Sheed -- 21 minutes, ONE rebound, THREE points

[scoop]

I'm not even slightly surprised. Wallace imploded last season in Detroit - he didn't have legs any more to get the job done and, obviously, he didn't get them back.

He's only one above average talent - low post defence - but with Perkins+Glenn Davis already on the roster that becomes a little redundant.

Hopefully, he has some sort of momentary "renaissance" late in the season, it can always happen. 

[Chief]

I'm not even slightly surprised. Wallace imploded last season in Detroit - he didn't have legs any more to get the job done and, obviously, he didn't get them back.

He's only one above average talent - low post defence - but with Perkins+Glenn Davis already on the roster that becomes a little redundant.

Hopefully, he has some sort of momentary "renaissance" late in the season, it can always happen. 

I think Rasheed will prove his worth in the playoffs. Kind of a Robert Horry situation.

[Fafnir]

He's excellent insurance against foul trouble by Perkins, and at gives us another big who can shoot. I'd rather have Sheed out there than Glen if we need that for match up purposes.

[EJPLAYA]

When Sheed went out and the starters all came back out we had an 11 point lead. Hmmmm…. Maybe the problem isn't Sheed?

People on here whine when Sheed takes a bunch of threes, now they are whining because he didn't force a bunch of shots. He took 3 shots yesterday. He actually had 4 assists which means he was looking to get people involved versus jacking up shots. Gasol only had 11 points and some of those weren't even with him in the game.

People! Sheed isn't playing great right now, however he isn't the reason we are losing games. Fact of the matter it is our starters aren't pulling their weight. They are the ones giving the games away. Sheed just isn't carrying them.

[Amonkey]

Defensively, I like what Sheed has been doing.  His rotation may be a bit slow at times, but he does present a presence down low.  He blocks shots and denies entry pass to the big man.

However, offensively, he is really bugging me.  He is reminding me way too much of Antoine Walker.  He is so much more effective on the post.  I like how he can catch the ball and shoot without bringing the ball down.  He can post up on players.  However, instead he just hangs around the 3-point line.  After every pick and roll, he rolls to the 3 point line.  Come on Sheed!  He is so much more effective on the post.  He just really bugs me because he can do so much more.

[angryguy77]

When Sheed went out and the starters all came back out we had an 11 point lead. Hmmmm…. Maybe the problem isn't Sheed?

People on here whine when Sheed takes a bunch of threes, now they are whining because he didn't force a bunch of shots. He took 3 shots yesterday. He actually had 4 assists which means he was looking to get people involved versus jacking up shots. Gasol only had 11 points and some of those weren't even with him in the game.

People! Sheed isn't playing great right now, however he isn't the reason we are losing games. Fact of the matter it is our starters aren't pulling their weight. They are the ones giving the games away. Sheed just isn't carrying them.

Thats right on. He is not the problem. He seems to be the easiest target though.

[EJPLAYA]

Defensively, I like what Sheed has been doing.  His rotation may be a bit slow at times, but he does present a presence down low.  He blocks shots and denies entry pass to the big man.

However, offensively, he is really bugging me.  He is reminding me way too much of Antoine Walker.  He is so much more effective on the post.  I like how he can catch the ball and shoot without bringing the ball down.  He can post up on players.  However, instead he just hangs around the 3-point line.  After every pick and roll, he rolls to the 3 point line.  Come on Sheed!  He is so much more effective on the post.  He just really bugs me because he can do so much more.

You must have not been watching the majority of the last 10 games. He has made a very obvious change in his game to go down on the block and try and score there vs. taking only threes. Yesterday wasn't that way, however he has been doing that lately. Cut the guy some slack. He's getting screwed by the refs every time he steps out on the floor. Yes he brought it on himself in his career but it has gone beyond the level of fair. That severely limits him defensively.

[Amonkey]

Defensively, I like what Sheed has been doing.  His rotation may be a bit slow at times, but he does present a presence down low.  He blocks shots and denies entry pass to the big man.

However, offensively, he is really bugging me.  He is reminding me way too much of Antoine Walker.  He is so much more effective on the post.  I like how he can catch the ball and shoot without bringing the ball down.  He can post up on players.  However, instead he just hangs around the 3-point line.  After every pick and roll, he rolls to the 3 point line.  Come on Sheed!  He is so much more effective on the post.  He just really bugs me because he can do so much more.

