Bosh for Bynum?

[scoop]

Bosh is seriously overrated.  And Bynum is a much better fit with Bargnani.

There is only one ball.  The Lakers do not need another scorer.  They need defense and rebounding, neither of which Gasol supplies.

The Lakers also need a better bench.  That's where they should focus their efforts at the deadline, not on Bosh.

Bosh is a better rebounder then Bynum, by both totals and rate.  Bosh is a better passer then Bynum.  Bosh is a better scorer, from pretty much everywhere, then Bynum.  Neither guy is a great defender, but I'd actually take Bosh at this point in their careers.  Bynum is as soft as a box of tissues and he is always hurt.

Bosh is a significant upgrade for the Lakers given their current ability and given the Lakers current situation, that should be their goal.  

I'd assume Farmar would also go to Toronto and perhaps a draft pick making it a bit better for them.  

I agree, I think this trade would improve the Lakers in every facet of the game.

I also fail to see how would Bynum be a better fit next to Bargnani. If the Bargnani/Bosh combo is already a defensive nightmare for their coach, a Bynum/Bargnani one would probably put Jay Triano in suicide watch. You probably need an excellent defender as your 3rd big playing 25-30 minutes per game plus a couple of very good defensive guards. Toronto may be forced to do this deal if Bosh is letting them know he's inclined to leave in the Summer.

[jdub1660]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

[BballTim]

That trade would give LA three of the top 10 or 12 players in the league.  And they'd still have plenty of role players.

  Do they have plenty of role players now?

Artest and Odom are two of the best.  They aren't especially deep though.

  The problem is Artest usally doesn't stay happy as a role player. Bynym takes about 11 shots a game and Bosh takes 16. Either those shots will come from somewhere or Bosh's production will slip. What you have to watch out for is that they're trading 16/8 (Bynum) for 24/11 (Bosh). What you might end up with is 18/9 for Bosh and 20/11 for Bynum after the switch.

isn't 18/9 better then 16/8.  It would seem like a no brainer.

  It's better but not monstrously better. Not so much better that it couldn't be offset by a change in defense.

[BballTim]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

  Perk's almost as likely to average 20/10 as Bosh is to get you 30/10/5.

[Edgar]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

And gasol isnt a center or at least isnt a center against perkules
or howard, or Z or S or all

[scoop]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

And gasol isnt a center or at least isnt a center against perkules
or howard, or Z or S or all

Why not? In 2 seasons he has a Finals appearance and a championship. Not too shabby.

[Edgar]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

And gasol isnt a center or at least isnt a center against perkules
or howard, or Z or S or all

Why not? In 2 seasons he has a Finals appearance and a championship. Not too shabby.

Because when he was champion is spain he was in whell chair
when he was supposed to be a center an bro takes care
when he lose against cs he was center against perk
when he played against orlando he was not a true center but a PF ... just like he is supposed to be
In 9 years as  a PF hes been v ery productive why change that

[scoop]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

And gasol isnt a center or at least isnt a center against perkules
or howard, or Z or S or all

Why not? In 2 seasons he has a Finals appearance and a championship. Not too shabby.

Because when he was champion is spain he was in whell chair
when he was supposed to be a center an bro takes care
when he lose against cs he was center against perk
when he played against orlando he was not a true center but a PF ... just like he is supposed to be
In 9 years as  a PF hes been v ery productive why change that

I wasn't thinking about his game with the Spanish NT, but he plays most of the time at the 5 there - he and Marc share minutes at the position and rarely play together.

I don't think the reason the Lakers lost in '08 was because of Gasol not matching up well with Perkins - in fact, Perkins only played >15 minutes in 2 games. In any case, they made the finals and had an excellent reg. season record after the Gasol acquisition/Bynum's injury.

Who exactly was the Lakers center vs. Orlando if Gasol was the PF? Bynum averaged what, 18 mpg?

Gasol was the Grizzlies center for most of his stay there. It was him and Lorezen Wright, if you want to call Wright a center. I agree Pau was more of a natural 4 when he entered the league, but Memphis need for him to play the 5 and put on weight actually turned him into a better 5 than 4.

[Edgar]

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

How do you figure? Bosh is a much better PF than Bynum is a C. So you move Pau to C(or develop another big like MBenga) and you let Bosh put up 30-10-5 and the Lakers repeat.
I think Bynum is a nice C, but only slightly better than Perk, and that's because of his length and athleticism. Other than that, LA would be dumb not to take that trade.

And gasol isnt a center or at least isnt a center against perkules
or howard, or Z or S or all

Why not? In 2 seasons he has a Finals appearance and a championship. Not too shabby.

Because when he was champion is spain he was in whell chair
when he was supposed to be a center an bro takes care
when he lose against cs he was center against perk
when he played against orlando he was not a true center but a PF ... just like he is supposed to be
In 9 years as  a PF hes been v ery productive why change that

I wasn't thinking about his game with the Spanish NT, but he plays most of the time at the 5 there - he and Marc share minutes at the position and rarely play together.

I don't think the reason the Lakers lost in '08 was because of Gasol not matching up well with Perkins. In any case, they made the finals and had an excellent reg. season record after the Gasol acquisition/Bynum's injury.

Who exactly was the Lakers center vs. Orlando if Gasol was the PF? Bynum averaged what, 18 mpg?

Gasol was the Grizzlies center for most of his stay there. It was him and Lorezen Wright, if you want to call Wright a center. I agree Pau was more of a natural 4 when he entered the league, but Memphis need for him to play the 5 and put on weight actually turned him into a better 5 than 4.

Well he was suposed d to be 4 in the LW idea
I understand your point
lavers can survive with gasol as center
but they will become repetitive

Is AJ a 5??? u got me then

Gasol and Bosh are not better than Bynum and Gasol
at least not in the short term