Hawks (23-13) at Celtics (26-9) 1/11

[jadams5214]

and rebounding...another night dominated on the boards

We got 35 rebounds and they got 30. But whatever...

Yeah the number of rebounds is sometimes deceiving.  The C's shot so well for most of the game that obviously there wouldn't be as many rebounds on their end.  The C's outshot the Hawks by over 20% for most of the game and still couldn't put them away due to the constant turnovers and the Hawks grabbing offensive rebounds at crucial times...

[jdpapa3]

and rebounding...another night dominated on the boards

We got 35 rebounds and they got 30. But whatever...

I agree, though. 3 offensive rebounds is crappy.

[Change]

Perk, Perk, Perk

The slow footed beast has TO issues again. You can take a nap before Perk reacts to a double team. lots of boneheaded plays from perk tonight. He shuffled his feet on two easy layups. Doc likes to talk about Team IQ, Perk needs some help from that department.

[Rtpas11]

The Hawks are no threat. We won't see them in the playoffs anyhow (highly doubt it). I'm thinking we may square off with either Knicks, Pacers or Raptors 1st round, 2nd round Cavs or Orlando. I was actually impressed with tonights game, although I would've appreciated a win more. I thought the Celtics played much better than what was on paper.

Anyhow the Hawks are no threat because:

K.G. was not himself yet when we 1st played them and lost.
Glen Davis was also injured for the 1st game, and these last two he's still getting back into the swing of things (especially tonight). Overall great game I just hope we don't go losing to the NEW JERSEY NETS now... lol

[celticinorlando]

and the hits just keep on coming...boston has a brutal back half of jan. and it looks like it is going to be ugly

[scoop]

and rebounding...another night dominated on the boards

We got 35 rebounds and they got 30. But whatever...

So? We were dominated on the boards.

[Chief]

Doc:

Takes blame for losing his cool

Says the guys gave a great effort

Refs were searching the bench looking to call something on someone and that's why he got one

Rasheed out a week at least

Refuses to throw Thibs under the bus after long pause just like Pierce and then blames the players being out there all that time on himself

No comments regarding the refs

Thanks. TP.

[celticinorlando]

and rebounding...another night dominated on the boards

We got 35 rebounds and they got 30. But whatever...

So? We were dominated on the boards.

tell me who grabbed the key rebounds in the important spots tonight? the hawks did

[JohnBagleyValueMeal]

Great posts by the more astute observers on this board regarding the Celtics' struggles.

Instead of excuses about the refs, injuries, fouls blah blah blah let's look at what is really causing these losses.

C's turnovers continue at an alarming rate.  And they tend to occur at the worst possible times.  3 straight in a crucial 3rd quarter stretch when the Hawks were coming back.  The Pierce lazy pass when the C's were down 2 late in the 4th and needing a score.  Perks constant traveling when having the opportunity for scores inside.

This team fails to execute down the stretch.  They constantly give up big leads by playing poorly.  They consistently have at least one terrible quarter (usually the 3rd) in each game.  

Doc made it clear how important this game was to the Celtics when talking about how the Hawks have owned them this year.  Despite having a 14 point lead the C's yet again blew it and choked down the stretch.  The Hawks have the edge on the Celtics now and there is no disputing that.  If they face each other in the 2nd round of the playoffs watch out...

<------- another new user spurred to register by jadams' awful told-you-so crowing. I've been reading this garbage all season--it's like your way of dealing with the disappointment of a loss is to dump all over the team so you can feel superior to all the "naive" fans. Let me clue you in to something, homey--you're a effing clown, all your posts might as well be pre-written because you say the same thing irrespective of how the game actually goes.

This nonsense about the Celtics supposedly terrible 3rd quarter is outright BUNK.  They got outscored 31-25 in the third quarter, which is hardly "terrible," particularly considering the gift FT's that were awarded to Atlanta. They shot extremely well in the third quarter and by merit should have been at least even.  

