Tony Allen making a difference

[Tr1boy]

So much so that i don't mind at this point trading Ray Allen or even Paul Pierce so that T Allen can get more playing time , especially in the 4th quarter. (call me crazy, but i like winning)

Tony Allen's stats weren't that great tonight but if you actually watched the game he shut down Dwayne Wade like barely any other players in the league could.

Imagine if Pierce was in tonight and ray allen had to cover wade most of the night? (Ray allen probably tire out and miss shots) Maybe we don't win is the outcome

T Allen has made all the difference in the world the past few games, especially with his energy and defense. (can play shutdown defense against the best sg/sf in the league, don't forget Kobe said T. Allen is probably one of the few players that can guard him the league)

The guy needs to play a proper set of time or for some reason with occasional playing time he tends to make bonehead mistakes.

I've been all pro for trading Ray Allen the past few days (i'd do a trade for hinrich and thomas still in a heartbeat) but maybe just maybe he is not the "problem" player and that it could be paul pierce. The guy is in mediocre shape, has a ton of turnover especially in clutch (he is not the same mr 4th quarter) and has a huge salary coming up next year.

I rather trade him now and get more back than trading for Allen and try to convince allen to stay a couple of more years at 9 mill per season.

I really like the lineup of

Perk/Wallace
KG
T Allen
R Allen
Rondo

Theres a good balance between scoring capabilities and now energy and defense with T Allen playing.

[Fafnir]

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

[jr_3421]

I do agree I love TA's defense but I'm not convinced he's ready for big minutes. My problem with TA is that he's great when he plays within himself but many times either stupid plays by trying make something happen or stupider unforced turnovers. I like what he did tonight on offense tonight. Got putbacks and an occasional postup. The thing is I'm not sure if tony will stick to this. Right now ill have him stick to the bench

On another note we had a Bill Walker sighting!!!!

[GreenFaith1819]

That Block Against Kobe on Sunday proved to me that Tony Allen can defend Anyone (Well...maybe not Lebron, but who can?)

LA may have won the game, but TA slowed Kobe down just a tad..

And the man tossed in a few long range J's, too. He did not have a good offensive game tonight, but hey his points helped us win.

[ejk3489]

Wait, you would seriously trade Paul Pierce so Tony Allen can have more playing time?

That will never happen...ever.

[PLamb]

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

What he said

[vinnie]

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

I was at the game and I remember Ray covering Wade a lot. Tony also defended him, but Ray spent a lot of time on Wade. That said, Tony made the key play in the game with that steal in the fourth. Doc nearly blew it by waiting too long to put TA back in at the end of the game. I am not going to go overboard on TA, but he is playing the best basketball of his career.

[PLamb]

While I think Tony did a respectable job on Wade it was fairly obvious Tony was having trouble with the outside screens and allowing Wade just that little bit of space to get by and do damage

That said, Tony played well and has been a revelation this year with his play

Come on Celticsblog, you all know, almost to a man, that we didn't expect this from Tony

Give him his proper respect, he has been a godsend given the fact that Pierce and Daniels have been banged up and Eddie on vacation most of the year

[guava_wrench]

I do agree I love TA's defense but I'm not convinced he's ready for big minutes. My problem with TA is that he's great when he plays within himself but many times either stupid plays by trying make something happen or stupider unforced turnovers. I like what he did tonight on offense tonight. Got putbacks and an occasional postup. The thing is I'm not sure if tony will stick to this. Right now ill have him stick to the bench

On another note we had a Bill Walker sighting!!!!

Sheed was the gross offender against Miami though for stupid unforced turnovers. Two ridiculously bad passes. One was a fancy pass to no one, the other a pointless pass trying to thread the need to get the ball to Scal under the rim. Even if the pass reached Scal, I have no idea what Scal would have done with it.

[Bahku]

While I think Tony did a respectable job on Wade it was fairly obvious Tony was having trouble with the outside screens and allowing Wade just that little bit of space to get by and do damage

That said, Tony played well and has been a revelation this year with his play

Come on Celticsblog, you all know, almost to a man, that we didn't expect this from Tony

Give him his proper respect, he has been a godsend given the fact that Pierce and Daniels have been banged up and Eddie on vacation most of the year

I've got to agree with PLamb here (TP) ... much as I love to bash TA and as eager as I was to get rid of him, his performance of late has been well-needed and the timing couldn't be better. I have NEVER questioned his abilities ... the guy is amazing when it comes to athleticism, but I'll continue to cross my fingers whenever he's on the floor, and say a prayer that he keeps his nose clean while off it. Great job, Tony, and I hope for all our sakes that it continues ... beyond that I'll remain reticent, for now.

[BASS_THUMPER]

seems many of u jus started watchin tony allen play for the first time. before his injuries and legal problems he was and still is a solid playa.

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

What he said

last time wade got 44pts..

[Bahku]

seems many of u jus started watchin tony allen play for the first time. before his injuries and legal problems he was and still is a solid playa.

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

What he said

last time wade got 44pts..

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, Bass (TP) ... and the last 10 points that he scored was toward the end of the game, when the Celts had it pretty much under control, and had let up on the interior defense a bit. TA did a good job at both ends tonight, and keeping Wade to 30 without The Truth on the floor is an acceptable number. Time to give Tony some props ... he's earned them, folks ... maybe he's turning his life around for good.

[dlpin]

seems many of u jus started watchin tony allen play for the first time. before his injuries and legal problems he was and still is a solid playa.

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

What he said

last time wade got 44pts..

While going from 44 to 30 is certainly an improvement on D, it can hardly be called "shutting someone down," which is Fafnir's point: he certainly played well, but there is a huge difference between playing good D on wade and shutting him down.

[Fafnir]

seems many of u jus started watchin tony allen play for the first time. before his injuries and legal problems he was and still is a solid playa.

Tony played well but the idea that he shut Wade down is laughable.

Wade had 30 pt on 11-16 FG 2-4 3PT 6-8 FT with 13 Ast 6 TO

Much of that was while Tony guarded him.

What he said

last time wade got 44pts..

That was with an OT period, and Tony played 19 minutes that night as well. He actually guarded Wade just as much that night. Tony was our primary backup 2 that night rather than starting SF.

(Tony had a whopping -14 on +/-)

[CoachBo]

Trade Pierce because of Tony Allen?