Sheed Being Sheed

[Bahku]

I have to admit, I really disliked Sheed before he came to Boston ... I never liked his attitude or lack of energy, or his propensity for blaming his weaknesses/mistakes on anything other than himself. But after he was here I welcomed him and gave him the benefit of the doubt, focusing on his attributes and what he could add to this team coming off the bench. I have to say now that I'm not the least bit surprised about what's happening ... this is just Sheed being Sheed, folks, and coming to the Celtics has not been the magical transformation that we had hoped for.

Hate to say it, but he is just plain lazy on the court. He's very often reluctant to take it to the paint and post-up, (even though that's probably the best and most effective part of his game), does not concentrate on defense or try to take charges, very rarely goes to the floor for a loose ball, loves to just walk it up the floor and launch three-point bricks, (a few of which go in), and can not stop running his mouth if his life, (or the good of his team), depends on it.


                             
                   

If he could try to put the team before himself for once, move his feet on defense, get his post game going, get out ahead on the fast-break, and stop flapping his gums, not only would he be a huge benefit to this team, but he would secure himself a lauded place in NBA history. That's how good I think his post game is, (or could be), but I honestly don't think it will ever happen ... especially this late in his career.

Sheed does what he needs to get by, and very little more ... that's just who he is. The Celtics knew what they were getting when they went after him, and like the rest of us, hoped for a renewed effort and transformation for the sake of getting a ring and being part of a championship team. It's a shame that he doesn't fully realize the opportunity he has now, because I doubt it will ever come again for him. We can complain about it all we want, but again, it's just "Sheed being Sheed" ... we rolled the dice, but they came up snake-eyes.

If there were ever a time for this franchise to make some moves to strengthen the bench, it's now ... I'm just not sure that we'll have the right opportunity. I hate to say it because I can see this guy's potential, and he could be a great player, but Sheed is no longer on my "Must Protect/Keep" list for this team, even for the remainder of the season. Marquis' absence is just magnified by Wallace's lack of effort and production ... he's the anchor guy off the bench right now, and he's just not pulling his (considerable) weight. Here's hoping something changes in Sheed's corner, (or his head) ... and soon.

[Onslaught]

I agree. I "sports hate" Sheed and could never come to terms with him being a Celtic. I dislike him almost as much as Bill Laimbeer.

He will cost us a game in the playoffs with that mouth of his. Hope it's not a game 7.

[thebirdman]

I really don`t think that it is his fault that he doesn`t play in the post more. I put that on Doc. If we called more plays for him in the post he would be down low but Rivers prefers him to spread the floor...

What bothers me with him is his lack of energy. He looks lazy a lot of times...I hope in the playoffs we see more urgency from him...

[Roy Hobbs]

I really don`t think that it is his fault that he doesn`t play in the post more. I put that on Doc. If we called more plays for him in the post he would be down low but Rivers prefers him to spread the floor...

I don't think that's completely the case.  I doubt Doc wants Rasheed to be *exclusively* a post player, but he'd have to be an idiot not to encourage him to go into the post.

Rasheed drifting away from the basket has been a trend, hitting its zenith last year when *90%* of his shots were jumpers.  This year, an amazing 87% of his shots are on jump shots.

This is mostly on Rasheed.  Some players are who they are; Rasheed and KG are bigs who, for whatever reason, aren't comfortable in the post, even though they're good there.

[jdpapa3]

I don't really see "laziness" on defense. His lateral movement is shot and you can easily beat him off the dribble. He shows to me that he is trying with all of his steals that he is a very crafty player and does the most with his brain on the defensive end. It's just funny because I would consider his Defensive IQ to be very high and his offensive IQ to be extremely frustrating. I can't remember a player like this in a long time.

And his lack of side to side movement doesn't make me as optimistic about that 3 year deal.

[BballTim]

I have to admit, I really disliked Sheed before he came to Boston ... I never liked his attitude or lack of energy, or his propensity for blaming his weaknesses/mistakes on anything other than himself. But after he was here I welcomed him and gave him the benefit of the doubt, focusing on his attributes and what he could add to this team coming off the bench. I have to say now that I'm not the least bit surprised about what's happening ... this is just Sheed being Sheed, folks, and coming to the Celtics has not been the magical transformation that we had hoped for.

Hate to say it, but he is just plain lazy on the court. He's very often reluctant to take it to the paint and post-up, (even though that's probably the best and most effective part of his game), does not concentrate on defense or try to take charges, very rarely goes to the floor for a loose ball, loves to just walk it up the floor and launch three-point bricks, (a few of which go in), and can not stop running his mouth if his life, (or the good of his team), depends on it.


