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Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2010, 09:28:23 PM »

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If this is Rondo's team, we are in trouble.

TP.

Generally, you lose the keys when you're driving poorly. Rondo didn't initiate a thing in the last half of the fourth quarter. I definitely would have put the ball in someone else's hands.

Guess what the outcome was Celtics lost. Celtics lost to Atlanta cause Rondo wasn't involved at all. For Rondo to be effective he needs the ball. Him standing around waiting for the ball backfired big time. Give him the ball and hold him accountable. 

Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2010, 09:29:02 PM »

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Today, it was Rondo's team on offense.


The next night, it could be someone else's.  


The Celtics need to just start ridding what works in a particular game.  

  They still need to run the ball through Rondo.

  The Celts love to let Paul bring the ball up the court or have Rondo give it to him right over half court. So Paul goes into his offense into the teeth of the defense, which is set up to stop him. When Rondo brings the ball up and passes it to Paul, he has an easier time scoring because the defense is spread out more. Rondo doesn't need to dominate the ball or take the most shots but I'd say the offense runs better when he starts things.

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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2010, 09:29:11 PM »

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If this is Rondo's team, we are in trouble.

TP.

Generally, you lose the keys when you're driving poorly. Rondo didn't initiate a thing in the last half of the fourth quarter. I definitely would have put the ball in someone else's hands.
Last half of the fourth quarter the offense flowed through Pierce half the time and there was absolutely no movement whatsoever

No movement

Rondo dribbled and everyone stood still and waited

The offense just stopped the last 4 minutes of the game or ran through Pierce

It was awful
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Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2010, 09:30:12 PM »

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Today, it was Rondo's team on offense.


The next night, it could be someone else's.  


The Celtics need to just start ridding what works in a particular game.  

  They still need to run the ball through Rondo.

  The Celts love to let Paul bring the ball up the court or have Rondo give it to him right over half court. So Paul goes into his offense into the teeth of the defense, which is set up to stop him. When Rondo brings the ball up and passes it to Paul, he has an easier time scoring because the defense is spread out more. Rondo doesn't need to dominate the ball or take the most shots but I'd say the offense runs better when he starts things.

And other nights, they need to run the ball through KG hands in the low post.



The Celtics do not have one way and only one way to run the offense.  (no matter what they seem to think at the end of games)

Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2010, 09:36:42 PM »

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This team is Rondo's whenever he wants it. Tonight, for example, it was his. I see no struggle of who is going to "The Man." If Rondo wants it, he can have it, and he should have it because I think only more good things will happen.

Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2010, 09:41:13 PM »

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Today, it was Rondo's team on offense.


The next night, it could be someone else's.  


The Celtics need to just start ridding what works in a particular game.  

  They still need to run the ball through Rondo.

  The Celts love to let Paul bring the ball up the court or have Rondo give it to him right over half court. So Paul goes into his offense into the teeth of the defense, which is set up to stop him. When Rondo brings the ball up and passes it to Paul, he has an easier time scoring because the defense is spread out more. Rondo doesn't need to dominate the ball or take the most shots but I'd say the offense runs better when he starts things.

And other nights, they need to run the ball through KG hands in the low post.



The Celtics do not have one way and only one way to run the offense.  (no matter what they seem to think at the end of games)

  Sure, they can run the ball through KG on the post, but that's not what I'm talking about. There's a difference between getting the ball to KG on the block and giving the ball to Paul 40 feet from the basket and  having him try and score.

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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2010, 09:41:46 PM »

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If this is Rondo's team, we are in trouble.

TP.

Generally, you lose the keys when you're driving poorly. Rondo didn't initiate a thing in the last half of the fourth quarter. I definitely would have put the ball in someone else's hands.

Guess what the outcome was Celtics lost. Celtics lost to Atlanta cause Rondo wasn't involved at all. For Rondo to be effective he needs the ball. Him standing around waiting for the ball backfired big time. Give him the ball and hold him accountable. 

Totally disagree with this.

This is a really simple discussion: When Rondo is aggressive and attacking with the basketball, this offense works well.

When he quits attacking and starts pounding the ball at the top of the key, the offense stops and the ball has to be taken out of his hands - as it was late in the fourth quarter tonight.

At some point, Rondo's got to learn that he has to bring it for 48 minutes every night for this team to succeed. He doesn't bring it every night, and that's a huge problem.
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Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2010, 09:43:50 PM »

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OK I said it.

Rondo should be the main focus of this team. No disrespect to Pierce, KG, or Ray. Big-3 should to take a back seat and become complimentary players to Rondo. Banner #18 will be won with Rondo leading the way. Give him the REAL key to the ferrari, and hold him accountable.

I agree.

Does anyone here think that Doc had him in Attack Mode in the first half? Then told him to change it up in the 2nd? He seemed like a different player in the 2nd half.