You must have not been watching the majority of the last 10 games. He has made a very obvious change in his game to go down on the block and try and score there vs. taking only threes. Yesterday wasn't that way, however he has been doing that lately. Cut the guy some slack. He's getting screwed by the refs every time he steps out on the floor. Yes he brought it on himself in his career but it has gone beyond the level of fair. That severely limits him defensively.

I have been watching and he hasn't made a change.  Since he came back from injury, these are how many threes he has shot, 4, 5, 7, 4, 6, 5, 3.  Out of all those shots, he only made 10 out of 34.  Now you tell me he has been taken less shots?  It's about making smart shots.  There is no reason Sheed should be taking more than 5 3-pointers during a game.  If he can shoot 2-3 3's per game that is fine, as long as those are open 3's (which he occasionally does get).  However, when he is hanging around and forcing those shots instead of going down to the paint where is much more effective.

[vinnie]

I didn't state that Sheed was or is the problem. However, I find it impossible that a talented 7-footer continues to put up Mark Blount rebounding numbers. Also, he is lazy on defense. Once and awhile he does make a nice play to knock the ball away and we all notice. But how many times does he make a swipe or slap and the next thing you know his guy is by him and to the hoop. He is not the problem, but I guess my point is he certainly is not the answer.

[scoop]

He's excellent insurance against foul trouble by Perkins, and at gives us another big who can shoot. I'd rather have Sheed out there than Glen if we need that for match up purposes.

Match up purposes it's okay, but he's going to match up with whom? Shaq playing less than 30 mpg? A couple of minutes on Howard? I'd be more than happy with Davis/Garnett playing those situational minutes.

The Celtics need rebounding+mobility'n'quickness way more than they need low post defence.

[scoop]

When Sheed went out and the starters all came back out we had an 11 point lead. Hmmmm…. Maybe the problem isn't Sheed?

On the other hand, he had the dubious honour of being the only bench player with a negative +/-.

Of course Wallace isn't "the problem" - that would be silly considering he's a backup playing 20ish mpg. But so far, he's been more part of the problem than part of the solution.

[EJPLAYA]

I didn't state that Sheed was or is the problem. However, I find it impossible that a talented 7-footer continues to put up Mark Blount rebounding numbers. Also, he is lazy on defense. Once and awhile he does make a nice play to knock the ball away and we all notice. But how many times does he make a swipe or slap and the next thing you know his guy is by him and to the hoop. He is not the problem, but I guess my point is he certainly is not the answer.

Are you talking about Rondo's defense or Sheeds? Kind of funny how Rondo is playing the exact same defense but is considered to be a great defender, but Sheed is a bum… Maybe he watched Rondo play and figured if it was good enough for the PG then its good enough for him.

[EJPLAYA]

When Sheed went out and the starters all came back out we had an 11 point lead. Hmmmm…. Maybe the problem isn't Sheed?

On the other hand, he had the dubious honour of being the only bench player with a negative +/-.

Of course Wallace isn't "the problem" - that would be silly considering he's a backup playing 20ish mpg. But so far, he's been more part of the problem than part of the solution.

When the starters fix their problems THEN I will move on to ripping on the 2nd unit. No one has the guts on here to call out any starter other than Ray.

[Fafnir]

When Sheed went out and the starters all came back out we had an 11 point lead. Hmmmm…. Maybe the problem isn't Sheed?

On the other hand, he had the dubious honour of being the only bench player with a negative +/-.

Of course Wallace isn't "the problem" - that would be silly considering he's a backup playing 20ish mpg. But so far, he's been more part of the problem than part of the solution.

When the starters fix their problems THEN I will move on to ripping on the 2nd unit. No one has the guts on here to call out any starter other than Ray.

Plenty of people have called out KG, Perk, and Rondo the past few weeks. Pierce has probably been the only guy spared much, and I probably just missed the thread killing him.

[vinnie]

I guess what my eyes see is most of the guys busting their butts, while Sheed does not or at least looks like he doesn't. Play the game and shut your mouth, Sheed.