Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?

[wdleehi]

P.S.  That's a Pig, not a pink bunny. 

[Edgar]

Ah, yes.  This is starting to feel more like the CB drafts that I know.



Simmer down, guys.  It's only a game, and one without winners or losers.

other than me

and I dont say where end i will be 

[Roy Hobbs]

Atzar, go make your pick in the other thread.

[celticsclay]

What's your point

All I am saying is that players should be judged as players not athletes

Would you rather have a team of 12 Tony Allens or 12 Shane Battiers

Allen is unquestionably the better athlete relative to his position, you want a team of 12 Tony's or 12 Shanes

How about a team of 12 Glen Davis's or 12 Sean Williams

None of them.  I want to keep my GM job.  



You want us to compare your team to Larry Bird.  


But you are lead by a guy that was a joke the last time he was in NY (last season)  


You do not have the young talent the current Knick's team has.

I don't even know if you have the cap space next year the current Knicks have.  

And we are suppose to buy this team as a playoff team?

Who said to compare my team to Larry Bird

I was using that analogy as a way to compare athletes versus players

Is that really what you got out of that

That's an absurd thing to get out of what I said


The current Knicks have young talent?
Who?
Lee? He's gone they will be renouncing him to sign free agents
Gallinari? He's 6'11" and so soft he has to play SG and he can't spell defense never mind play it
Chandler? He's okay
Hill? Please
Douglas? Lester Hudson has a better NBA future
Landry? You mean JR Giddens Jr

And who cares about cap flexibility or the future

This is a team for right now to compare in a hypothetical situation to see if you could build a team better than the team that is currently in place

Do I want you to believe that this team could win enough games to make the playoffs versus other teams being put together? I could care less

It's not a competition

I like my team

I think they could win 50 games

And I think they could make the playoffs in this format

If you are now saying you dont even care what other people think of our teams or how they would do versus the other teams in this league, why are you one of the more predominant posters on a 29 page thread debating whether your team is better and how they would do...?

I care what other posters think of my team, that was the whole point of this. It has been fun and I have kind of learned a very small piece of the kinds od decisions you gotta decide when putting an nba team together. I have by no means done a great job with my team. I initially just thought about getting the best valued player for my team rather then focusing on the fit and the time and point my team was at. Some posters pointed this out to me and I have made a few trades. Im still looking to do a few more. However, I am also not posting that my team is going to win 60 games. I would like to believe they are a contender because they have 4 very solid nba starters in Dalembert, Parker, Marion and Duncan that seem to fit. I also have some interesting pieces to get a better fit at sg. We will see how this goes. However, please don't take it personally if you tout your team strongly and someone disagrees....

[Edgar]

thank god we dont have a debate place here

Dwight Howard Sux and Rashard Lewis is overrated. Bring it on!

I'll only partake in a debate competition thread if I am allowed to call my opponent  poop related terms.

Rashard Lewis killed the celtics twice this year
and Dwight Howard beats gerald green.....


please dont make me start

and i hate to be one of the last post in a page

[Truck Lewis]

P.S.  That's a Pig, not a pink bunny. 

lol sorry WD..i thought it was a pink bunny too

[wdleehi]

P.S.  That's a Pig, not a pink bunny. 

lol sorry WD..i thought it was a pink bunny too

This is making my wife very angry.  She is the one that gave me that paper Pig.   

[PLamb]

What's your point

All I am saying is that players should be judged as players not athletes

Would you rather have a team of 12 Tony Allens or 12 Shane Battiers

Allen is unquestionably the better athlete relative to his position, you want a team of 12 Tony's or 12 Shanes

How about a team of 12 Glen Davis's or 12 Sean Williams

None of them.  I want to keep my GM job.  



You want us to compare your team to Larry Bird.  


But you are lead by a guy that was a joke the last time he was in NY (last season)  


You do not have the young talent the current Knick's team has.

I don't even know if you have the cap space next year the current Knicks have.  

And we are suppose to buy this team as a playoff team?

