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Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2010, 08:26:36 AM »

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More than anything... they need this:

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Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2010, 08:29:11 AM »

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Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2010, 08:32:39 AM »

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Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 08:36:42 AM »

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A coach who, after his pg has played a tremendous game and controlled and dominated play, doesn't have the last three possesions of the game run through PP!
I hate it when they give Paul the ball at the top of the key and expect him to make something happen(like with the foul on Artest).  I never really liked it even when Paul was in his prime, but now he can't get by guys like he used to and never seems to get good shots.  Remember that ridiculous last second scoop shot airball a week or two or go?  I'd rather see him score off ball movement.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 08:41:05 AM »

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This topic is neat :]

They need to check this topic. That's what they need.

I wonder what they'd post if they'd check this place out.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 08:47:01 AM »

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This topic is neat :]

They need to check this topic. That's what they need.

I wonder what they'd post if they'd check this place out.

They'd probably start "Fire Doc" and "Trade Ray Allen" threads.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 08:47:59 AM »

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This topic is neat :]

They need to check this topic. That's what they need.

I wonder what they'd post if they'd check this place out.

They'd probably start "Fire Doc" and "Trade Ray Allen" threads.
Grrrr. You know what's gonna happen now >_<

Incoming.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2010, 08:53:59 AM »

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This team needs a quick backup point. Someone who can hopefully hit and creat his own shot in addition to his teammates. A player who makes House what he is, a shooting guard, and also creates opportunities for Rasheed too. Beyond that, health and more focus on rebounding.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2010, 09:14:31 AM »

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This team needs a quick backup point. Someone who can hopefully hit and creat his own shot in addition to his teammates. A player who makes House what he is, a shooting guard, and also creates opportunities for Rasheed too.
You just described Marquis? ;)

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2010, 09:15:30 AM »

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The team needs it's nasty win-at-all-costs attitude back.  Spending all your energy complaining to the refs ain't gonna cut it. 

Just shut up and focus on shutting the other team down. 

The rest will come.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2010, 09:18:52 AM »

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The team needs it's nasty win-at-all-costs attitude back.  Spending all your energy complaining to the refs ain't gonna cut it. 

Just shut up and focus on shutting the other team down. 

The rest will come.
They used to not know whether they were able to win it or not. Now that they did, they know they can win it all, and thus it must be other peoples' fault when they don't. Does that make sense?

Just a random train of thought.

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2010, 09:41:48 AM »

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We need better coaching

Sheed to play 99% in the post

Eddie House to quit jacking up quick threes

Ray Allen to be willing to come off the bench

KG to not get hurt anymore

Pierce to quit going one on one

Rondo to take open jumpers

Glenn Davis to play like he's playing for a contract

Danny to make some upgrades

to be continued...
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Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2010, 09:49:29 AM »

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Need an upgrade. We really don't have the go to scorer anymore. Pierce does it every once in awhile but we need a guy that can go out every night and be consistent and if he has a bad game its not because his knees are old! WE NEED YOUTH!

Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2010, 10:40:49 AM »

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Celts need to get younger.  Period.  We shot our load, I was against it, but it worked.  We won and are at least relevant again.

I don't know if Daniels will make much of a difference, but look at the injuries to Davis, KG, and he.  Then add games missed by Pierce, Sheed, and RR.  Then look that Doc hasn't tried to get Giddens or Walker any time.  If these guys are so bad that they deserve no minutes behind House, TA, and Scal, then get us some new guys.  Second round draft quality players are a dime a dozen. 

We have an open roster spot, there must be a serviceable FA out there somewhere.
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Re: What do the Celtics need most?
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2010, 10:40:56 AM »

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Internally:

Move Ray to the bench and bring in TA as a starter:

I think Ray would be a significantly more effective scorer against the other teams back up wings.  Not only could he space the floor in such a role, but he could probably be much better at creating offense.  TA as a starter only has to play defense and slash if the defense sags.  It's a role that suits him much better than his bench role and I like him & Rondo on the floor together at the same time.  They can push it.  

Big Man Rotation:

Personally I don't care if Rasheed is making the money and Shelden is not.  If Shelden hustles and plays then he gets more time.  We need someone who is willing to mix it up, play down low and bruise.  Baby can't rebound and Rasheed is Rasheed.  I loved the Sheed signing this summer, but it has been years since I really watched him play and his game is not what it used to be.  Point is we need someone to come in and be a big man in that rotation - rebound and play w/their back to the basket.

Stop being a 3 point shooting team:

Too many long rebounds, too many bad shots.  I think the offense has to run through Rondo at all times and he needs to slash and score and slash and pass.  No more triple screens to get Ray open for 3.  Either try to create a mid-range mismatch with Paul or cut with Rondo.  Work the offense off those plays.  Look for Ray/Eddie around the perimeter with the extra pass, but quit forcing it to them.  Every time I see this play I wonder if about whether they could have used that 15 seconds it takes to run that play to get a better shot.

Externally:

Trade expiring contracts for a scorer:

I love Ray, but we need someone who is going to break down offenses, get to the rim and score.  Paul used to be that man, but he isn't that player anymore.  He still has his mid-range game and the occasional game where he bounces through the lane, but it is not consistent.  If we can get a scorer for Ray then I'd do it.  If they are not a "defensive minded" player, so be it.  Neither was Ray when he came to Boston.  

Trade expiring contracts for an enforcer:

Jeff Foster or someone of that ilk would be good for this team.  They need a player that fights for the second chances and the garbage points.  If they had this as the 4th big instead of an undersized 4 w/either brick hands or no rebounding ability, it would compliment Rasheed's game more and create a more fluid bench.  

Point Guard:

Eddie doesn't cut it.  Eddie has been important for this team over the past two years, but he's off this year from 3 and if he can't hit the 3 @ a very good clip he is not worth his minuets.  He is a one trick pony and if that trick doesn't work he is useless.  They need to bring in someone that can handle the ball, initiate the offense and shooting would be a plus.  

The second unit falls flat for a lot of reasons but the big 3 are a lack of a scoring option, a reliance on the 3 and no rebounders.  IMO you solve this by moving Ray to 6th man, and bringing in a PG and a rebounder with your expirings.  Or you bring in a scorer to solve the 1st units problem and hope you can get a rebounder and back up PG w/buyouts.  But I think the offensive stagnation w/the first unit can be solved internally w/a change in execution and offensive philosophy.