Chris Mannix on WEEI: "Butler AND Jamison available in salary dump"

[rondohondo]

He said that he knows for a fact there is a trade on  the table right now that Houston could get Butler and Jamison for Tracy McGrady's expiring contract.


I know its a lot of money, but if Wyc was willing to take it on this would be a great trade for Boston. They get KG insurance with Jamison and Butler is a very solid starter. Maybe Washington even buys out ray if we throw in a pick and cash?

[footey]

That would be nice, but same conference makes it less likely, all else being equal. An expiring contract is about $$, not who comes with it.

[PosImpos]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

[Donoghus]

As long as it's Houston that's doing it and not Cleveland, I have no problem with it.

[Drucci]

As long as it's Houston that's doing it and not Cleveland, I have no problem with it.

Yep, I hope the Rockets and Wizards get it done!

[Evantime34]

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The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

Houston is not parting with any of their young talent in a deal for T-Mac. The Wizards will get players from a 3rd team who is interested in T-Mac.

My question is why can't we take Houston's place and move Ray for Jamison and Butler? Then Ray goes to the 3rd team and the 3rd team gives up some youngsters and a pick for cap flexibility.

Would people do such a deal?

[Birdbrain]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

[crownsy]

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The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

Houston is not parting with any of their young talent in a deal for T-Mac. The Wizards will get players from a 3rd team who is interested in T-Mac.

My question is why can't we take Houston's place and move Ray for Jamison and Butler? Then Ray goes to the 3rd team and the 3rd team gives up some youngsters and a pick for cap flexibility.

Would people do such a deal?

I'll say it before and i'll say it again:

If ray allen moves as just a contract for an upper tier player, it will be the first time in the history of the NBA. Until it happens, im very skeptical about these teams who are supposedly lining up to help us out for a salary dump with no incoming talent.

His contract is attractive for teams, but no team is going to trade established players for an expiring and the hope that they might get lucky in FA.

That leads us to the problem we have, outside ray, we really don't have any younger players who are available that teams care about.

[heyvik]

I would love to see butler & Haywood go to Houston. I don't want to see Jamison in Cleveland. but I think Troy Murphy will end up in Cleveland. I love Jamison as a player but he will definately put Cleveland over the top in the East.

[crownsy]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

Again bird, go find me a deal for established NBA players that had nothing attached outside of an expiring deal.

The closest we've ever done is Wally, West, and a pick for ray, and even then, west was a young, talented guard that teams were interested in.

We don't even have a guy as attractive as west, outside MABEY ta since his recent streak has put him back on the map...but i don't want to give up TA, because he's one of the lone bright spots on the bench right now.

[rondohondo]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

Again bird, go find me a deal for established NBA players that had nothing attached outside of an expiring deal.

The closest we've ever done is Wally, West, and a pick for ray, and even then, west was a young, talented guard that teams were interested in.

We don't even have a guy as attractive as west, outside MABEY ta since his recent streak has put him back on the map...but i don't want to give up TA, because he's one of the lone bright spots on the bench right now.

thats probably why they are trying to add a young player like Augustin so they can trade him with Ray and a pick in a 3 team trade?

[Fafnir]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

Again bird, go find me a deal for established NBA players that had nothing attached outside of an expiring deal.

The closest we've ever done is Wally, West, and a pick for ray, and even then, west was a young, talented guard that teams were interested in.

We don't even have a guy as attractive as west, outside MABEY ta since his recent streak has put him back on the map...but i don't want to give up TA, because he's one of the lone bright spots on the bench right now.

The Ray deal and the Gasol trade are the two recent examples. Both had okay prospects and players going to a team for an all-star.

The problem is we don't even have that okay player to send....

[crownsy]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

Again bird, go find me a deal for established NBA players that had nothing attached outside of an expiring deal.

The closest we've ever done is Wally, West, and a pick for ray, and even then, west was a young, talented guard that teams were interested in.

We don't even have a guy as attractive as west, outside MABEY ta since his recent streak has put him back on the map...but i don't want to give up TA, because he's one of the lone bright spots on the bench right now.

The Ray deal and the Gasol trade are the two recent examples. Both had okay prospects and players going to a team for an all-star.

The problem is we don't even have that okay player to send....

Right faf, thats exactly my point. These deals that have ray's contract outgoing for young players are unrealistic.

The gasol deal, contrary to the opinions that the lakers were getting the best deal ever, STILL included a player (marc gasol) who people were quite high on and is proving to be a very interesting prospect.

You need at least a decent prospect to package. We don't have that.

The closest you can argue is baby and TA, but baby isn't exactly proving his play last year was the norm, and now tony is one of the only guys off the bench who look like the give a rats behind, so im reluctant to trade him.

[guava_wrench]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

Again bird, go find me a deal for established NBA players that had nothing attached outside of an expiring deal.

The closest we've ever done is Wally, West, and a pick for ray, and even then, west was a young, talented guard that teams were interested in.

We don't even have a guy as attractive as west, outside MABEY ta since his recent streak has put him back on the map...but i don't want to give up TA, because he's one of the lone bright spots on the bench right now.

What about Marcus Camby to the Clippers?

[rondohondo]

The Wizards want to get something in return.  Houston has a lot more to offer than we do in terms of young talent.

who?  I don't think they would be giving up Landry or Brooks who else do they have. 


From what I hear in DC this to clear space which means Ray could be a nice replacement for TMAC in this deal. 

Again bird, go find me a deal for established NBA players that had nothing attached outside of an expiring deal.

The closest we've ever done is Wally, West, and a pick for ray, and even then, west was a young, talented guard that teams were interested in.

We don't even have a guy as attractive as west, outside MABEY ta since his recent streak has put him back on the map...but i don't want to give up TA, because he's one of the lone bright spots on the bench right now.

What about Marcus Camby to the Clippers?

or Jamal Crawford to Atlanta ?