I am not for trading Ray but...

[WeMadeIt17]

I was on the Detroit board at Realgm.com and saw that they would do a Ray for Prince and Rip deal. Now i am not a guy that usually says trade one of our core players away but how about we do

Ray, Scal, and Williams

For

Rip,Prince, and Maxiell

How would you feel with something like that?

[fanofgreen]

Not messing with the best starting 5 in the L, with the best chemistry in the league.

Not messing with the starting 5 that won the championship

The thing thats different from the championship year and this year is the bench. not the starting 5 and not the coaching staff,  the bench. All transactions between now, and the  trade deadline, should be to better our bench.

I'm not touching the starters

[Mad Hatter]

TP, fanofgreen. we need a better bench.

[dark_lord]

im not one for the idea of trading ray, rather i would keep him and let his contract run out.  after the season, decide whats best for the team and go from there.

however......

i really like this deal and would seriously consider it.

[dlpin]

Given how Rip has sucked at the 3 point shot this season, and how he and Prince have been injured so often this season, this trade would absolutely kill floor spacing and not add much.

And, in the end, we'd still be a team that would need KG back to realistically have a shot.

[WeMadeIt17]

I am saying we need a better bench too but would Prince off the bench not be an upgrade?

[BballTim]

  Maybe we should have a poll. Great starting five or better bench?

  I'll go with the guys that'll be playing 38 minutes a game in the playoffs.

[fanofgreen]

im not one for the idea of trading ray, rather i would keep him and let his contract run out.  after the season, decide whats best for the team and go from there.

however......

i really like this deal and would seriously consider it.

[federico]

Not messing with the best starting 5 in the L, with the best chemistry in the league.

Not messing with the starting 5 that won the championship

The thing thats different from the championship year and this year is the bench. not the starting 5 and not the coaching staff,  the bench. All transactions between now, and the  trade deadline, should be to better our bench.

I'm not touching the starters

We can't improve for real our bench without givin up a starter, and Ray is the best that we can offer (except for Pierce, but he is untouchable!); i don't like this trade because the players proposed are aged and always injured, but i think that we need a change in our roster, especially because age and lack of athleticism (and injury, ok..) are becoming a factor in our losses when we are opposed to teams like ,for example, Atlanta and Chicago.

[fanofgreen]

Not messing with the best starting 5 in the L, with the best chemistry in the league.

Not messing with the starting 5 that won the championship

The thing thats different from the championship year and this year is the bench. not the starting 5 and not the coaching staff,  the bench. All transactions between now, and the  trade deadline, should be to better our bench.

I'm not touching the starters

We can't improve for real our bench without givin up a starter, and Ray is the best that we can offer (except for Pierce, but he is untouchable!); i don't like this trade because the players proposed are aged and always injured, but i think that we need a change in our roster, especially because age and lack of athleticism (and injury, ok..) are becoming a factor in our losses when we are opposed to teams like ,for example, Atlanta and Chicago.

I believe,We can improve our bench without giving up a starter.

we can trade for Sasha Pavlovic (better than Scal and JR, maybe Billy, more offensively gifted than Tony)

We can trade for Keyon Dooling (better than Eddie House, Jr, Scal, Tony, Billy)
[or we can wait ans see if he gets bought out]

We can sign Sean Williams (athleticism on the front line, something that Scal/Shelden/Baby will never be able to bring to this team.) athleticism is what could be used against the Atl's and Chicago's like you said.

We can also try and trade for Dominic McGuire (athleticism on the front line also)

There are ways we can strengthen our bench without giving up a starter . We dont need a complete retooling, we need to change out the parts that are ineffective with parts that bring effectiveness in areas where we are weak.

Sasha's contract is something like $1.5 for 1 year
McGuires contract is $825k for 1 year
Sean Williams is currently a free agent
Dooling is $3.2 for 2 years.

we dont have to get all of these, guys but at least 2.

but this is more of a suggestion or an example of the things we can do w/o tearing up our starting 5

[PosImpos]

No, mainly because Tay and Rip are old and clearly on their way to being washed up.

[wdleehi]

If those two can pass a physical, yes, I would make this trade. 

[moiso]

No way.  Those two are both hurt and Hamilton looks washed up.  Have you guys checked out their numbers?  Rip is shooting 38% from the field and 21% from 3.  Prince is average 8pts, 3 rebounds and shooting 42%from the field and 21% from 3.  Just horrible.  These guys are declining way faster than Ray.  That deal would be just horrible.  Sometimes I think Celts fans live a few years in the past when it comes to guys on other teams since we don't see them very often.

[jdub1660]

Not messing with the best starting 5 in the L, with the best chemistry in the league.

Not messing with the starting 5 that won the championship

The thing thats different from the championship year and this year is the bench. not the starting 5 and not the coaching staff,  the bench. All transactions between now, and the  trade deadline, should be to better our bench.

I'm not touching the starters

We can't improve for real our bench without givin up a starter, and Ray is the best that we can offer (except for Pierce, but he is untouchable!); i don't like this trade because the players proposed are aged and always injured, but i think that we need a change in our roster, especially because age and lack of athleticism (and injury, ok..) are becoming a factor in our losses when we are opposed to teams like ,for example, Atlanta and Chicago.

I believe,We can improve our bench without giving up a starter.

we can trade for Sasha Pavlovic (better than Scal and JR, maybe Billy, more offensively gifted than Tony)

We can trade for Keyon Dooling (better than Eddie House, Jr, Scal, Tony, Billy)
[or we can wait ans see if he gets bought out]

We can sign Sean Williams (athleticism on the front line, something that Scal/Shelden/Baby will never be able to bring to this team.) athleticism is what could be used against the Atl's and Chicago's like you said.

We can also try and trade for Dominic McGuire (athleticism on the front line also)

There are ways we can strengthen our bench without giving up a starter . We dont need a complete retooling, we need to change out the parts that are ineffective with parts that bring effectiveness in areas where we are weak.

Sasha's contract is something like $1.5 for 1 year
McGuires contract is $825k for 1 year
Sean Williams is currently a free agent
Dooling is $3.2 for 2 years.

we dont have to get all of these, guys but at least 2.

but this is more of a suggestion or an example of the things we can do w/o tearing up our starting 5

I really would like to get Damien Wilkins along with Sasha. Both give us youth, athleticism, and talent. Plus the options of having them play G and F...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjyzfpf

Throw in draft picks for each team and its done.
We would then have 2 open roster spots to sign a couple bigs and our championship squad would be complete. IMO

[Roy Hobbs]

This is one of the few Ray trade ideas I think I'd pull the trigger on, but I'm not sure Detroit would move both guys solely for expirings.

Wouldn't they be better off packaging them each in separate deals, trying to pick up some assets along with them?