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Sheed -- 21 minutes, ONE rebound, THREE points
« on: January 31, 2010, 11:42:35 PM »

Offline vinnie

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Not to mention all of the lazy, slap-happy, matador defense he played. How can a 7-foot guy play 21 minutes and get only ONE rebound? That is mind-boggling. Can't wait til he starts racking up suspensions when he gets to Technical 16. I supported the signing, I am now regretting it.

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Not to mention all of the lazy, slap-happy, matador defense he played. How can a 7-foot guy play 21 minutes and get only ONE rebound? That is mind-boggling. Can't wait til he starts racking up suspensions when he gets to Technical 16. I supported the signing, I am now regretting it.

I hate to admit it, but i agree. Rasheed is a clown, and a huge disappointment. I think Rasheed has a low bball IQ, or he's just plain LAZY. How else can you explain him launching those 3 pointers the very second the ball lands in his hands? A smart player would realize what their limitations are, but he doesn't, which is why i'm now questioning his bball IQ.

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He looked good in the beginning of the season. He was making those threes and playing good defense. I don't know what is going on with him of late. Hes been playing terrible defense and can not hit a shot from a behind the arc. The whole team has looked bad as a whole for this entire month.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 02:34:01 AM »

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he had no d...gasol was killin him..scalabrine didnt get any time and would have done a better job.

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 02:34:34 AM »

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I really disliked Sheed before he came to Boston, but after he was here I welcomed him and gave him the benefit of the doubt, focusing on what he could add to this team coming off the bench. I have to say now that I'm not the least bit surprised about what's happening ... this is just Sheed being Sheed, folks, and coming to the Celtics has not been the magical transformation that we had hoped for.

He is just plain lazy on the court, hates to take it to the paint and post-up, (even though that's probably the best and most effective part of his game), he does not concentrate on defense or try to take charges, very rarely goes to the floor for a loose ball, loves to just walk it up the floor and launch three-point bricks, (a few of which go in), and can not stop running his mouth if his life depends on it.

If he could try to put the team before himself for once, move his feet on defense, get his post game going, get out ahead on the fast-break, and stop flapping his gums, not only would he be a huge benefit to this team, but he would secure himself a high place in NBA history. That's how good I think his post game is, (or could be), but I just don't think it will ever happen.

Sheed does what he needs to get by, and nothing more ... that's just who he is. The Celtics knew what they were getting when they went after him, and like the rest of us, hoped for a renewed effort and transformation for the sake of getting a ring. It's a shame that he doesn't fully realize the opportunity he has now, because I doubt it will ever come again for him. We can complain about it all we want, but again, it's just "Sheed being Sheed" ... we rolled the dice, but they came up snake-eyes.

If there were ever a time for this franchise to make some moves to strengthen the bench, it's now ... I'm just not sure that we'll have the right opportunity. I hate to say it because I can see this guy's potential, and he could be a great player, but Sheed is no longer on my "Must Protect/Keep" list for this team, or even the remainder of the season. Here's hoping something changes ... and soon.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 03:02:37 AM »

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I must say this. I think his defensive bbiq is off of the charts. If he didn't have smarts on the defensive end, he would be a complete lost cause. He baits the entry pass at least once a game and is very nifty as a defensive big man. The problem, however, is that he has to do this to make up for the fact that he can not move laterally at all and gets burnt in a rotation or off of the dribble constantly. I don't see lack of effort from Sheed: I see lack of working legs.

Not a fan of his offensive iq, however. It seems when he rushes his shot, it has 0% chance of going in and when he takes his time, it rarely goes in.
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He's following in the footsteps of Cassell and Marbury.
Great players in their prime with hustle, great attitude, and all the important intangibles ::)

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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 06:45:28 AM »

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I really disliked Sheed before he came to Boston, but after he was here I welcomed him and gave him the benefit of the doubt, focusing on what he could add to this team coming off the bench. I have to say now that I'm not the least bit surprised about what's happening ... this is just Sheed being Sheed, folks, and coming to the Celtics has not been the magical transformation that we had hoped for.