Who said to compare my team to Larry Bird

I was using that analogy as a way to compare athletes versus players

Is that really what you got out of that

That's an absurd thing to get out of what I said


The current Knicks have young talent?
Who?
Lee? He's gone they will be renouncing him to sign free agents
Gallinari? He's 6'11" and so soft he has to play SG and he can't spell defense never mind play it
Chandler? He's okay
Hill? Please
Douglas? Lester Hudson has a better NBA future
Landry? You mean JR Giddens Jr

And who cares about cap flexibility or the future

This is a team for right now to compare in a hypothetical situation to see if you could build a team better than the team that is currently in place

Do I want you to believe that this team could win enough games to make the playoffs versus other teams being put together? I could care less

It's not a competition

I like my team

I think they could win 50 games

And I think they could make the playoffs in this format

And I would take the Knicsk team as it is now.  You know, the Knicks team that was so happy to rid themselves of Randolph.  The Knicks team positioning itself to add FA.  

Your Knick team looks more of the Knicks of old.  Old, injury prone and knuckleheaded.  Sure, there are some nice young players, but they are just waiting to escape.  

Whatever

One man's opinion and an opinion I don't think is that great anyway

Then why respond so much?

Don't ask for opinions and expect them all to gush over what you did.

I'm not asking for your opinion or anyone else's other than  Mr. Who's

He gave his opinion and I thanked him

You were the one to interject yourself

You don't like my team, fine, but I never asked for your opinion

Not once

As I said when this whole thing first started, this is not a competition and I don't care what anyone thinks of this team

What matters is what I think and I think they're pretty good

But you sir, every time my team has been mentioned seem to have gone out of your way to be critical of my team so this time I defended it

When I want your opinion I'll ask for it like I asked for Mr Who's until then maybe it's best if you keep your opinion about your team to yourself

[wdleehi]

What's your point

All I am saying is that players should be judged as players not athletes

Would you rather have a team of 12 Tony Allens or 12 Shane Battiers

Allen is unquestionably the better athlete relative to his position, you want a team of 12 Tony's or 12 Shanes

How about a team of 12 Glen Davis's or 12 Sean Williams

None of them.  I want to keep my GM job.  



You want us to compare your team to Larry Bird.  


But you are lead by a guy that was a joke the last time he was in NY (last season)  


You do not have the young talent the current Knick's team has.

I don't even know if you have the cap space next year the current Knicks have.  

And we are suppose to buy this team as a playoff team?

Who said to compare my team to Larry Bird

I was using that analogy as a way to compare athletes versus players

Is that really what you got out of that

That's an absurd thing to get out of what I said


The current Knicks have young talent?
Who?
Lee? He's gone they will be renouncing him to sign free agents
Gallinari? He's 6'11" and so soft he has to play SG and he can't spell defense never mind play it
Chandler? He's okay
Hill? Please
Douglas? Lester Hudson has a better NBA future
Landry? You mean JR Giddens Jr

And who cares about cap flexibility or the future

This is a team for right now to compare in a hypothetical situation to see if you could build a team better than the team that is currently in place

Do I want you to believe that this team could win enough games to make the playoffs versus other teams being put together? I could care less

It's not a competition

I like my team

I think they could win 50 games

And I think they could make the playoffs in this format

And I would take the Knicsk team as it is now.  You know, the Knicks team that was so happy to rid themselves of Randolph.  The Knicks team positioning itself to add FA.  

Your Knick team looks more of the Knicks of old.  Old, injury prone and knuckleheaded.  Sure, there are some nice young players, but they are just waiting to escape.  

Whatever

One man's opinion and an opinion I don't think is that great anyway

Then why respond so much?

Don't ask for opinions and expect them all to gush over what you did.

I'm not asking for your opinion or anyone else's other than  Mr. Who's

He gave his opinion and I thanked him

You were the one to interject yourself

You don't like my team, fine, but I never asked for your opinion

Not once

As I said when this whole thing first started, this is not a competition and I don't care what anyone thinks of this team

What matters is what I think and I think they're pretty good

But you sir, every time my team has been mentioned seem to have gone out of your way to be critical of my team so this time I defended it

When I want your opinion I'll ask for it like I asked for Mr Who's until then maybe it's best if you keep your opinion about your team to yourself

Then send him a PM instead of putting it in a discussion thread about teams. 


