if people think boston hasnt struggled in the third quarter of games this season then they havent been watching them
We're talking about THIS GAME, homey, and that's not what happened tonight. If you want to talk about the fourth quarter tonight, fine, but then you'd actually have to make an argument based on evidence and not some pre-existing narrative you roll out whenever you feel like it.
get over yourself professor....tell me what was the boston lead to start the 3rd? what was it at the end? go back and look at the third quarters of philly, atlanta (all 3 times), GS, the Clippers....most of the games boston has lost this season there have given up big leads or had poor 3rd quarters...and what is your argument again? and who are you again?
Hrm...did we play Philly tonight? Did we play Atlanta 3 times tonight? Did we play Golden State tonight?
It's not my argument that the Celtics have OMG NEVER PLAYED A BAD THIRD QUARTER. It's my argument that it wasn't what happened tonight (They started the 3rd with a 9 pt lead, ended with a 3, but considering the ft's and momentum that's not 'terrible,' as you claimed). And guess what--lots of us have league pass and lots of us are perfectly willing to talk about what *actually happened* in a game.
It's also my argument that it's bogus to rehearse the same old claims about the team when the evidence doesn't stack up. If you wanted to say the celtics lost because of their terrible turnovers, that's fine--there's evidence for that. But you can't pin tonight on the third because that's not where the game was lost.
I'm a dude who registered to yell at people who can't make a decent argument because I've been reading it all year from some of you chicken littles and I can't take it any longer.
The game was obviously lost in the 3rd quarter as evidenced by the C's shooting over 80% and losing 2/3 of their lead. Doc and Hill overreacted on a legitimate flagrant foul could changing the momentum.
Again those of us who constantly post about turnovers, blowing big leads, failing to execute down the stretch after "every" loss === that's because it's precisely what happens in most every loss that is the entire point ----...
Please stop the name calling - Redz
Part of people's problems with you is not your post game criticisms, which in some cases are valid.
It is the constant negative, not objective, but down right negative outlook you have and contribute every game no matter the score, no matter the situation no matter the play. I mean after the Rondo alley oop the other night your first post was a doomsday outlook of the team having Rasheed out, Ray with 5 fouls and having ANOTHER TURNOVER!!
Come on. The single most exciting play for the Celtics in a couple of years and your first reaction is:
Rasheed is out and Ray with 5 fouls. Going to be a tough overtime especially starting it with ANOTHER turnover...
It's not like we don't have evidence of this negativity. We can all go back and read every single post you ever posted right here:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6913;sa=showPosts;start=0
32 pages of posts, almost entirely in game threads and 99% of which discusses a negative view of the moment or the team, even during wins.
You're a fan, then you're a fan. But you show a propensity for possibly being the single most negative fan ever to visit this site. And that's saying something.
BTW I don't want to hear about this being name calling from anyone. Read through jadams posts. Negative is just an honest adjective describing his type of fandom and not name calling.
I definitely agree with the 99% portion of your post but in a slightly different way --- 99% of the posts I have made here are based on facts. 1% of the time I have posted something random without thinking it through carefully which is a pretty good ratio.
Everyone has their way of watching games and/or reacting to them. Some posters on here are blind optimists rooting for the Celtics and cheering them on without any objectivity. There is a definite place for that as I love listening to Tommy Heinsohn even though at times his homerism is mind boggling. Some posters are stat driven but add nothing else other than quoting those stats. Some like to keep things positive no matter what the situation or how poorly the team is playing.
A small minority of posters watch the games intently and post reactions to those observations. They are backed up by stats when necessary but also include insight that can only be gained from being an astute and keen observer. When the team is playing bad as they have done for a large part of the past couple weeks those posts will be more negative.
It is wise not to question whether someone is a true fan that is not fair to do to anyone. I don't say that to anyone else and expect the same in return. Being a Celtic fan for the past 30 years, attending numerous games, having more knowledge of the Celtics and their history than most of the world's population hopefully qualifies as being a fan.
Rest assured fellow posters I will continue to watch the games and along with a few others, make astute observations based on those games. There are enough blind optimists here that need to be balanced out by more critical, logical observations.
GO CELTICS!
There are always two ways of looking at any situation. Half full, half empty.
Where someone might have an astute observation of all turnovers being bad, others may look at some and see a turnover caused not by bad play but by an excellent defensive play from the other team, or excellent hustle trying to make a play as time is running out, or a very bad call from an official(sorry, the refs make mistakes every game against every team that are just wrong). Half empty/half full.
Where someone is pointing out an informed view of a bad third quarter collapse, some might see a six point(just two possessions) one quarter swing as a very normal NBA occurrence. Six point or more swings in the third quarter happened in two games tonight(with one to play), in three of six games last night and three of eight games played the night before. It happens all the time, even in Boston wins and even during the last couple of years. Six point swings are far from collapses to some. Half empty/half full.
There are an awful lot of extremely knowledgeable basketball fans that are in this thread that are extremely blind optimists in this thread but are extremely astute in their perspective of the team and the game afterward in other threads. Maybe you shouldn't paint them all with the very wide brush you are using while simultaneously patting yourself on the back for your factual, astute, objective posts.
I've read your posts. There are major discrepancies between your version of what the facts are and what a great many other very knowledgeable people might view as the facts.
While you have every right in the world to post anywhere in this site you wish, know that the game thread has been a tradition here at Celticsblog where CBers come to cheer their team on, much like you might see at a bar across the street from the TD Garden. Objectivity has usually gone out the window in these threads and although many do point to areas where the team needs inprovement or contend that things are otherwise, you might be the only person that has ever done it in every single post. To those blind optimists that come here to cheer, understand their emotions and where they are coming from. If you wish to avoid these types of posts from a plethora of other posters as this year progresses, maybe you might want to think about the tone and style of your posts here in the game threads where objectiveness regarding the Celtics, often does not exist.
Just a friendly suggestion. If you don't, that's cool. You have every right to do what you want the way you want. But my guess here is that there will be more and more and more people coming on criticizing your posts and eventually words will be exchanged and the mods are going to step in and everyone loses.
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