He is just plain lazy on the court, hates to take it to the paint and post-up, (even though that's probably the best and most effective part of his game), he does not concentrate on defense or try to take charges, very rarely goes to the floor for a loose ball, loves to just walk it up the floor and launch three-point bricks, (a few of which go in), and can not stop running his mouth if his life depends on it.

If he could try to put the team before himself for once, move his feet on defense, get his post game going, get out ahead on the fast-break, and stop flapping his gums, not only would he be a huge benefit to this team, but he would secure himself a high place in NBA history. That's how good I think his post game is, (or could be), but I just don't think it will ever happen.

Sheed does what he needs to get by, and nothing more ... that's just who he is. The Celtics knew what they were getting when they went after him, and like the rest of us, hoped for a renewed effort and transformation for the sake of getting a ring. It's a shame that he doesn't fully realize the opportunity he has now, because I doubt it will ever come again for him. We can complain about it all we want, but again, it's just "Sheed being Sheed" ... we rolled the dice, but they came up snake-eyes.

If there were ever a time for this franchise to make some moves to strengthen the bench, it's now ... I'm just not sure that we'll have the right opportunity. I hate to say it because I can see this guy's potential, and he could be a great player, but Sheed is no longer on my "Must Protect/Keep" list for this team, or even the remainder of the season. Here's hoping something changes ... and soon.

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Whilst he is past his prime, this guy still has the tools to be a very good player - on both sides of the ball.  He just seems to be hard to motivate.  I think his attitude of  turning the switch on when the playoffs come around, has carried over from the Pistons to the C's.

The return of KG could see much better play from RW in the long run (although it hasnt yet).  KG motivates and inspires.  We have seen that over the past couple of years, so there is no reason to doubt what KG is capable of.  I think Rasheed holds KG in very high regards.

Is it reasonable to expect a change though?  Afterall, the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.

Whats amazing though is everytime you watch a national C's broadcast, how many times an announcer will say that Sheed has (or had) all the tools to become the leagues best player - but thats something he never wanted to be.

 As Bakhu said, i think he is happy to coast, and do the bare minimum of whats required.


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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 06:57:41 AM »

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The last C's big man to rebound like this was Mark Blount. He shared the ability to be really tall, yet never get a rebound.

Anyway, the only real problem I have with Sheed's line last night was the 21 minutes. I think the less he's on the court, the better. I gave up on actual production a long time ago.

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 07:01:04 AM »

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I agree that Sheed has been quite a deception for the past few feeks.

What annoys me the most is that he got 3 technicals in 3 consecutive games (Orlando, Atlanta, Lakers) and he now has 14 T's already. Two more and the suspensions start...

It's too bad because Sheed had done a good job of avoiding T's for a long stretch. Some of the T's he got called for were bogus but... at least it shows he cares about these games more than others.

His production has clearly dropped and his rebounding rate is ridiculous (although you would have been crazy to cheer about the Sheed signing by expecting a lot from his production in the rebounding area) but I think he is in a slump right now and will get better soon (like Ray).

Sheed still has a lot of talent and he is a smart basketball player. I wish he would get in shape though. When he gets blown by opponents I wonder if it's due to lack of shape, laziness, or both.

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What I cannot understand is how such an important franchise as the C's permit him to be so out of shapes. He's got Andersonesque boobs! Can“'t explain it...

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What I cannot understand is how such an important franchise as the C's permit him to be so out of shapes. He's got Andersonesque boobs! Can“'t explain it...

Andersonesque....

Is that Anderson Varejao, Ryan Anderson or Chris "the Birdman" Anderson?

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2010, 08:00:16 AM »

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Pamela, slugger, the one who was married to JR in "Dallas"...

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Pamela, slugger, the one who was married to JR in "Dallas"...
hmmmm. Never heard of her.  I may have to google her!  ;)

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 08:42:19 AM »

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All those people who called Sheed the ultimate winner and team player with a super bball iq never made sense to me.  I think he's just such a jerk that even though he knows what shots he should be taking, he does what he wants.  Really no different from Anoine.  His rebounding is pathetic, he's a jerk to the refs.  He talked trash to Gasol, and then Gasol blew past him for dunks like 3 times in the quarter.  Not smart.  And he's one of the laziest players I've ever seen.  If a less talented guy was that lazy, he wouldn't stick in the league.  All we need to know is CTC- cut the check.