                             
                   

If he could try to put the team before himself for once, move his feet on defense, get his post game going, get out ahead on the fast-break, and stop flapping his gums, not only would he be a huge benefit to this team, but he would secure himself a lauded place in NBA history. That's how good I think his post game is, (or could be), but I honestly don't think it will ever happen ... especially this late in his career.

Sheed does what he needs to get by, and very little more ... that's just who he is. The Celtics knew what they were getting when they went after him, and like the rest of us, hoped for a renewed effort and transformation for the sake of getting a ring and being part of a championship team. It's a shame that he doesn't fully realize the opportunity he has now, because I doubt it will ever come again for him. We can complain about it all we want, but again, it's just "Sheed being Sheed" ... we rolled the dice, but they came up snake-eyes.

If there were ever a time for this franchise to make some moves to strengthen the bench, it's now ... I'm just not sure that we'll have the right opportunity. I hate to say it because I can see this guy's potential, and he could be a great player, but Sheed is no longer on my "Must Protect/Keep" list for this team, even for the remainder of the season. Marquis' absence is just magnified by Wallace's lack of effort and production ... he's the anchor guy off the bench right now, and he's just not pulling his (considerable) weight. Here's hoping something changes in Sheed's corner, (or his head) ... and soon.

  In fairness to Sheed there were similar complaints about KG playing on the outside and not in the post on offense when we traded for him, to the extent that people were saying that he didn't mix it up inside on offense because he wasn't really interested in winning.

[idrinkdetergent]

I cant say I don't like Sheed. I do, even after shooting us out of games and getting T'd up for no reason. But you have to see the benefit too. He does still get timely steals. When we played the Magic on Christmas he had a few down the stretch where they'd try to feed Howard and he would poke it away. Also he may get alot of ticky tack fouls but he always swings for the ball at the last second which seems to stop a layup a decent amount of time. Now I'm not saying hes not lazy, because he is and I'm not saying hes not shooting too many 3s, he definitely is. But I still think that the Celtics are better off having him there incase Perk gets in foul trouble so he can play D on opposing centers instead of having Glen Davis in there just trying to get under people.

[Amonkey]

This is what I wrote about him on my last Sheed rant.

Defensively, I like what Sheed has been doing.  His rotation may be a bit slow at times, but he does present a presence down low.  He blocks shots and denies entry pass to the big man.

However, offensively, he is really bugging me.  He is reminding me way too much of Antoine Walker.  He is so much more effective on the post.  I like how he can catch the ball and shoot without bringing the ball down.  He can post up on players.  However, instead he just hangs around the 3-point line.  After every pick and roll, he rolls to the 3 point line.  Come on Sheed!  He is so much more effective on the post.  He just really bugs me because he can do so much more.

The biggest thing is that he is reminding me of Walker way too much.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Completely scratching my head over the timing of this thread. Despite struggling a couple of games recently, he's just had his most efficient month as a Celtic @ 44.6% FG and 35.6% beyond the arc scoring 13 points per game.

I don't know what you guys were expecting from him, but this is just about what I expected from him and he's doing quite fine. And remember he recently missed 3 games with a sore left foot.

And he just came off a good game against the Wizards.

[Amonkey]

Completely scratching my head over the timing of this thread. Despite struggling a couple of games recently, he's just had his most efficient month as a Celtic @ 44.6% FG and 35.6% beyond the arc scoring 13 points per game.

I don't know what you guys were expecting from him, but this is just about what I expected from him and he's doing quite fine. And remember he recently missed 3 games with a sore left foot.

And he just came off a good game against the Wizards.

I think the question is not the FG percentage of his 3s but rather the amount of 3s he is taking.  I think he can increase his scoring average a lot more if he took more shots down low.

[ScoobyDoo]

I was going to do a thread this AM called "Rasheed in the Post" but I'd just like to add in here.

I don't mind Rasheed. I'm not huge on him but I like what he brings. Most bigs are plodders anyway. I mean how many guys have ever run the floor like KG or Malone? Not many. And Rasheed is "the biggest" guy on our team. He's not 30 anymore so he's more of a plodder than a gazelle at this point.
He's a little lazy sometimes but so are Rondo, Perk, Pierce...Pierce often messes up a play and stands there while the other team and KG with his bad leg are screaching the other way... 

