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Wiggle -- are you really not picking or did i miss it?
Quote from: ChampKind on February 03, 2010, 05:10:23 PMOn Granger and Hibbert:As a Pacers season ticket holder, I think I am qualified to discuss. Granger is the real deal, showcased by his crunch time scoring. He can defend three positions, rebounds well, and can score from anywhere. However, he has regressed this year - he's less aggressive and settles for too many threes. It's possible that he's devolving into Antoine Jr., but unlikely. Simply put, Granger is a player you can build a franchise around - he'll put up 25-6-3 a night, and will fill any role that is asked of him. You can say the same thing about Odom, only he'll give you less production at a higher age.Secondly, your assessment of Hibbert is one-dimensional. His post defense isn't great, but his post scoring shows loads of potential. He has an arsenal of moves in the post (all ugly) that are effective, and is an excellent help defender. While solid bigs will abuse him defensively, he's a legit starting center with the potential to be a top 15 big man. Unfortunately, he's inconsistent and fouls too often, and does need to put on weight - but he's a 7'2" center with a smooth jumper and good shot blocking instincts. Everyone in Indiana considers him a building block, along with Granger. Conversely, no one has considered Odom a foundation piece since his time in Miami.Even more importantly, you traded away a cheap, rising player at a position of extreme need for a pick where big men are going to be scarce. That part is tough to justify.So props for going ahead with a gutsy trade and having the nuts to stick your neck out there, but I don't think you got the best of this deal.Champ -- is Obie really trying to make Granger a PF? I read some things where Granger was admitting that it was taking it's toll on him.
On Granger and Hibbert:As a Pacers season ticket holder, I think I am qualified to discuss. Granger is the real deal, showcased by his crunch time scoring. He can defend three positions, rebounds well, and can score from anywhere. However, he has regressed this year - he's less aggressive and settles for too many threes. It's possible that he's devolving into Antoine Jr., but unlikely. Simply put, Granger is a player you can build a franchise around - he'll put up 25-6-3 a night, and will fill any role that is asked of him. You can say the same thing about Odom, only he'll give you less production at a higher age.Secondly, your assessment of Hibbert is one-dimensional. His post defense isn't great, but his post scoring shows loads of potential. He has an arsenal of moves in the post (all ugly) that are effective, and is an excellent help defender. While solid bigs will abuse him defensively, he's a legit starting center with the potential to be a top 15 big man. Unfortunately, he's inconsistent and fouls too often, and does need to put on weight - but he's a 7'2" center with a smooth jumper and good shot blocking instincts. Everyone in Indiana considers him a building block, along with Granger. Conversely, no one has considered Odom a foundation piece since his time in Miami.Even more importantly, you traded away a cheap, rising player at a position of extreme need for a pick where big men are going to be scarce. That part is tough to justify.So props for going ahead with a gutsy trade and having the nuts to stick your neck out there, but I don't think you got the best of this deal.
And they would also like to send "Waddles" another TP for not picking him once their able to send another "karma action" in about an hour or so!!!
Thank you Commissioner. The Draft Dodgers are excited to welcome the Niagara Falls' product to our team. His still developing 3PT shot isn't too great a concern considering it gets awfully windy in the rail yard.
Quote from: Gomesfan on February 03, 2010, 05:25:27 PMAnd they would also like to send "Waddles" another TP for not picking him once their able to send another "karma action" in about an hour or so!!!Then you'll be even happier to know that Hawes was going to be our pick if the Flynn/Conley trade fell apart, for the sole purpose of trading him!(Either because we have a starting center or because his politics won't fly in Brooklyn.)
We may need a replacement for the Toaster. This could be a 2nd missed pick.
So I think the Suns are shaping up in the southwest!PG:Mo' WilliamsSG:Kevin MartinSF:Andre IguodalaPF:Amar'e Stoudamire C:Spencer Hawes
