BOS / CHI trade idea (Salmons)

[Roy Hobbs]

BOS trades:  Tony, Scal, Giddens

CHI trades:  Salmons, Pargo

Why for Boston?  We get an impact player in Salmons, who can play both SG and SF.  Pargo would give us another option at backup PG, although not a great one.

Why for Chicago?  Clearing Salmons' salary next season would allow them the cap space to sign Wade, Bosh, Joe Johnson, or another star player.

Of course, I doubt Chicago would be psyched by bringing TA back to Chi-town.

[Donoghus]

I'm not too sure that Chicago would do this.

They've seemed to righted the ship a bit lately.  Playing a little bit better since the noose tightened around Del Negro's neck.

Also, one of Chicago's weaknesses this year has been offense.  They'd be trading two guys on their roster that can score the basket and getting almost nothing in return.  Despite their early woes, I think they're going to be a playoff team when all is said and done. 

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm not too sure that Chicago would do this.

They've seemed to righted the ship a bit lately.  Playing a little bit better since the noose tightened around Del Negro's neck.

Also, one of Chicago's weaknesses this year has been offense.  They'd be trading two guys on their roster that can score the basket and getting almost nothing in return.  Despite their early woes, I think they're going to be a playoff team when all is said and done. 

Well, I don't think it's fair to say they're giving up two players, and getting back none; Tony has been way more productive than Pargo, and arguably more productive than Salmons.

Link.

Chicago's motivation comes purely from a standpoint of cap relief.  They can trade either Salmons or Hinrich to get enough cap space to sign a max player.

[Who]

I'm not sure about John Salmons. His play has been very poor compared to last season and he has always struggled without a lot of touches/shot attempts.

Also, he has tunnel vision offensively once he has the ball in his hands and only thinks about jacking up a shot. Poor passer. Not much of a rebounder. He is a solid defender though.

I do think the Bulls would be interested in this type of trade. They need to trade Salmons in order to ensure they can offer a max contract to someone.

[Donoghus]

I'm not too sure that Chicago would do this.

They've seemed to righted the ship a bit lately.  Playing a little bit better since the noose tightened around Del Negro's neck.

Also, one of Chicago's weaknesses this year has been offense.  They'd be trading two guys on their roster that can score the basket and getting almost nothing in return.  Despite their early woes, I think they're going to be a playoff team when all is said and done. 

Well, I don't think it's fair to say they're giving up two players, and getting back none; Tony has been way more productive than Pargo, and arguably more productive than Salmons.

Link.

Chicago's motivation comes purely from a standpoint of cap relief.  They can trade either Salmons or Hinrich to get enough cap space to sign a max player.

I see what you're saying about the salary cap relief standpoint of things.  That may be enough of a reason that Chicago would do it.  However, they're still competitive enough where I think trading Salmons and Pargo for our package is taking a step backwards if they have any intent of doing anything this year on the court. 

[Fafnir]

I'd rather have Hinrich, but he costs an extra 11 million and has an extra year.

I could live with Salmons, though I'm not sure how much of an upgrade over Tony he'd be.

[BballTim]

  Salmons has been pretty disappointing this year. His numbers are way down from last year.

[Roy Hobbs]

I could live with Salmons, though I'm not sure how much of an upgrade over Tony he'd be.

I like Salmons because he's capable of playing SF, and he's a better shooter and a better scorer than Tony; Salmons possesses the ability to score 30 points in a playoff game, whereas Tony is more limited.  Plus, he's a more cerebral player than Tony, even if that's not a strength.

[Roy Hobbs]

  Salmons has been pretty disappointing this year. His numbers are way down from last year.

I think those are the types of players that will be available at the trade deadline.  If a player had a reasonable salary and no flaws, we wouldn't have a chance at him.  If we're going to upgrade via trade, it's probably going to take a marginal gamble.

Also, Salmons' numbers are down, but he's still having an okay year.

[Donoghus]

I could live with Salmons, though I'm not sure how much of an upgrade over Tony he'd be.

I like Salmons because he's a better shooter and a better scorer than Tony; Salmons possesses the ability to score 30 points in a playoff game, whereas Tony is more limited.  Plus, he's a more cerebral player than Tony, even if that's not a strength.

He would be an upgrade on TA.

[wdleehi]

I'm not sure about John Salmons. His play has been very poor compared to last season and he has always struggled without a lot of touches/shot attempts.

Also, he has tunnel vision offensively once he has the ball in his hands and only thinks about jacking up a shot. Poor passer. Not much of a rebounder. He is a solid defender though.

I do think the Bulls would be interested in this type of trade. They need to trade Salmons in order to ensure they can offer a max contract to someone.

I think one of the big differences is the differences of how team guard him when he is out there with Rose and Gordon vs. Rose and Deng.  I think he has drawn more attention.


I think put him out there with some of the Celtics stars, the pressure on him defensively could help spark his play.

[Drucci]

Salmons would definitely not be my first choice but I like this trade. Makes sense for both teams, and Salmons would be a good upgrade for us, although I'm a little bit concerned by lack of passing, and sometimes poor shooting (he has struggled a lot this year). But his contract and his talent would be a good addition, that wouldn't hurt our cap space so I like it better than the Hinrich deal.

[Who]

I'm not sure about John Salmons. His play has been very poor compared to last season and he has always struggled without a lot of touches/shot attempts.

Also, he has tunnel vision offensively once he has the ball in his hands and only thinks about jacking up a shot. Poor passer. Not much of a rebounder. He is a solid defender though.

I do think the Bulls would be interested in this type of trade. They need to trade Salmons in order to ensure they can offer a max contract to someone.

I think one of the big differences is the differences of how team guard him when he is out there with Rose and Gordon vs. Rose and Deng.  I think he has drawn more attention.


I think put him out there with some of the Celtics stars, the pressure on him defensively could help spark his play.

I agree with you on the Rose + Gordon vs Rose + Deng ...

But I'm not all convinced that Salmons will play better alongside Boston's players. I think it's a lot more likely (75-80%) than not, that Salmons performs in a comparable or worse manner than he has for the Bulls this season.

[jdub1660]

I posted a similar trade in a previous trade, except I included swapping BBD for Tyrus Thomas. Add in some conditional draft picks and I would take the trade. Thomas would be a better option at the 4 b/c it adds the oop to Rondos arsenal, plus his jumper is more reliable than BBDs. AND a better defender. Salmons obviously fills the void of SF and SG while Quis is hurt.
An added bonus to my trade idea is it opens up a roster spot or two to sign a vet PG and another C.

[Fafnir]

Thomas would be a better option at the 4 b/c it adds the oop to Rondos arsenal, plus his jumper is more reliable than BBDs.

Tyrus Thomas had an eFG% of .345 on 2 point jump shots last year. That's close to worst in the league for qualifying players. Both Glen Davis and Rondo had a better shooting percentage on 2 point jump shots.

Thomas has his virtues as a player, a reliable jump shot is not one of them. I don't think Chicago would do that deal either. They already are undersized enough and don't really need the elements that BBD adds.