I like his hard fouls down low and gives us some very good length to go with Perk and KG. I hate his Techs...bad for him and the team

I LOVE Rasheed in the post. I still can't figure out why some say he has no post game. He is actualy incredibly efficient down there. It's almost guaranteed when he works within a 12 foot arc baseline to baseline. He is far and away our best post option.

And I don't buy that Rasheed won't go into the post. That's bull. Doc doesn't run enough plays for him down there or isn't insisting on him getting down there enough. And he should do the same with KG. Sometimes it's not what the players "want" to do, it's what they're "going" to do. That's on Doc.

Besides, every time I see Rasheed on the post, he doesn't look bothered to me at all. He looks like he's got a nice steak in front of him and can't wait to tear into it. He's aggressive, he gets his worm on, and tries to go to the hole hard. To me that is not someone who refuses to go the post.

Same with KG, when a play is run where he actually is "put" in the post, he usually aggressivley tries to do somethign with it. If he hated it so much he would always be passing it out.

I would be palyign alot more isnide out with these two guys, mixing up their touches 60-40 inside out. It would create alot more uncertainty for the oppsing Defense as well.

I'd try to get Rasheed about 2-3 threes a game and get KG plenty of his mid range jumpers, but I'd have alot of block time for both those guys because the other team has to react to them down there and that leaves other guys good shots because they are both good passers.

Having these two players playing primarily on the outside is a very bad use of resources. 

I would even do alot of isnide out with KG and Rasheed on the floor at the same time. I'd create some plays where you are just going back and forth with KG low and Sheed high, then vice cersa but with the goal to pound it to the rim.

I'd like to see Sheed with about 70 percent of his shots in a 12 foot arc baseline to baseline and 30% from three land.

[cornbreadsmart]

he puts himself before the team. I can't stand him. I'd love someone to tell him to shut the f up on the court. I'm so tired of his "i'm a victim" routine. When i saw the article anbout agendas I think Rasheed right away. Maybe he is too lazy to have an agenda though. I was always proud the celtics didnt run their organization like the red sox. I don't like rasheed's name on a celtic uniform.too late now.

[crownsy]

he puts himself before the team. I can't stand him. I'd love someone to tell him to shut the f up on the court. I'm so tired of his "i'm a victim" routine. When i saw the article anbout agendas I think Rasheed right away. Maybe he is too lazy to have an agenda though. I was always proud the celtics didnt run their organization like the red sox. I don't like rasheed's name on a celtic uniform.too late now.

I could replace sheed's name with perk's in that post, to a degree.

I don't like alot of things about sheed, tough to take him to task  for the "i'm a victim!!" attitude when kendrick perkins, as far as i can tell, has never fouled a player in his life and can't grasp the fact that he needs to shut his yap about calls to avoid T's.

[xmuscularghandix]

I agree. I "sports hate" Sheed and could never come to terms with him being a Celtic. I dislike him almost as much as Bill Laimbeer.

He will cost us a game in the playoffs with that mouth of his. Hope it's not a game 7.

He will win us multiple games in the playoffs. He can defend Dwight while creating match up problems on the offensive end, He also pulls Shaq and Z away from the basket. Get a grip on the technical fouls and not taking it into the post.

He's coming off one of his best games because he didn't jack up three's. But lets also note that the beginning of the season he was firing at will... and we were winning by 20 every night. Everyone's just mad cause he's in the middle of a shooting slump.

[Drucci]

I agree. I "sports hate" Sheed and could never come to terms with him being a Celtic. I dislike him almost as much as Bill Laimbeer.

He will cost us a game in the playoffs with that mouth of his. Hope it's not a game 7.

He will win us multiple games in the playoffs. He can defend Dwight while creating match up problems on the offensive end, He also pulls Shaq and Z away from the basket. Get a grip on the technical fouls and not taking it into the post.

He's coming off one of his best games because he didn't jack up three's. But lets also note that the beginning of the season he was firing at will... and we were winning by 20 every night. Everyone's just mad cause he's in the middle of a shooting slump.

Agreed 100% with you ghandix. And Sheed has improved his shooting over the last month.

I really liked him in the Wizards game, defending very well and going to the post all the time (just one 3 point attempt).

I really do think Sheed will use his abilities to the best in the playoffs, where his postup game will help us tremendously against halfcourt, tough defenses.

Games like the one against the Wizards show you that Sheed kind of cruises through the season, but he is preserving his fire and biggest assets for the playoffs. You can dislike this attitude and blame him but I'd rather take a cautious and trigger-happy Sheed in the season to have him play to his best level when it matters most - in the playoffs.