Bosh for Bynum?

[Edgar]

Bosh is seriously overrated.  And Bynum is a much better fit with Bargnani.

There is only one ball.  The Lakers do not need another scorer.  They need defense and rebounding, neither of which Gasol supplies.

The Lakers also need a better bench.  That's where they should focus their efforts at the deadline, not on Bosh.

Bosh is a better rebounder then Bynum, by both totals and rate.  Bosh is a better passer then Bynum.  Bosh is a better scorer, from pretty much everywhere, then Bynum.  Neither guy is a great defender, but I'd actually take Bosh at this point in their careers.  Bynum is as soft as a box of tissues and he is always hurt.

Bosh is a significant upgrade for the Lakers given their current ability and given the Lakers current situation, that should be their goal.  

I'd assume Farmar would also go to Toronto and perhaps a draft pick making it a bit better for them.  

lakers need the beef.
if you also cut farmar
now lakers are in trouble

Gasol-
Bosh-Odom
Artest-
Kobe-Ricky Martin
Fisher-

and no mo.

Ultra soft.

[BballTim]

Bosh is seriously overrated.  And Bynum is a much better fit with Bargnani.

There is only one ball.  The Lakers do not need another scorer.  They need defense and rebounding, neither of which Gasol supplies.

The Lakers also need a better bench.  That's where they should focus their efforts at the deadline, not on Bosh.

Bosh is a better rebounder then Bynum, by both totals and rate.  Bosh is a better passer then Bynum.  Bosh is a better scorer, from pretty much everywhere, then Bynum.  Neither guy is a great defender, but I'd actually take Bosh at this point in their careers.  Bynum is as soft as a box of tissues and he is always hurt.

Bosh is a significant upgrade for the Lakers given their current ability and given the Lakers current situation, that should be their goal.  

I'd assume Farmar would also go to Toronto and perhaps a draft pick making it a bit better for them.  

  Switch the teams and you'd probably (at least) switch the rebounding rates. The Lakers have Gasol and Odom both at 10-11 boards a game. The Raps have Andrea at 6.5 and Amir at 4.7.

[Lucky17]

Colin Cowherd is mentioning that the Lakers and Raptors are discussing a trade in which the principal pieces are Bosh to the Lakers and Bynum to the Raptors. 

Did Cowherd also reveal his Oscar picks? Was he going with Dances with Wolves for best picture, or Goodfellas?

[footey]

If this trade went down the Lakers would be pretty dominant, and 18 very unlikely for us in the near future. Hope it does not happen. Bosh, Kobe and Gasol on the same team is depressing.

[RAcker]

Not scared.

[jambr380]

I dont really know how anyone could argue against this deal making the Lakers better... Bosh over Bynum? Seriously? This would instantly make the Lakers the front runners by incredible lengths. Thats an absurd lineup and they would be silly not to do that trade.

Bosh is really really good. Sure, he may have had a lot of undeserved acclaim after his rookie year, but he has really made a decent leap this year. Just a couple of months ago, there were many people on this board that were considering a Garnett for Bosh trade (hypothetically- thinking about our future). Garnett is a much better player than Bynum. The Lakers have always done well when Bynum has been out. Losing him and adding a pseudo-superstar like Bosh would really make them pretty amazing.

[Neurotic Guy]

Bosh is seriously overrated.  And Bynum is a much better fit with Bargnani.

There is only one ball.  The Lakers do not need another scorer.  They need defense and rebounding, neither of which Gasol supplies.

The Lakers also need a better bench.  That's where they should focus their efforts at the deadline, not on Bosh.

Bosh is a better rebounder then Bynum, by both totals and rate.  Bosh is a better passer then Bynum.  Bosh is a better scorer, from pretty much everywhere, then Bynum.  Neither guy is a great defender, but I'd actually take Bosh at this point in their careers.  Bynum is as soft as a box of tissues and he is always hurt.

Bosh is a significant upgrade for the Lakers given their current ability and given the Lakers current situation, that should be their goal.  

I'd assume Farmar would also go to Toronto and perhaps a draft pick making it a bit better for them.  

I agree.  Bosh is better than Bynum.  This trade would change the match-up dynamics, but not sure it's for the better from our perspective.  Lakers would have 3 guys who -- on any other team -- would require double teams to contain.  Like the big 3 in 2007-8 there would be someone open, or able to exploit a mismatch, on every play.  I'm not saying we couldn't compete with them, but I am saying I think they'd be harder to stop with Bosh than Bynum.  But, I think Toronto would be taking a huge risk as I don't think Bynum has shown anything to suggest he can lead a team. And I would think they'd want to see him get through at least one season without a significant injury.

[D Dub]

Bosh is seriously overrated.  And Bynum is a much better fit with Bargnani.

There is only one ball.  The Lakers do not need another scorer.  They need defense and rebounding, neither of which Gasol supplies.

The Lakers also need a better bench.  That's where they should focus their efforts at the deadline, not on Bosh.

Bosh is a better rebounder then Bynum, by both totals and rate.  Bosh is a better passer then Bynum.  Bosh is a better scorer, from pretty much everywhere, then Bynum.  Neither guy is a great defender, but I'd actually take Bosh at this point in their careers.  Bynum is as soft as a box of tissues and he is always hurt.

Bosh is a significant upgrade for the Lakers given their current ability and given the Lakers current situation, that should be their goal.  

I'd assume Farmar would also go to Toronto and perhaps a draft pick making it a bit better for them.  

I agree.  Bosh is better than Bynum.  This trade would change the match-up dynamics, but not sure it's for the better from our perspective.  Lakers would have 3 guys who -- on any other team -- would require double teams to contain.  Like the big 3 in 2007-8 there would be someone open, or able to exploit a mismatch, on every play.  I'm not saying we couldn't compete with them, but I am saying I think they'd be harder to stop with Bosh than Bynum.  But, I think Toronto would be taking a huge risk as I don't think Bynum has shown anything to suggest he can lead a team. And I would think they'd want to see him get through at least one season without a significant injury.

