew his role and was a far better rebounder than Wallace.  I remember how good Rasheed was in Portland.

[Fafnir]

Their ability to not live up to their potential is their main similarity.  As of right now, Odom can still play and Wallace is washed up.  I'd love to have Odom off our bench for the rebounding.

Wallace can still play, he's just no longer a high level NBA player. He's in the PJ Brown stage of his career.

Odom is still in his prime (the end of it though), remember how good Rasheed was his first three years in Detroit?

PJ knew his role and was a far better rebounder than Wallace.  I remember how good Rasheed was in Portland.

What has Rasheed done that makes you think he doesn't know his role on the team?

[Onslaught]

Their ability to not live up to their potential is their main similarity.  As of right now, Odom can still play and Wallace is washed up.  I'd love to have Odom off our bench for the rebounding.

Wallace can still play, he's just no longer a high level NBA player. He's in the PJ Brown stage of his career.

Odom is still in his prime (the end of it though), remember how good Rasheed was his first three years in Detroit?

PJ knew his role and was a far better rebounder than Wallace.  I remember how good Rasheed was in Portland.

What has Rasheed done that makes you think he doesn't know his role on the team?

That 3 with someone right in his face last night that got stuffed didn't seem like knowing his role.

[Fafnir]

Oh and I just checked the stats, P.J. didn't rebound all that much better than Sheed had done with us.

But he did have a few big playoff buckets for us on the way to a title for us. That's all I really want from Wallace.

[moiso]

Oh and I just checked the stats, P.J. didn't rebound all that much better than Sheed had done with us.

But he did have a few big playoff buckets for us on the way to a title for us. That's all I really want from Wallace.

Some physical play wouldn't hurt either.  Even Mikki Moore tried to be physical with his anorexic self.

[wdleehi]

Oh and I just checked the stats, P.J. didn't rebound all that much better than Sheed had done with us.

But he did have a few big playoff buckets for us on the way to a title for us. That's all I really want from Wallace.

Some physical play wouldn't hurt either.  Even Mikki Moore tried to be physical with his anorexic self.

Yeah.  We saw Mikki defending Howard as well as Wallace has.   

[moiso]

Oh and I just checked the stats, P.J. didn't rebound all that much better than Sheed had done with us.

But he did have a few big playoff buckets for us on the way to a title for us. That's all I really want from Wallace.

Some physical play wouldn't hurt either.  Even Mikki Moore tried to be physical with his anorexic self.

Yeah.  We saw Mikki defending Howard as well as Wallace has.   

No Mikki pretty much sucked at everything.  Wallace guards his man very well.

[Fafnir]

Oh and I just checked the stats, P.J. didn't rebound all that much better than Sheed had done with us.

But he did have a few big playoff buckets for us on the way to a title for us. That's all I really want from Wallace.

Some physical play wouldn't hurt either.  Even Mikki Moore tried to be physical with his anorexic self.

Yeah.  We saw Mikki defending Howard as well as Wallace has.   

Rasheed has underperformed the hype he got, but he's basically at the same level as he was last year.

He's still 10000x better than Mikki. (I do love Mikki though, go UNL!)

[JIMTONIK]

Odom is much better than Sheed.
Sheed got more talent,but sometimes he is not consistent.
Anyway I hate Lamerd Odom,he is for sure in my black list.

[sk7326]

Their ability to not live up to their potential is their main similarity.  As of right now, Odom can still play and Wallace is washed up.  I'd love to have Odom off our bench for the rebounding.

Wallace can still play, he's just no longer a high level NBA player. He's in the PJ Brown stage of his career.

Odom is still in his prime (the end of it though), remember how good Rasheed was his first three years in Detroit?

PJ Brown made fewer mistakes - which is paramount for a bench player.  Sheed is still making lots of mistakes in assignments, knowing what side of the floor to pass it to and the like.  Add the staggering number of Technical Fouls (which is only a problem because he has been so ineffective in the other stuff) and it is hard to ignore.

Sheed played more (during the season) and piled up comparable stats to PJ - but PJ did so much less wrong on the court in terms of assignments and composure ...

[TitleMaster]

Folks, I hope you're beginning to understand the comparison here... these are two fellows, playing for big franchises, who let down more than they deliver.

Sure, last yr's finals were great for L.O., however, realize it was a contract year for both him and Ariza. Now that the cash part is settled and his sidekick Ariza's got a nice deal out in Houston, Odom can go back to his usual self and that's the general all purpose slacker but with enough unrealized talent to be one of the Laker's top starting front men.

Likewise, Wallace was asked to be our *Bill Walton* but instead, he's becoming a cross product of Jim O'Brien's 'Toine and post knee surgery Chris Webber. And unlike the aforementioned duds, he doesn't have a valid excuse.