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Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #75 on: January 18, 2010, 11:54:25 PM »

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I'm sitting on the fence. It all depends on KG if he doesn't figure it out and come back to something close to pre injury form we're done. Unless KG rediscovers his inner top 5-10 player, Yes the window is closed. I was feeling good until this recent injury which seems to be pretty serious. I definitely feel what Brick is saying. Unless your wearing the green tinted glasses it's hard to say that the window is still open.

Again, if it is green tinted glasses to say that the window is still opened, who are the real contenders?

The cavs, who'll need Lebron to play out of his mind because the rest of their front court sucks?

The magic, who are 2-6 over the last 8?

The lakers, who are having to play an ailing Kobe 39 minutes a game?


  You're missing the big picture. All of the other contenders are practically invincible, even though they're all losing as many games as we are. The Celts are clearly headed straight for the gutter.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #76 on: January 18, 2010, 11:59:15 PM »

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Nope...the Boston Celtics Championship window is open this year and Next Year. Wide Open.

We need to stay healthy, though...and even when missing key players the Celtics are a tough out.

We would have beat the Magic last year IF Powe was healthy, much less Garnett.

Unfortunately, most old teams don't stay healthy, which is the problem of being an old team.

Well, The Celtics are still Way better off than LA..Phil MUST play Kobe with a fractured finger...at least Doc won't hesistate to rest his players....

Can anyone here imagine the Lakers if Kobe sat for a few games, lol....that'd be a Comedy Central skit.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #77 on: January 19, 2010, 12:06:14 AM »

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I'm sitting on the fence. It all depends on KG if he doesn't figure it out and come back to something close to pre injury form we're done. Unless KG rediscovers his inner top 5-10 player, Yes the window is closed. I was feeling good until this recent injury which seems to be pretty serious. I definitely feel what Brick is saying. Unless your wearing the green tinted glasses it's hard to say that the window is still open.

Again, if it is green tinted glasses to say that the window is still opened, who are the real contenders?

The cavs, who'll need Lebron to play out of his mind because the rest of their front court sucks?

The magic, who are 2-6 over the last 8?

The lakers, who are having to play an ailing Kobe 39 minutes a game?

Relying on the fact that the others suck, too, just to make myself feel better for my own sucking is not at all a good tactic...
"Life has so many hurdles. Some of them I've hopped over, some of them I've tripped over. The key is to get back up and finish the race."- Paul Pierce

And he did finish...

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #78 on: January 19, 2010, 12:09:14 AM »

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I'm sitting on the fence. It all depends on KG if he doesn't figure it out and come back to something close to pre injury form we're done. Unless KG rediscovers his inner top 5-10 player, Yes the window is closed. I was feeling good until this recent injury which seems to be pretty serious. I definitely feel what Brick is saying. Unless your wearing the green tinted glasses it's hard to say that the window is still open.

Again, if it is green tinted glasses to say that the window is still opened, who are the real contenders?

The cavs, who'll need Lebron to play out of his mind because the rest of their front court sucks?

The magic, who are 2-6 over the last 8?

The lakers, who are having to play an ailing Kobe 39 minutes a game?

Relying on the fact that the others suck, too, just to make myself feel better for my own sucking is not at all a good tactic...

Last I checked, to win a championship you don't have to be great, you just have to suck less than everyone else.

It seems to me that sucking slightly less than the other teams is a great tactic.

So let me ask this again: if the celtics' window is closed, which team's window isn't?




Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2010, 12:15:38 AM »

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I hate the Lakers, but how many games have the played this year without their second best player, and what is their record? I am concerned that the Lakers will make a strong move to improve their bench and Danny will stand pat or add another weak, waiver wire veteran.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #80 on: January 19, 2010, 12:23:38 AM »

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Lakers vs Atlanta in the NBA finals.

Lakers win 4-2.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #81 on: January 19, 2010, 12:26:19 AM »

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I hate the Lakers, but how many games have the played this year without their second best player, and what is their record? I am concerned that the Lakers will make a strong move to improve their bench and Danny will stand pat or add another weak, waiver wire veteran.

