Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?

[indeedproceed]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Like: Kobe+Gasol. Automatically makes you a 2nd level playoff team, before you even make a pick

Like: Turkoglu using his playmaking skills in the forward friendly triangle

Like: Moon, Bogan as defenders off the bench.

Like: Gortat. He's not Bynum but he's a good stop gap...and no one really knows what he can do with good minutes, but things look positive.

Like: Reggie Evans off the bench. He'll play harder for a winner, and he already plays hard.

Don't like: Foye, Reddick, or any other point option (Bogans maybe?) off the bench. Seems like you really have no good option here.

Don't like: Needing Hansbrough as a rotation level player off the bench right now. Maybe in a year he could do that for a probable championship contender, but now...he's been hurt, and he's still a rookie. We needed Leon Powe to win a chip, not Glen Davis.

Don't like: Boone as your default center if Gortat doesn't work out. He's not strong enough for centers, and his offensive game is all about being opportunistic, not being skilled.

[PLamb]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Very good team

One of the league's best

Not quite as good as the current Lakers but given that you had to give up all but two players of the World Champions, very well done from where you were drafting

[celticsclay]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Like: Kobe+Gasol. Automatically makes you a 2nd level playoff team, before you even make a pick

Like: Turkoglu using his playmaking skills in the forward friendly triangle

Like: Moon, Bogan as defenders off the bench.

Like: Gortat. He's not Bynum but he's a good stop gap...and no one really knows what he can do with good minutes, but things look positive.

Like: Reggie Evans off the bench. He'll play harder for a winner, and he already plays hard.

Don't like: Foye, Reddick, or any other point option (Bogans maybe?) off the bench. Seems like you really have no good option here.

Don't like: Needing Hansbrough as a rotation level player off the bench right now. Maybe in a year he could do that for a probable championship contender, but now...he's been hurt, and he's still a rookie. We needed Leon Powe to win a chip, not Glen Davis.

Don't like: Boone as your default center if Gortat doesn't work out. He's not strong enough for centers, and his offensive game is all about being opportunistic, not being skilled.

Your team is offensively going to be good with your three headed monster. However, I am trying to think of a team that won a title with a center roation as bad as gortat, boone (i think boone shouldv'e gone undrafted). The only teams that come to mind was the bulls teams of the nineties with luke longly and an aincent bill cartwright..

[wdleehi]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Like: Kobe+Gasol. Automatically makes you a 2nd level playoff team, before you even make a pick

Like: Turkoglu using his playmaking skills in the forward friendly triangle

Like: Moon, Bogan as defenders off the bench.

Like: Gortat. He's not Bynum but he's a good stop gap...and no one really knows what he can do with good minutes, but things look positive.

Like: Reggie Evans off the bench. He'll play harder for a winner, and he already plays hard.

Don't like: Foye, Reddick, or any other point option (Bogans maybe?) off the bench. Seems like you really have no good option here.

Don't like: Needing Hansbrough as a rotation level player off the bench right now. Maybe in a year he could do that for a probable championship contender, but now...he's been hurt, and he's still a rookie. We needed Leon Powe to win a chip, not Glen Davis.

Don't like: Boone as your default center if Gortat doesn't work out. He's not strong enough for centers, and his offensive game is all about being opportunistic, not being skilled.

Reddick works as a triangle PG.  He can hit the three.  His defense is improving. 


Foye is a scorer off the bench.

Let see what Boone does on a real team with a real coach instead of one of the most underachieving teams of all time. 

[wdleehi]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Like: Kobe+Gasol. Automatically makes you a 2nd level playoff team, before you even make a pick

Like: Turkoglu using his playmaking skills in the forward friendly triangle

Like: Moon, Bogan as defenders off the bench.

Like: Gortat. He's not Bynum but he's a good stop gap...and no one really knows what he can do with good minutes, but things look positive.

Like: Reggie Evans off the bench. He'll play harder for a winner, and he already plays hard.

Don't like: Foye, Reddick, or any other point option (Bogans maybe?) off the bench. Seems like you really have no good option here.

Don't like: Needing Hansbrough as a rotation level player off the bench right now. Maybe in a year he could do that for a probable championship contender, but now...he's been hurt, and he's still a rookie. We needed Leon Powe to win a chip, not Glen Davis.

Don't like: Boone as your default center if Gortat doesn't work out. He's not strong enough for centers, and his offensive game is all about being opportunistic, not being skilled.