For the game, the Celtics shot 55% for the game and held the Hawks to 45%.  Despite missing 2 of their best 3 big men, they were fairly even on rebounds.  They held Atlanta below their season average on points, even.  And yes, they had too many turnovers, and no, they couldn't do enough to win the game.  But that's hardly the result of some fatal flaws that only you and your misunderstood basketball genius can perceive. Keep on crying about what a lousy team the Celts are--maybe it'll draw out new posters who can actually construct an argument.  

In closing, SHHUUTTTTTTTTT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP.

[nickagneta]

C's with 18 turnovers.
C's 3 point shot has disappeared in the second half.
C's can't defend Joe Johnson.
C's offense has gone south in the second half after a great first half.

Can't blame ANY of that on the refs...

C's shooting 10-17 from three.
C's continue to outrebound the Hawks
C's still playing severely undermanned.
C's still getting very little calls.


C's still leading.

The Hawks outrebounded the Celtics badly and they did it since early in the game.

No team can win a championship turning over the ball at this rate and being consistently outrebounded by pretty much everybody. At one point early in the 4th quarter, there was a 20 point differential in FG% and the Hawks were only down by 2 or 3 points. In the end the Celtics had a 10FG% advantage and still lost the game by 6. The difference out off points off turnovers alone was 17 points. Difficult to win consistently with this, even if you're much better putting the ball in the net and getting stops.

What game were you watching?

Celtics outrebounded the Hawks 35-30 in raw numbers. Did I miss something. Celtics rebounded nearly 80% of the misses on the defensive end tonight. That's a good number. They also rebounded over 54% of all the misses in the game which is also a good number.

[Kiorrik]

I actually gotta thank jadams right now, for bringing in two new peeps.

Jadams, have you seen the Dark Knight? Where Batman is portrayed as being the guy that gets blamed for the bad thing while doing the good?

I think that might be you!

[celticinorlando]

if people think boston hasnt struggled in the third quarter of games this season then they havent been watching them

[scoop]

C's with 18 turnovers.
C's 3 point shot has disappeared in the second half.
C's can't defend Joe Johnson.
C's offense has gone south in the second half after a great first half.

Can't blame ANY of that on the refs...

C's shooting 10-17 from three.
C's continue to outrebound the Hawks
C's still playing severely undermanned.
C's still getting very little calls.


C's still leading.

The Hawks outrebounded the Celtics badly and they did it since early in the game.

No team can win a championship turning over the ball at this rate and being consistently outrebounded by pretty much everybody. At one point early in the 4th quarter, there was a 20 point differential in FG% and the Hawks were only down by 2 or 3 points. In the end the Celtics had a 10FG% advantage and still lost the game by 6. The difference out off points off turnovers alone was 17 points. Difficult to win consistently with this, even if you're much better putting the ball in the net and getting stops.

What game were you watching?

Celtics outrebounded the Hawks 35-30 in raw numbers. Did I miss something. Celtics rebounded nearly 80% of the misses on the defensive end tonight. That's a good number. They also rebounded over 54% of all the misses in the game which is also a good number.

Raw numbers are meaningless, that's just a consequence of the fact the Cs shot the ball better. We were outrebounded in rebounding % differential, which is what matters.

[LB3533]

All we needed to do in the 4th quarter was play pick and roll with Rondo and Pierce, and have Pierce drill shots over Crawford's head.

If the Hawks switch and have Joe Johnson guarding Pierce, then that's even better, Pierce can drive on Joe, who won't foul cause he wants to stay in the game to score on the other end.

Also, if you have Perk and Baby out there, don't tell me that neither of them can set a darn pick to get Ray open for a jumper or whatever.

Going to Big Baby and Perk in the post, over and over is how you score 16 (13) points in the most important quarter of an NBA game.

[BigBaby]

The officiating wasn't great but it wasn't really bad. We can't complain we have had plenty of games that could have gone the other way already but we had the benefit of the call for most of the season.