I'm going to have to agree with Brickowski on this one.  In a vacuum, Bosh is the better player; but he is grossly overrated, extremely soft and prone to disappear at crunch time.  For all his acclaim, has he ever had a good playoff series?

Despite their increased 'talent', I think we'd match up better with them.  Perk absolutely abused Gasol in the Finals when he had to play Center full time.  With Bynum at 5, and Gasol at his natural 4 spot, they are a lot tougher in the paint. 

Their lack of toughness up front was the main reason we hung number 17.  Swapping Bynum for Bosh would restore them to their 08' charmin-soft state, imo.  We would grossly outrebound them and be able to dicate our pace because of that huge advantage on the glass.

[Moranis]

Bosh is seriously overrated.  And Bynum is a much better fit with Bargnani.

There is only one ball.  The Lakers do not need another scorer.  They need defense and rebounding, neither of which Gasol supplies.

The Lakers also need a better bench.  That's where they should focus their efforts at the deadline, not on Bosh.

Bosh is a better rebounder then Bynum, by both totals and rate.  Bosh is a better passer then Bynum.  Bosh is a better scorer, from pretty much everywhere, then Bynum.  Neither guy is a great defender, but I'd actually take Bosh at this point in their careers.  Bynum is as soft as a box of tissues and he is always hurt.

Bosh is a significant upgrade for the Lakers given their current ability and given the Lakers current situation, that should be their goal.  

I'd assume Farmar would also go to Toronto and perhaps a draft pick making it a bit better for them.  

I agree.  Bosh is better than Bynum.  This trade would change the match-up dynamics, but not sure it's for the better from our perspective.  Lakers would have 3 guys who -- on any other team -- would require double teams to contain.  Like the big 3 in 2007-8 there would be someone open, or able to exploit a mismatch, on every play.  I'm not saying we couldn't compete with them, but I am saying I think they'd be harder to stop with Bosh than Bynum.  But, I think Toronto would be taking a huge risk as I don't think Bynum has shown anything to suggest he can lead a team. And I would think they'd want to see him get through at least one season without a significant injury.

I'm going to have to agree with Brickowski on this one.  In a vacuum, Bosh is the better player; but he is grossly overrated, extremely soft and prone to disappear at crunch time.  For all his acclaim, has he ever had a good playoff series?

Despite their increased 'talent', I think we'd match up better with them.  Perk absolutely abused Gasol in the Finals when he had to play Center full time.  With Bynum at 5, and Gasol at his natural 4 spot, they are a lot tougher in the paint. 

Their lack of toughness up front was the main reason we hung number 17.  Swapping Bynum for Bosh would restore them to their 08' charmin-soft state, imo.  We would grossly outrebound them and be able to dicate our pace because of that huge advantage on the glass.

Bosh has been in two playoff series (11 games).  His first series his numbers were ok, but in his second he actually preformed better then during the regular season.  Given the competition increase overall he has performed well in the post-season.  His teams just suck and that isn't Bosh's fault.

And if you want to talk about soft, Bynum is soft.  He gets absoutely dominated by Perk.  Much more so then Bynum does.  If anything Bosh is much more a matchup problem because the Lakers would force Perk (or Shaq if it is the Cavs) to guard someone on the perimeter since Gasol and Bosh would play much of the game together.  And it isn't like Perk would really make either work on the defensive end.    This trade would make the Lakers much more formidable.

[BballTim]

And it isn't like Perk would really make either work on the defensive end.    This trade would make the Lakers much more formidable.

  I'd have no qualms about having Perk go 1v1 against Pau or Bosh. Are either of them going to keep him from getting to any spot he wants? Are either going to stop Shaq? It works both ways.

[moiso]

That trade would give LA three of the top 10 or 12 players in the league.  And they'd still have plenty of role players.

  Do they have plenty of role players now?

Artest and Odom are two of the best.  They aren't especially deep though.

[acieEarl]

Yeap. If they don't trade Bosh they are likely to get nothing. So even if Bosh is better then Bynum it still be a solid move for Toronto.

Bosh for Bynum is a good deal for Toronto, not the Lakers.

[Junkyard Dawg]

does anybody think bosh and gasol are very similar players? 

I think this trade does make LA better against most teams, and certainly it adds a legit scoring threat but I have to think the matchups still favor the C's other than Kobe vs. Ray.

[BballTim]

That trade would give LA three of the top 10 or 12 players in the league.  And they'd still have plenty of role players.

  Do they have plenty of role players now?

Artest and Odom are two of the best.  They aren't especially deep though.

  The problem is Artest usally doesn't stay happy as a role player. Bynym takes about 11 shots a game and Bosh takes 16. Either those shots will come from somewhere or Bosh's production will slip. What you have to watch out for is that they're trading 16/8 (Bynum) for 24/11 (Bosh). What you might end up with is 18/9 for Bosh and 20/11 for Bynum after the switch.

[Moranis]

That trade would give LA three of the top 10 or 12 players in the league.  And they'd still have plenty of role players.

  Do they have plenty of role players now?

Artest and Odom are two of the best.  They aren't especially deep though.

  The problem is Artest usally doesn't stay happy as a role player. Bynym takes about 11 shots a game and Bosh takes 16. Either those shots will come from somewhere or Bosh's production will slip. What you have to watch out for is that they're trading 16/8 (Bynum) for 24/11 (Bosh). What you might end up with is 18/9 for Bosh and 20/11 for Bynum after the switch.

isn't 18/9 better then 16/8.  It would seem like a no brainer.