Until then, myself and anyone else on this blog will be free to respond to any post we decide.

[KCattheStripe]

Team                 of                                       the                                                                       Future!!!!!!









I welcome all critiques and promise to take them personally.

[Edgar]

I welcome all critiques and promise to take them personally.

So much effort for such bad team
 

nice pic

[celticsclay]

KCattheStripe do you want input from specific posters?

[PLamb]

What's your point

All I am saying is that players should be judged as players not athletes

Would you rather have a team of 12 Tony Allens or 12 Shane Battiers

Allen is unquestionably the better athlete relative to his position, you want a team of 12 Tony's or 12 Shanes

How about a team of 12 Glen Davis's or 12 Sean Williams

None of them.  I want to keep my GM job.  



You want us to compare your team to Larry Bird.  


But you are lead by a guy that was a joke the last time he was in NY (last season)  


You do not have the young talent the current Knick's team has.

I don't even know if you have the cap space next year the current Knicks have.  

And we are suppose to buy this team as a playoff team?

Who said to compare my team to Larry Bird

I was using that analogy as a way to compare athletes versus players

Is that really what you got out of that

That's an absurd thing to get out of what I said


The current Knicks have young talent?
Who?
Lee? He's gone they will be renouncing him to sign free agents
Gallinari? He's 6'11" and so soft he has to play SG and he can't spell defense never mind play it
Chandler? He's okay
Hill? Please
Douglas? Lester Hudson has a better NBA future
Landry? You mean JR Giddens Jr

And who cares about cap flexibility or the future

This is a team for right now to compare in a hypothetical situation to see if you could build a team better than the team that is currently in place

Do I want you to believe that this team could win enough games to make the playoffs versus other teams being put together? I could care less

It's not a competition

I like my team

I think they could win 50 games

And I think they could make the playoffs in this format

If you are now saying you dont even care what other people think of our teams or how they would do versus the other teams in this league, why are you one of the more predominant posters on a 29 page thread debating whether your team is better and how they would do...?

I care what other posters think of my team, that was the whole point of this. It has been fun and I have kind of learned a very small piece of the kinds od decisions you gotta decide when putting an nba team together. I have by no means done a great job with my team. I initially just thought about getting the best valued player for my team rather then focusing on the fit and the time and point my team was at. Some posters pointed this out to me and I have made a few trades. Im still looking to do a few more. However, I am also not posting that my team is going to win 60 games. I would like to believe they are a contender because they have 4 very solid nba starters in Dalembert, Parker, Marion and Duncan that seem to fit. I also have some interesting pieces to get a better fit at sg. We will see how this goes. However, please don't take it personally if you tout your team strongly and someone disagrees....

How does saying they would win 50 games mean I am promoting them as being great or something

I think they could win 50 games

I said they might be able to make an ECF but it would be very difficult

But I also very jokingly said they were a top 4 team in the East....very jokingly

I never disagreed when people said they would be lucky to get out of the first round

I was also the one in this thread to say that any team expecting to win a championship should have a top 5 player in the league which my team clearly does not

[The Walker Wiggle]

Grant Hill is still a great athlete, IMO, not the above the rim player he once was, but still quick, fluid and with one of the league's better cross-overs.

I love Hill and Allen, together or separately. And neither seems to be getting enough credit for their influence compared to Nate Robinson or Larry Hughes. (One more reason any comparison to the 08-09 Knicks rings false.)

I would like to see the Knicks add a true center to their bench.

[Who]

I welcome all critiques and promise to take them personally.

KCattheStripe, why did you trade Joakim Noah for Chris Kaman?

I thought Noah was the better long term fit for the club. The younger of the two and healthier. The better individual player already due to his superior rebounding + defensive contributions.

Although, I do think Kaman has added value for how well he fits into this team. His scoring will help provide more floor balance offensively and I think he'll make Jeff Green more effective. But that is a short term fit for a team that is built for the future ...