Your team is offensively going to be good with your three headed monster. However, I am trying to think of a team that won a title with a center roation as bad as gortat, boone (i think boone shouldv'e gone undrafted). The only teams that come to mind was the bulls teams of the nineties with luke longly and an aincent bill cartwright..

You mean a triangle offense team that was coached by Phil Jackson?

[celticsclay]

sorry Kobe ain't MJ. I'll argue that one to the grave....

[Slugger]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Like: Kobe+Gasol. Automatically makes you a 2nd level playoff team, before you even make a pick

Like: Turkoglu using his playmaking skills in the forward friendly triangle

Like: Moon, Bogan as defenders off the bench.

Like: Gortat. He's not Bynum but he's a good stop gap...and no one really knows what he can do with good minutes, but things look positive.

Like: Reggie Evans off the bench. He'll play harder for a winner, and he already plays hard.

Don't like: Foye, Reddick, or any other point option (Bogans maybe?) off the bench. Seems like you really have no good option here.

Don't like: Needing Hansbrough as a rotation level player off the bench right now. Maybe in a year he could do that for a probable championship contender, but now...he's been hurt, and he's still a rookie. We needed Leon Powe to win a chip, not Glen Davis.

Don't like: Boone as your default center if Gortat doesn't work out. He's not strong enough for centers, and his offensive game is all about being opportunistic, not being skilled.

Your team is offensively going to be good with your three headed monster. However, I am trying to think of a team that won a title with a center roation as bad as gortat, boone (i think boone shouldv'e gone undrafted). The only teams that come to mind was the bulls teams of the nineties with luke longly and an aincent bill cartwright..

You mean a triangle offense team that was coached by Phil Jackson?

If only you had Phil Jax as your coach.....hang on a minute...

Seriously though, love the team - and not just because you had kobe or Pau.  Favourites by a large margin

[riah32]

Those dirty Swine of LA

PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat






Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

PF  Reggie Evans

Like: Kobe+Gasol. Automatically makes you a 2nd level playoff team, before you even make a pick

Like: Turkoglu using his playmaking skills in the forward friendly triangle

Like: Moon, Bogan as defenders off the bench.

Like: Gortat. He's not Bynum but he's a good stop gap...and no one really knows what he can do with good minutes, but things look positive.

Like: Reggie Evans off the bench. He'll play harder for a winner, and he already plays hard.

Don't like: Foye, Reddick, or any other point option (Bogans maybe?) off the bench. Seems like you really have no good option here.

Don't like: Needing Hansbrough as a rotation level player off the bench right now. Maybe in a year he could do that for a probable championship contender, but now...he's been hurt, and he's still a rookie. We needed Leon Powe to win a chip, not Glen Davis.

Don't like: Boone as your default center if Gortat doesn't work out. He's not strong enough for centers, and his offensive game is all about being opportunistic, not being skilled

Your team is offensively going to be good with your three headed monster. However, I am trying to think of a team that won a title with a center roation as bad as gortat, boone (i think boone shouldv'e gone undrafted). The only teams that come to mind was the bulls teams of the nineties with luke longly and an aincent bill cartwright..

You mean a triangle offense team that was coached by Phil Jackson?

If only you had Phil Jax as your coach.....hang on a minute...

Seriously though, love the team - and not just because you had kobe or Pau.  Favourites by a large margin

I don't think there favorites just for the fact reddick is you starting point guard and your centers are a question mark. Hedo and Kobe both need the ball in there hands so how is that going to work?

[indeedproceed]

I don't think there favorites just for the fact reddick is you starting point guard and your centers are a question mark. Hedo and Kobe both need the ball in there hands so how is that going to work?

I think in this situation that's not a problem. If he was running a traditional offensive set than it might be, but much like Pippen on the mid-90's Bulls Hedo would play as much role of facilitator as he would spot up shooter.

The knock on Hedo is that he cannot manage to involve himself in the game if he's not an active part of the offense. That's what makes him a special player. In Phil Jackson's system, he'll get the touches he would need to be effective.

[wdleehi]

I don't think there favorites just for the fact reddick is you starting point guard and your centers are a question mark. Hedo and Kobe both need the ball in there hands so how is that going to work?

I think in this situation that's not a problem. If he was running a traditional offensive set than it might be, but much like Pippen on the mid-90's Bulls Hedo would play as much role of facilitator as he would spot up shooter.

The knock on Hedo is that he cannot manage to involve himself in the game if he's not an active part of the offense. That's what makes him a special player. In Phil Jackson's system, he'll get the touches he would need to be effective.

Yep.


