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Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2010, 08:40:32 AM »

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I'm not surprised Danny stayed away from him, I don't think he'd be the best locker room guy when he's a backup.

When you take a risk with Marbury, I think it's safe to say you can sign Rafer Alston.

It looks like Rafer was really eager to play for us and had no problems with the playoffs series of last year and his slap to Eddie, so he probably wouldn't have caused any chemistry problems.
He caused problems in Orlando and in Houston, why wouldn't he cause them here?

Besides the Marbury signing didn't work did it? I recall several quotes saying that he was a distraction in the locker room a couple of times and Doc had to say something to him.

  Was it Orlando? I thought it was Toronto where they shipped him out of town.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2010, 08:42:04 AM »

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I'm not surprised Danny stayed away from him, I don't think he'd be the best locker room guy when he's a backup.

When you take a risk with Marbury, I think it's safe to say you can sign Rafer Alston.

It looks like Rafer was really eager to play for us and had no problems with the playoffs series of last year and his slap to Eddie, so he probably wouldn't have caused any chemistry problems.

  They didn't really take a risk with Marbury. They brought him in and told him if he stepped at all out of line they were going to cut him.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2010, 09:34:34 AM »

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I just thought of another issue, what if Danny already has a handshake deal to sign and activate Lue if they have an open roster spot?

Possible, but don't we have an open spot right now, from cutting Lester?  I think Lue's really just here because Doc wants to help him start his coaching career.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2010, 09:45:41 AM »

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He could be a perfect backup for PG position.
Unfortunately Danny have not the same idea.
In my opinion Hinrich is not better than him, expecially as a backup.
"Skip to my lou" is aggressive, can defend, and most importan, he can shoot.

Kirk is 10X the player, actually.

Absolutely. When you analyze Hinrich you just can't look at numbers. He does so many little  things that just don't show up in the box score and has a high basketball IQ. I would also expect his shooting % to go up if he ever played with a big man that forces double teams which would give him more open looks.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2010, 09:51:14 AM »

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He could be a perfect backup for PG position.
Unfortunately Danny have not the same idea.
In my opinion Hinrich is not better than him, expecially as a backup.
"Skip to my lou" is aggressive, can defend, and most importan, he can shoot.

Kirk is 10X the player, actually.

Absolutely. When you analyze Hinrich you just can't look at numbers. He does so many little  things that just don't show up in the box score and has a high basketball IQ. I would also expect his shooting % to go up if he ever played with a big man that forces double teams which would give him more open looks.

  We don't really have a big man that forces double teams.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2010, 10:01:05 AM »

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He could be a perfect backup for PG position.
Unfortunately Danny have not the same idea.
In my opinion Hinrich is not better than him, expecially as a backup.
"Skip to my lou" is aggressive, can defend, and most importan, he can shoot.

Kirk is 10X the player, actually.

Absolutely. When you analyze Hinrich you just can't look at numbers. He does so many little  things that just don't show up in the box score and has a high basketball IQ. I would also expect his shooting % to go up if he ever played with a big man that forces double teams which would give him more open looks.

  We don't really have a big man that forces double teams.

Was comparing Hinrich's situation to Alston who has played with Yao & Howard and despite that has shot poorly. Hinrich has never been able to play with a player that commands a double team. We have guys that force double teams which will give Hinrich more open shots than he has ever received.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2010, 10:02:19 AM »

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The idea of the Celtics passing on a willing Rafer Alston makes me a little nauseous.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2010, 10:07:45 AM »

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He was claimed on waivers, correct?  So the Celtics could NOT have picked him up anyway, right?  If so, then I don't see the importance of this thread.  But if I'm in error here, my apologies.  (But even so, I still don't see the need for this thread).  what's bygones is bygones...
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Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2010, 10:12:26 AM »

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He was claimed on waivers, correct?  So the Celtics could NOT have picked him up anyway, right?  If so, then I don't see the importance of this thread.  But if I'm in error here, my apologies.  (But even so, I still don't see the need for this thread).  what's bygones is bygones...

He cleared waivers and then the Heat signed him.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2010, 10:18:58 AM »

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The idea of the Celtics passing on a willing Rafer Alston makes me a little nauseous.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=EYBn2

Rafer has sucked this year, he's sucked for the Nets and sucked for the Heat. Is he a better true backup PG than Eddie, sure. Does he add more to the team though, probably not.

I don't think passing on him should make anyone sick.

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 10:22:56 AM »

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The idea of the Celtics passing on a willing Rafer Alston makes me a little nauseous.

I'm feeling bright eyed and bushy tailed over it. 

We are sort of like the yin/yang of Skip to my Lou.
Little Fockers 1.5/10
Gulliver's Travels 1/10
Grown Ups -20/10
Tron Legacy 6.5/10

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2010, 10:25:33 AM »

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He could be a perfect backup for PG position.
Unfortunately Danny have not the same idea.
In my opinion Hinrich is not better than him, expecially as a backup.
"Skip to my lou" is aggressive, can defend, and most importan, he can shoot.

Kirk is 10X the player, actually.

Absolutely. When you analyze Hinrich you just can't look at numbers. He does so many little  things that just don't show up in the box score and has a high basketball IQ. I would also expect his shooting % to go up if he ever played with a big man that forces double teams which would give him more open looks.

That and a PG that prefers to pass the ball and has outstanding court vision. 
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Gulliver's Travels 1/10
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Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2010, 11:24:36 AM »

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He was claimed on waivers, correct?  So the Celtics could NOT have picked him up anyway, right?  If so, then I don't see the importance of this thread.  But if I'm in error here, my apologies.  (But even so, I still don't see the need for this thread).  what's bygones is bygones...

He cleared waivers and then the Heat signed him.

thanks for the clarification...my bad.  i got confused between "claimed" and "cleared"...thanks!  TP (which is your first)!
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Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2010, 11:47:53 AM »

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Skip definitely had something to offer this team.  I'm not comfortable with rondo playing 40minutes a game no matter how young he is.  If we had a shot at him with our infastructure of players---you take him. If you can take sam cassell, marbury...make it happen, skip is not the antichrist here.  much as a like quisy, I dont' like him running the point.  <this is assuming we had a shot at skip ofcourse>

Re: Rafer Alston wanted to play for the Celtics
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2010, 11:56:13 AM »

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Besides the House slap he also had an incident with Rondo (apologies if it was already mentioned). Perhaps those two incidents had an impact.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4rkwu_rajan-rondo-vs-rafer-alston-shoving_sport