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Of course Chuck had to add his two cents and say that the Cavs would make it with Jamison.Personally I feel its going to come down to the team with homecourt unless the Cavs play the magin in the Eastern conference finals, then I think the magic have the cavs number
Quote from: Fafnir on February 19, 2010, 01:58:37 AMQuote from: Who on February 19, 2010, 01:56:28 AMI think the Cavs are overwhelming favourites to win the East. Not convinced that the Celtics can beat the Cavs now that they've gotten Jamison. I'm not either, I think they'd have to have a serious injury to LBJ/AV/Jamison.But even though they'd be favored I'd give the C's at least a 33% chance in a series, if Pierce can get back to moving well enough to passably guard LeBron.After watching Lebron put up 43 13 and 15...and lose last night, I realized two things:1. The Cavs have the same predictable one-dimensional offense that gets stale in the playoffs2. Jamison will not change things unless they drastically change their philosophy.It was painful watching Lebron get the ball 50 feet from the bucket last night literally every trip down the court. He made some spectacular plays down the stretch but also chucked up alot of threes and missed free throws. There is no ball movement in that offense and that always cathes up to teams in the playoffs. Ive said it before. If the Cavs had a different coach, they would probably have 2 maybe 3 titles by now.
Quote from: Who on February 19, 2010, 01:56:28 AMI think the Cavs are overwhelming favourites to win the East. Not convinced that the Celtics can beat the Cavs now that they've gotten Jamison. I'm not either, I think they'd have to have a serious injury to LBJ/AV/Jamison.But even though they'd be favored I'd give the C's at least a 33% chance in a series, if Pierce can get back to moving well enough to passably guard LeBron.
I think the Cavs are overwhelming favourites to win the East. Not convinced that the Celtics can beat the Cavs now that they've gotten Jamison.
Quote from: Greenbean on February 19, 2010, 08:24:14 AMQuote from: Fafnir on February 19, 2010, 01:58:37 AMQuote from: Who on February 19, 2010, 01:56:28 AMI think the Cavs are overwhelming favourites to win the East. Not convinced that the Celtics can beat the Cavs now that they've gotten Jamison. I'm not either, I think they'd have to have a serious injury to LBJ/AV/Jamison.But even though they'd be favored I'd give the C's at least a 33% chance in a series, if Pierce can get back to moving well enough to passably guard LeBron.After watching Lebron put up 43 13 and 15...and lose last night, I realized two things:1. The Cavs have the same predictable one-dimensional offense that gets stale in the playoffs2. Jamison will not change things unless they drastically change their philosophy.It was painful watching Lebron get the ball 50 feet from the bucket last night literally every trip down the court. He made some spectacular plays down the stretch but also chucked up alot of threes and missed free throws. There is no ball movement in that offense and that always cathes up to teams in the playoffs. Ive said it before. If the Cavs had a different coach, they would probably have 2 maybe 3 titles by now.I would like to add to that, the celtics are 1-0 against the cavs this season, so anyone picking the cavs, get back to me if they actually get a winning record against the celtics
Quote from: hpantazo on February 19, 2010, 10:53:20 AMQuote from: Greenbean on February 19, 2010, 08:24:14 AMQuote from: Fafnir on February 19, 2010, 01:58:37 AMQuote from: Who on February 19, 2010, 01:56:28 AMI think the Cavs are overwhelming favourites to win the East. Not convinced that the Celtics can beat the Cavs now that they've gotten Jamison. I'm not either, I think they'd have to have a serious injury to LBJ/AV/Jamison.But even though they'd be favored I'd give the C's at least a 33% chance in a series, if Pierce can get back to moving well enough to passably guard LeBron.After watching Lebron put up 43 13 and 15...and lose last night, I realized two things:1. The Cavs have the same predictable one-dimensional offense that gets stale in the playoffs2. Jamison will not change things unless they drastically change their philosophy.It was painful watching Lebron get the ball 50 feet from the bucket last night literally every trip down the court. He made some spectacular plays down the stretch but also chucked up alot of threes and missed free throws. There is no ball movement in that offense and that always cathes up to teams in the playoffs. Ive said it before. If the Cavs had a different coach, they would probably have 2 maybe 3 titles by now.I would like to add to that, the celtics are 1-0 against the cavs this season, so anyone picking the cavs, get back to me if they actually get a winning record against the celticsOh-Oh, based on that logic, I sure hope the C's don't get matched up against the Hawks in the playoffs.But, as far as the Cavs, it sorta depends on how much love the refs give to LeBron and how much they let him get away with, similar to when Shaq was in his prime and just bulldozing people out of his way and always getting the calls.
I'm sticking with my prediction that the dark horse Atlanta Hawks will win the EC. Jamison doesn't help Cleveland that much. He's just another guy to stand around watching LeBron do his thing. And Jamison makes tham worse, not better, at the defensive end.
Quote from: kenmaine on February 19, 2010, 11:06:17 AMQuote from: hpantazo on February 19, 2010, 10:53:20 AMQuote from: Greenbean on February 19, 2010, 08:24:14 AMQuote from: Fafnir on February 19, 2010, 01:58:37 AMQuote from: Who on February 19, 2010, 01:56:28 AMI think the Cavs are overwhelming favourites to win the East. Not convinced that the Celtics can beat the Cavs now that they've gotten Jamison. I'm not either, I think they'd have to have a serious injury to LBJ/AV/Jamison.But even though they'd be favored I'd give the C's at least a 33% chance in a series, if Pierce can get back to moving well enough to passably guard LeBron.After watching Lebron put up 43 13 and 15...and lose last night, I realized two things:1. The Cavs have the same predictable one-dimensional offense that gets stale in the playoffs2. Jamison will not change things unless they drastically change their philosophy.It was painful watching Lebron get the ball 50 feet from the bucket last night literally every trip down the court. He made some spectacular plays down the stretch but also chucked up alot of threes and missed free throws. There is no ball movement in that offense and that always cathes up to teams in the playoffs. Ive said it before. If the Cavs had a different coach, they would probably have 2 maybe 3 titles by now.I would like to add to that, the celtics are 1-0 against the cavs this season, so anyone picking the cavs, get back to me if they actually get a winning record against the celticsOh-Oh, based on that logic, I sure hope the C's don't get matched up against the Hawks in the playoffs.But, as far as the Cavs, it sorta depends on how much love the refs give to LeBron and how much they let him get away with, similar to when Shaq was in his prime and just bulldozing people out of his way and always getting the calls.I dont want to get off topic but that Shaq comment is rediculous. Refs had to call him differently because he would get absolutely hammered and guys would still bounce off of him. Bulldozing? Come on now he was physically dominant and guys had no defense but to foul him. If refs called him like they call everyone else in the league, he wouldve attempted like 20 ft's a game. You have the Shaq and getting calls thing backwards. Sorry rant over.
Shaq always got hammered down low - that he is actually strong enough to have guys who try to foul him bounce off of him in failure does not change that. I know it's not popular to be on Goliath's side, but he could have gotten to the line 30 times a game given how much he was hacked.
Quote from: sk7326 on February 19, 2010, 11:37:44 AMShaq always got hammered down low - that he is actually strong enough to have guys who try to foul him bounce off of him in failure does not change that. I know it's not popular to be on Goliath's side, but he could have gotten to the line 30 times a game given how much he was hacked. Nene did a outstanding job on him last nightlate in the gamePerk and BBD can easily math thatHes not that strong (age) to make you flywhen you have the toough defedig mentalityIts just a matter of dead weight
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