Remember the Bulls had three players that needed the ball in their hands.  Jordon, Pippen and Kukoc. 

And Phil Jackson has shown a knack for getting the best out of his player, so I expect to see the Gortat when he has started for Howard and the Boone from the previous seasons. 

And is Reddick that far off of the Steve Kerrs and John Paxsons?  I mean, he is bigger.

[indeedproceed]

I don't think there favorites just for the fact reddick is you starting point guard and your centers are a question mark. Hedo and Kobe both need the ball in there hands so how is that going to work?

I think in this situation that's not a problem. If he was running a traditional offensive set than it might be, but much like Pippen on the mid-90's Bulls Hedo would play as much role of facilitator as he would spot up shooter.

The knock on Hedo is that he cannot manage to involve himself in the game if he's not an active part of the offense. That's what makes him a special player. In Phil Jackson's system, he'll get the touches he would need to be effective.

Yep.


Remember the Bulls had three players that needed the ball in their hands.  Jordon, Pippen and Kukoc. 

And Phil Jackson has shown a knack for getting the best out of his player, so I expect to see the Gortat when he has started for Howard and the Boone from the previous seasons. 

And is Reddick that far off of the Steve Kerrs and John Paxsons?  I mean, he is bigger.

The height of a man's hair and the volume of his hair gel is not the true measure of a man, kind sir.



I found this really helpful in explaining the triangle offense  when i decided I didn't really know what it was.

http://www.coachawinningteam.com/basketball_play_triangle/

[wdleehi]

I don't think there favorites just for the fact reddick is you starting point guard and your centers are a question mark. Hedo and Kobe both need the ball in there hands so how is that going to work?

I think in this situation that's not a problem. If he was running a traditional offensive set than it might be, but much like Pippen on the mid-90's Bulls Hedo would play as much role of facilitator as he would spot up shooter.

The knock on Hedo is that he cannot manage to involve himself in the game if he's not an active part of the offense. That's what makes him a special player. In Phil Jackson's system, he'll get the touches he would need to be effective.

Yep.


Remember the Bulls had three players that needed the ball in their hands.  Jordon, Pippen and Kukoc. 

And Phil Jackson has shown a knack for getting the best out of his player, so I expect to see the Gortat when he has started for Howard and the Boone from the previous seasons. 

And is Reddick that far off of the Steve Kerrs and John Paxsons?  I mean, he is bigger.

The height of a man's hair and the volume of his hair gel is not the true measure of a man, kind sir.



I found this really helpful in explaining the triangle offense  when i decided I didn't really know what it was.

http://www.coachawinningteam.com/basketball_play_triangle/

If the hair is higher, the easier it is to tickle the offensive player's nose.   

[Lucky17]

Don't have much problem with the Pigs' starting five. Offensively, they'll be fine, with Bryant and Gasol the focal points. Defensively, a notch below the real Pigs, um, Lakers.

The bench is a problem, I think. A few too many one-dimensional role players. Aside from Foye, no one can create their own shots. Bogans and Moon are Bruce Bowen types: primarily defensive, with an occasional 3 pointer. Reggie Evans and Josh Boone can't score in an empty gym; both are abysmal free-throw shooters as well. All the scoring from the bench must come from Foye (a gunner, he'll love jacking shots) and the rookie Hansbrough.

The starting five (six, counting Foye) will have to score 80-85 points a night, and play lock-down defense. Tall order.

[PLamb]

I don't think there favorites just for the fact reddick is you starting point guard and your centers are a question mark. Hedo and Kobe both need the ball in there hands so how is that going to work?

I think in this situation that's not a problem. If he was running a traditional offensive set than it might be, but much like Pippen on the mid-90's Bulls Hedo would play as much role of facilitator as he would spot up shooter.

The knock on Hedo is that he cannot manage to involve himself in the game if he's not an active part of the offense. That's what makes him a special player. In Phil Jackson's system, he'll get the touches he would need to be effective.

I agree with this

I also agree that with Reddick's skill set, he's an almost perfect Triangle offense PG

[Atzar]

Alright, so my team is more or less complete - any trades from here on in will likely only involve bench pieces.

PG: Rafer Alston / Daniel Gibson
SG: James Harden / Marquis Daniels
SF: Rudy Gay / Jarvis Hayes
PF: Blake Griffin / Joe Smith
C:  Joakim Noah / Marreese Speights / Theo Ratliff

I also own the rights to Ricky Rubio, who will step in as the starting PG when he enters the league.

Thoughts?