The Pick Two Draft Thread

[The Walker Wiggle]

I don't expect battier to stay his SG. That trade pretty much solidifies every other position.

He's also going to need to add a solid back-up center since Hibbert is 7th in the league in fouls per minute. But clearly he got a king's ransom from the Pacers.

[Slugger]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

[wdleehi]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

You killed your team.


You went the older, less talented route.   You got terrible value for your players.

[crownsy]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

The pick is really a 6th though. We have two protected starters.

so in essence you traded hibbert and granger for odom and a 6th round pick.

I don't agree that that's equivalent. Even if the trade was Granger for Odom and a 4th, I'd say the team getting granger is a far better deal.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt untill i see what the pick brings you, but i really think your not going to find anything like equivalent talent for granger in the (for all intents and purposes) 6th round pick in a league wide draft.

I also agree with WDL, where are you going to find players of caliber to pair with odom to take advantage of his supposed versatility?

Right now Odom is supposed to carry your team. I don't think he's even remotely capable of doing that without a supporting cast.

[Slugger]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

You killed your team.


You went the older, less talented route.   You got terrible value for your players.

Terrible.....terrible is Roy Hibbert.  Sure he's raw, but he has no future as a starting calibre big man.

Also, why do people rate Danny Granger so highly?

I would have loved to get Gasol off you - Will you take Dalembert  

I should have shopped around for other deals, but Lamar Odom suits any team.  Danny doesnt.

[crownsy]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

You killed your team.


You went the older, less talented route.   You got terrible value for your players.

Terrible.....terrible is Roy Hibbert.  Sure he's raw, but he has no future as a starting calibre big man.

Also, why do people rate Danny Granger so highly?

I would have loved to get Gasol off you - Will you take Dalembert  

I should have shopped around for other deals, but Lamar Odom suits any team.  Danny doesnt.

People rate danny granger so highly because he's one of the better SF's in the league and he's 24 with huge upside.

[PLamb]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

I think your assessment that Granger isn't that young at 26 but that you are trading him for a 30 year old is kind of strange

Granger is an All Star, Odom never
Granger will be one of the game best scorers for the next 6 years, Odom was never a great scorer
Granger is now almost a franchise type player, Odom is most effective coming off the bench

[Slugger]

Since this draft isn't being graded, I'm going to sign off on it.  If this were the CB draft, though, this one would be vetoed, without question.

Indiana (Slugger) sends Danny Granger and Roy Hibbert to

Utah (Slamtheking) for Lamar Odom and Utah's 4th round pick.

Ugh. Great trade for utah, awful value for granger.

how come my one sided trade proposals get laughed out of the building?

Please -  firstly Roy Hibbert is a string bean - cannot move my mother out of the low post and has poor lateral movement.  He is not even worth trading for a 7th rounder in my mind.

Danny Granger - this is a bit tougher to justify...

Firstly, he is a good scorer.  However, he isnt all that young (26), is injury prone, and to be honest i dont think he's all that explosive.

He was an all-star last year, but simply due to the fact he was in the east.  I dont think he's really the most valuable on his team.

I think people are looking at his scoring numbers without actually assessing the whole picture.

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

I believe these reasons, plus the added value of trading (in effect) Roy Hibbert for a 4th pick, are good reasons.

Comments welcome

The pick is really a 6th though. We have two protected starters.

so in essence you traded hibbert and granger for odom and a 6th round pick.

I don't agree that that's equivalent. Even if the trade was Granger for Odom and a 4th, I'd say the team getting granger is a far better deal.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt untill i see what the pick brings you, but i really think your not going to find anything like equivalent talent for granger in the (for all intents and purposes) 6th round pick in a league wide draft.

Fair enough.  I am still looking to swing some deals - havent finished yet.  I just think Odom has more value than Granger - as stated by my previous postings.  TP's to those who disagree though - i dont mind backing up my reasons  

[KCattheStripe]

The Bulls have decided to make Edgar happy twice. A) We're picking now. B) Our line up is going big...


The Bulls select the French sensation Bori... Just kidding... Nicolas Batum

[Lucky17]

I'd have asked after an Odom-for-Hibbert swap. Odom alongside Granger would make a nice combination.

[crownsy]

I'd have asked after an Odom-for-Hibbert swap. Odom alongside Granger would make a nice combination.

that would have been ideal.

In order to have odom bring anything equivalent to what he's bringing to the lakers you need teammates who he can make better.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Lamar Odom to me has just as much value as Danny Granger.  Without him, no way are the Lakers as good.  He is a versatile 3-4 man that can put the ball on the floor, post up his man, is a fantastic passer, can lead the break, can spell your PG of ball-handling duties, and has a hot girlfriend.

Well, the Lakers would be better with Granger as their 6th man than Odom, so that seems a specious argument.

So is the argument that Granger is injury prone, since over his career he's averaged nearly 10 games more a season than Odom, and is four years younger.

[Slugger]

I'd have asked after an Odom-for-Hibbert swap. Odom alongside Granger would make a nice combination.

I'm wondering if people are just going off Grangers stats, and also the hatred for everything that is L.A

[Lucky17]

The Bulls have decided to make Edgar happy twice. A) We're picking now. B) Our line up is going big...


The Bulls select the French sensation Bori... Just kidding... Nicolas Batum

Along with Casspi, he was the other SF I was considering if I were going the young route.

[Edgar]

Small ball for me

RIP

and one more player this round
what will it be Shard future
PF or SF

My Boy Andre Miller
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