Their record is 3 and a half, potentially 4 games better than us. But that is deceiving because:
- they've played 25 home games and 15 away games, and unlike us they are not very good on the road, with just a 9-6 record, even though they've only played 7 teams with winning records on the road.
- Kobe is playing 39 minutes a game with a bad back and a broken finger.


Still, is 4 games the difference between the window being open and closed?

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #82 on: January 19, 2010, 12:29:02 AM »

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I'm sitting on the fence. It all depends on KG if he doesn't figure it out and come back to something close to pre injury form we're done. Unless KG rediscovers his inner top 5-10 player, Yes the window is closed. I was feeling good until this recent injury which seems to be pretty serious. I definitely feel what Brick is saying. Unless your wearing the green tinted glasses it's hard to say that the window is still open.

Again, if it is green tinted glasses to say that the window is still opened, who are the real contenders?

The cavs, who'll need Lebron to play out of his mind because the rest of their front court sucks?

The magic, who are 2-6 over the last 8?

The lakers, who are having to play an ailing Kobe 39 minutes a game?

Relying on the fact that the others suck, too, just to make myself feel better for my own sucking is not at all a good tactic...

Last I checked, to win a championship you don't have to be great, you just have to suck less than everyone else.

It seems to me that sucking slightly less than the other teams is a great tactic.

So let me ask this again: if the celtics' window is closed, which team's window isn't?





it might be a great tactic when you don't have enough talent in your team or when there are other issues, like injuries(and that's the only excuse we have)!!
but when you have by far the best starting 5 in the league, that's a bad tactic which applies to lazy people without goals!

the cavs' window is more than open if lebron stays...shaq was a desperation move they made because they just couldn't get over their elimination by the magic!
generally, the team who will sign lebron this summer is automatically a big favorite for the next few years... he's young and with the right moves, they can build a championship team around him!
"Life has so many hurdles. Some of them I've hopped over, some of them I've tripped over. The key is to get back up and finish the race."- Paul Pierce

And he did finish...

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2010, 12:33:44 AM »

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I'm sitting on the fence. It all depends on KG if he doesn't figure it out and come back to something close to pre injury form we're done. Unless KG rediscovers his inner top 5-10 player, Yes the window is closed. I was feeling good until this recent injury which seems to be pretty serious. I definitely feel what Brick is saying. Unless your wearing the green tinted glasses it's hard to say that the window is still open.

Again, if it is green tinted glasses to say that the window is still opened, who are the real contenders?

The cavs, who'll need Lebron to play out of his mind because the rest of their front court sucks?

The magic, who are 2-6 over the last 8?

The lakers, who are having to play an ailing Kobe 39 minutes a game?

Relying on the fact that the others suck, too, just to make myself feel better for my own sucking is not at all a good tactic...

Last I checked, to win a championship you don't have to be great, you just have to suck less than everyone else.

It seems to me that sucking slightly less than the other teams is a great tactic.

So let me ask this again: if the celtics' window is closed, which team's window isn't?





it might be a great tactic when you don't have enough talent in your team or when there are other issues, like injuries(and that's the only excuse we have)!!
but when you have by far the best starting 5 in the league, that's a bad tactic which applies to lazy people without goals!

the cavs' window is more than open if lebron stays...shaq was a desperation move they made because they just couldn't get over their elimination by the magic!and shaq is hurting their chemistry right now, that's the only reason why the cavs' are worse this year.
generally, the team who will sign lebron this summer is automatically a big favorite for the next few years... he's young and with the right moves, they can build a championship team around him!
"Life has so many hurdles. Some of them I've hopped over, some of them I've tripped over. The key is to get back up and finish the race."- Paul Pierce

And he did finish...

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #84 on: January 19, 2010, 12:35:07 AM »

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Lakers vs Atlanta in the NBA finals.

Lakers win 4-2.


To me, the window being open means we have a decent shot. If you think that the hawks have a decent shot, but the celtics don't, then you are just trying to stir things up or you just love negativity.

Because I would love to hear the rationale that says that the team who is 6-6 since Christmas while fully healthy and is a game and a half behind us not only have a shot but are favored to make the finals, but the celtics, who are 5-7 in the same period while missing significant players to injury and still within 4 games of the top record in the league have absolutely no shot.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2010, 12:40:42 AM »

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Hawks are 3-0 against the Celtics.
Celtics are pathetic. 
It's merely a question of who will face the Lakers.
I pick the Hawks.