You all think Doc had anything to do with it?

Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2010, 09:46:48 PM »

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If this is Rondo's team, we are in trouble.

TP.

Generally, you lose the keys when you're driving poorly. Rondo didn't initiate a thing in the last half of the fourth quarter. I definitely would have put the ball in someone else's hands.

Guess what the outcome was Celtics lost. Celtics lost to Atlanta cause Rondo wasn't involved at all. For Rondo to be effective he needs the ball. Him standing around waiting for the ball backfired big time. Give him the ball and hold him accountable. 

Totally disagree with this.

This is a really simple discussion: When Rondo is aggressive and attacking with the basketball, this offense works well.

When he quits attacking and starts pounding the ball at the top of the key, the offense stops and the ball has to be taken out of his hands - as it was late in the fourth quarter tonight.

At some point, Rondo's got to learn that he has to bring it for 48 minutes every night for this team to succeed. He doesn't bring it every night, and that's a huge problem.

I agree, TP. That's the one knock on Rondo. If he wants to reach Chris Paul level he must bring it every games. But he can't carry the load by himself. Ray needs to start hitting shots. Pierce Iso's has got to work better. Sheed should play in the box more. This team can improve on a lot of areas.

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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2010, 10:02:55 PM »

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If this is Rondo's team, we are in trouble.

TP.

Generally, you lose the keys when you're driving poorly. Rondo didn't initiate a thing in the last half of the fourth quarter. I definitely would have put the ball in someone else's hands.

Guess what the outcome was Celtics lost. Celtics lost to Atlanta cause Rondo wasn't involved at all. For Rondo to be effective he needs the ball. Him standing around waiting for the ball backfired big time. Give him the ball and hold him accountable. 

Totally disagree with this.

This is a really simple discussion: When Rondo is aggressive and attacking with the basketball, this offense works well.

When he quits attacking and starts pounding the ball at the top of the key, the offense stops and the ball has to be taken out of his hands - as it was late in the fourth quarter tonight.

At some point, Rondo's got to learn that he has to bring it for 48 minutes every night for this team to succeed. He doesn't bring it every night, and that's a huge problem.

Rondo isn't the kind of player who can attack all game yet.  He does his best work in a scattered field, where his speed is more of a factor than his lack of a jump shot.

And this isn't his team yet.  It's not as if Pierce and Ray are begging Rondo to attack while they make off-ball cuts or fade for kick-outs.  They want the ball in crunch time, like they have for their entire careers.

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Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2010, 10:08:14 PM »

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This is NOT Rondo's team.  And that is part of the problem.  He is really the only guy who can consistently take over games anymore, but for whatever reason, he is still deferring to the Big 3 down the stretch.  This needs to change if this team wants to compete, and it needs to change from the top (Doc), through the veterans, and finally with Rondo taking the reigns.

I am not saying we need to see full out "Rondo show" all the time, but Rondo needs to lead the charge to push the tempo ALL GAME, and take a larger role on the court, rather than sitting back, and hoping Ray, Paul, or KG do it.

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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2010, 10:20:18 PM »

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 this is coming from a guy who used to be a Rondo basher but I have really grown on this guy and when he is playing well, we win. Simple as that. Last year in the first round of the playoffs, he was the main reason we were able to keep up with the Bulls. Today, he single handledly kept us in the game. I believe that this summer should be the offseason when we transition from the big 3 era to the Rondo & Co. Era. Surround him with an athletic pf who can catch his alley oops (something that could be really effective) and a shooter. Add Perk to the picture and a complementary bench and we have a WIDE window for winning championships

Re: This is Rondo's Team. THE END
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2010, 10:29:13 PM »

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If this is Rondo's team, we are in trouble.

TP.

Generally, you lose the keys when you're driving poorly. Rondo didn't initiate a thing in the last half of the fourth quarter. I definitely would have put the ball in someone else's hands.

Guess what the outcome was Celtics lost. Celtics lost to Atlanta cause Rondo wasn't involved at all. For Rondo to be effective he needs the ball. Him standing around waiting for the ball backfired big time. Give him the ball and hold him accountable. 

Totally disagree with this.

This is a really simple discussion: When Rondo is aggressive and attacking with the basketball, this offense works well.

When he quits attacking and starts pounding the ball at the top of the key, the offense stops and the ball has to be taken out of his hands - as it was late in the fourth quarter tonight.

At some point, Rondo's got to learn that he has to bring it for 48 minutes every night for this team to succeed. He doesn't bring it every night, and that's a huge problem.

  Totally disagree with this. The coaches want the big three to carry the team's offense down the stretch. Rondo tries to get them the ball instead of attacking. When "the ball has to be taken out of Rondo's hands" the offense generally falters - as it did late in the fourth quarter tonight. Hence the loss.