Tony Allen making a difference

[makaveli]

Trade Pierce because of Tony Allen?

 

No way!!!
Paul is his best friend, he couldn't manage without him

[Bankshot]

So much so that i don't mind at this point trading Ray Allen or even Paul Pierce so that T Allen can get more playing time , especially in the 4th quarter. (call me crazy, but i like winning)

Tony Allen's stats weren't that great tonight but if you actually watched the game he shut down Dwayne Wade like barely any other players in the league could.

Imagine if Pierce was in tonight and ray allen had to cover wade most of the night? (Ray allen probably tire out and miss shots) Maybe we don't win is the outcome

T Allen has made all the difference in the world the past few games, especially with his energy and defense. (can play shutdown defense against the best sg/sf in the league, don't forget Kobe said T. Allen is probably one of the few players that can guard him the league)

The guy needs to play a proper set of time or for some reason with occasional playing time he tends to make bonehead mistakes.

I've been all pro for trading Ray Allen the past few days (i'd do a trade for hinrich and thomas still in a heartbeat) but maybe just maybe he is not the "problem" player and that it could be paul pierce. The guy is in mediocre shape, has a ton of turnover especially in clutch (he is not the same mr 4th quarter) and has a huge salary coming up next year.

I rather trade him now and get more back than trading for Allen and try to convince allen to stay a couple of more years at 9 mill per season.

I really like the lineup of

Perk/Wallace
KG
T Allen
R Allen
Rondo

Theres a good balance between scoring capabilities and now energy and defense with T Allen playing.

You made me spit my drink out when I read this.

[BballTim]

So much so that i don't mind at this point trading Ray Allen or even Paul Pierce so that T Allen can get more playing time , especially in the 4th quarter. (call me crazy, but i like winning)

  Even if you like TA, are you so completely sold that he won't pick up an injury before the season ends that you'd rest your championship hopes on it?

[Kuberski33]

It seems like every game they've won in 10, Tony Allen has made a big defensive play down the stretch.  Doc did a great job of subbing late last night and TA delivered.  His problem, unfortunately, is that every single time in his career that he's gotten some momentum going, he's ended up getting hurt. 

I hate to say it, but they need him right now.  His defense is making the C's a better team.

[PLamb]

While I think Tony did a respectable job on Wade it was fairly obvious Tony was having trouble with the outside screens and allowing Wade just that little bit of space to get by and do damage

That said, Tony played well and has been a revelation this year with his play

Come on Celticsblog, you all know, almost to a man, that we didn't expect this from Tony

Give him his proper respect, he has been a godsend given the fact that Pierce and Daniels have been banged up and Eddie on vacation most of the year

I've got to agree with PLamb here (TP) ... much as I love to bash TA and as eager as I was to get rid of him, his performance of late has been well-needed and the timing couldn't be better. I have NEVER questioned his abilities ... the guy is amazing when it comes to athleticism, but I'll continue to cross my fingers whenever he's on the floor, and say a prayer that he keeps his nose clean while off it. Great job, Tony, and I hope for all our sakes that it continues ... beyond that I'll remain reticent, for now.

Thank you sir

And I agree as well with saying there was never any questioning his abilities or for that matter his effort

Those have always been there

It's that little thing rolling around inside Tony's head that has always been the problem and I think he is playing much smarter, more controlled, more self contained ball and playing within his game and, I know its cliche, but he is letting the game come to him and picking out his spots and they have been the right spots

Hitting the giveth one button back for bringing up that point, it never has ever been his abilities that have been in question with Tony, ever, he always had that

[Birdbrain]

Tony is making a difference but, he is what he is.  A good wing on the ball defender.  He's liability on offense unless he can get to rim but, as long as he stay within his role he's nice piece of the bench.  But as far as a replacement for Paul... wait for it.... no.

[BballTim]

Tony is making a difference but, he is what he is.  A good wing on the ball defender.  He's liability on offense unless he can get to rim but, as long as he stay within his role he's nice piece of the bench.  But as far as a replacement for Paul... wait for it.... no.

  On the other hand someone who can get to the rim is a boon to the second unit. None of the other guys can create their own shot save the few minutes of Sheed in the post we see.