Celtics have zero chance, as tonight's game illustrates. Garnett was a no show.  Pierce was a no show in Q4.  They can't hit their free throws. They're a PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A CONTENDER.
Did I make myself clear?

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2010, 12:44:47 AM »

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I'm sitting on the fence. It all depends on KG if he doesn't figure it out and come back to something close to pre injury form we're done. Unless KG rediscovers his inner top 5-10 player, Yes the window is closed. I was feeling good until this recent injury which seems to be pretty serious. I definitely feel what Brick is saying. Unless your wearing the green tinted glasses it's hard to say that the window is still open.

Again, if it is green tinted glasses to say that the window is still opened, who are the real contenders?

The cavs, who'll need Lebron to play out of his mind because the rest of their front court sucks?

The magic, who are 2-6 over the last 8?

The lakers, who are having to play an ailing Kobe 39 minutes a game?

Relying on the fact that the others suck, too, just to make myself feel better for my own sucking is not at all a good tactic...

Last I checked, to win a championship you don't have to be great, you just have to suck less than everyone else.

It seems to me that sucking slightly less than the other teams is a great tactic.

So let me ask this again: if the celtics' window is closed, which team's window isn't?





it might be a great tactic when you don't have enough talent in your team or when there are other issues, like injuries(and that's the only excuse we have)!!
but when you have by far the best starting 5 in the league, that's a bad tactic which applies to lazy people without goals!

the cavs' window is more than open if lebron stays...shaq was a desperation move they made because they just couldn't get over their elimination by the magic!
generally, the team who will sign lebron this summer is automatically a big favorite for the next few years... he's young and with the right moves, they can build a championship team around him!

If the lazy people without goals are just slightly better than everyone else they will still be champions.

As I said in my last post: the championship window being open doesn't mean that we are overwhelming favorites. Just that we have a decent chance of winning a championship.

And as bad as we've been, there is simply no one out there that is much better than us. And I would say missing KG for 9 games, Pierce for 5, Sheed for 3, Rondo for 1 and Daniels for 19 so far are more than just "excuses."


So, if our window is closed and we don't have a decent shot at winning the championship, which are the teams that are so much better than us? Kobe might be younger than KG, but he has played more minutes in his career, and as we all know a bad back doesn't go away on its own.

The cavs window might be open wider if Lebron stays, but the topic here is not who has the longest window, but whether the celtics' window is closed.

And unless someone can come up with a team that is unequivocally better than the celtics, the answer is no, our window is definitely, 100% not closed.


And I wouldn't even go as far back as 68-69 to cite an example, but 94-95 with the 47-35 rockets.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2010, 12:46:37 AM »

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Hawks are 3-0 against the Celtics.
Celtics are pathetic. 
It's merely a question of who will face the Lakers.
I pick the Hawks.

Celtics have zero chance, as tonight's game illustrates. Garnett was a no show.  Pierce was a no show in Q4.  They can't hit their free throws. They're a PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A CONTENDER.
Did I make myself clear?

And the hawks are 0-2 agains the magic and the cavs. You are being irrational and saying things that are simply not based on actual nba standings.

But if you really think the celtics have ZERO chance, what the hell are you doing here? See you in the offseason.

Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #88 on: January 19, 2010, 12:48:14 AM »

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Prior to KG getting hurt, we had the best record in the East, and were neck-and-neck with the Lakers.  Even now, we're one loss back from Cleveland, and three back from the Lakers.

To think that we're not a contender is mystifying to me.

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Re: Has the Cs championship window already closed?
« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2010, 12:59:24 AM »

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And unless someone can come up with a team that is unequivocally better than the celtics, the answer is no, our window is definitely, 100% not closed.

It depends on which Celtics you're talking about... the Celtics at the opening night at Cleveland... or the January's Celtics?? cuz the Celtics I saw today can beat none of the teams you referred to!

so right now we can't say whether the window is closed or not, let's talk about it a week or 2 later...
"Life has so many hurdles. Some of them I've hopped over, some of them I've tripped over. The key is to get back up and finish the race."- Paul Pierce

And he did finish...