I am not for trading Ray but...

[Chief]

I'd start Tony and let the Pistons (Rasheed, Rip, and Prince) come off the bench.

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I don't like it.  I know that the three we'd get might be better than the 3 we give up, but I don't think that matters that much.  Sure, Maxiell's a nice player but has ZERO value to a team that has Perk, KG, Wallace, and BBD.  BBD is going to have a tough enough time finding playoff minutes.  There's no way that we're finding minutes for a 5th big. 

And while a Hamilton/Prince combo SEEMS nice, when you actually look at a playoff series minutes breakdown, the value diminishes.  I mean, would you rather have 38 mpg of Pierce, 38 mpg of Ray, and 20 mpg of Marquis Daniels, or 38 mpg of Pierce, 32 mpg of Rip, and 26 mpg of Prince?  Sure, Prince likely presents an upgrade over Daniels, but doesn't Hamilton also present a downgrade compared to Ray?  And wouldn't this also make our starting five weaker, which is ultimately going to win us a game in a tight playoff matchup?

The only way I trade Ray is if another team is going to give up an elite player that can take Ray's spot.  This trade-Ray-for-depth nonsense is just that. 

Agreed, to a point.  It wouldn't necessarily have to be for another SG, IMO.

Ray for Big Al, Brewer, and Gomes, or for K.Martin and Udrich or whatever his name is...deadline deal salary dumps for younger talent to carry us past the KG era.

[Change]

The only guy that is worth trading Ray for is Kevin Martin. Even Kevin MArtin alone isn't enough. Add Beno Udrih or Andres Nocioni and you got a deal.

[BballTim]

The only guy that is worth trading Ray for is Kevin Martin. Even Kevin MArtin alone isn't enough. Add Beno Udrih or Andres Nocioni and you got a deal.

  Are Nocioni and Udrih supposed to make the trade better or worse for us?

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Not worth breaking up the starting 5 for.  

I don't think Rip could match Ray's current production, much less last year's. Tay would be nice off the bench if he could stay healthy, but he's not much of an impact player.

If we're going to trade Ray it should be to patch some of the big holes on the team: a combo guard who can play D to push the House/TA combo further to the bench, a quick forward who can rebound and someone who can get to the basket off the bench.

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Several Ray-related threads going.

Could someone who is A) more familiar with the trade checker, and B) knows how to use make the poll think work create a "hypothetical trades for Ray" thread?  It seems like many folks would get misty eyed, but let him go for the right pieces, and there are quite a few possible scenarios.  Since he's at the end of the trail, financially strapped teams are likely targets...