[moiso]

I loved how he played last night.  His impact went beyond the meager stat line.  I like that he crashed the boards and didn't take any outside shots, as well as his defense.  But the aspect I like best is that his energy level is awesome.  It's nice to have some young, fresh athletic legs out there creating havoc.

[More Banners]

Tony is NOT a starter on a good team.  I was expecting a long night after he turned it over ON THE FIRST PLAY!!!  I think he could put up some crazy numbers on a mediocre team, and can perhaps be a good backup on a good one in modest minutes, mostly in the first half, but let's not get crazy.

As far as him defending Wade, he played him for the drive on every possession, making it very, very easy for Wade to create plenty of space for mid-range jumpers (12 feet) all night.  On the final play, he still played Wade for the drive, and got beat at that, but Perk held up Wade long enough for Tony to reach back into the play and get the ball, but Wade had already passed him.  That was team defense, not TA's defense.  He is an above average man-up defender, but let's not get carried away.

[jpd985]

So much so that i don't mind at this point trading Ray Allen or even Paul Pierce so that T Allen can get more playing time , especially in the 4th quarter. (call me crazy, but i like winning)

Tony Allen's stats weren't that great tonight but if you actually watched the game he shut down Dwayne Wade like barely any other players in the league could.

Imagine if Pierce was in tonight and ray allen had to cover wade most of the night? (Ray allen probably tire out and miss shots) Maybe we don't win is the outcome

T Allen has made all the difference in the world the past few games, especially with his energy and defense. (can play shutdown defense against the best sg/sf in the league, don't forget Kobe said T. Allen is probably one of the few players that can guard him the league)

The guy needs to play a proper set of time or for some reason with occasional playing time he tends to make bonehead mistakes.

I've been all pro for trading Ray Allen the past few days (i'd do a trade for hinrich and thomas still in a heartbeat) but maybe just maybe he is not the "problem" player and that it could be paul pierce. The guy is in mediocre shape, has a ton of turnover especially in clutch (he is not the same mr 4th quarter) and has a huge salary coming up next year.

I rather trade him now and get more back than trading for Allen and try to convince allen to stay a couple of more years at 9 mill per season.

I really like the lineup of

Perk/Wallace
KG
T Allen
R Allen
Rondo

Theres a good balance between scoring capabilities and now energy and defense with T Allen playing.

You made me spit my drink out when I read this.

I wouldn't complain with starting TA and having Ray come off of the bench. I think the trades however, are going a little too far.

[connerhenry43]

TA is playing well, and i am very happy about that. i think he can and will keep it up (if he stays here).

however, i would not keep or trade ray allen based on anything TA is doing right now. he has been too up and down to base anything long term on anything he has done this season.

he played DWade very well last night (even though wade had 30, remember, he is a great player), and the steal at the end helped seal the game. i was most surprised that he hit both Ft's!

[Fafnir]

I loved how he played last night.  His impact went beyond the meager stat line.  I like that he crashed the boards and didn't take any outside shots, as well as his defense.  But the aspect I like best is that his energy level is awesome.  It's nice to have some young, fresh athletic legs out there creating havoc.

The problem with Tony is that he's offensive one-dimensional, playing him at the 2 and Rondo at the 1 casuses issues.

[Birdbrain]

Tony is making a difference but, he is what he is.  A good wing on the ball defender.  He's liability on offense unless he can get to rim but, as long as he stay within his role he's nice piece of the bench.  But as far as a replacement for Paul... wait for it.... no.

  On the other hand someone who can get to the rim is a boon to the second unit. None of the other guys can create their own shot save the few minutes of Sheed in the post we see.

Agreed, like I mentioned in my post.

[BballTim]

Tony is NOT a starter on a good team. 

  Not saying I want Tony starting, but there were tons of posts saying the same thing about Rondo and Perk 2-3 years ago.

[dlpin]

Tony is NOT a starter on a good team. 

  Not saying I want Tony starting, but there were tons of posts saying the same thing about Rondo and Perk 2-3 years ago.

2-3 years ago Rondo was 20-21 years old, Perkins was 22-23 years old. Tony Allen right now is 28. The idea that he will develop into a starter now just like Rondo and Perkins have over the past few years has no basis on reality.