In regards to this whole thread, I don't really see much Ray "hate". I don't see people saying he sucks and he's an idiot like we see with TA, Baby, Sheed. It's just a fact that he's getting older, declining a little bit, and probably playing too many minutes. Who can hate Ray?
Agreed. "Hate" is such a trite misused word these days that it's almost rendered meaningless. People are discussing the relative merits of his game, and if some people speak of a decline in his game, it's characterized as "hating". Bizarre.