Enter your speculative 2-for-1 or 3-for-2 trade idea here

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Ainge points out that Lester was cut for flexibility. Of course we could add a free agent like Lue, Stackhouse or a future buyout candidate, but Ainge also notes that an extra spot could be needed in trade.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?&articleid=1223829&format=&page=1&listingType=celt#articleFull

With that in mind, who could the Celtics be targeting? Place your best guess here.

My not-so-best guess is:

Dooling, Hayes, Sean Williams for Scal & TA

or:

Devin Brown & Hilton Armstrong for Scal

Who else?

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Another variation of my NO idea:

Armostrong, Brown and Collison for Scal, Walker and our 1st.

Saves NO $2mil in salary and tax, they get a pick comperable to that where they took Collison last year.

Note Marc Stein's notes on this:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/11841/tradenon-trade-were-big-deals-to-hornets

[fanofgreen]

I really like that Dooling/Hayes/S.Williams....for...TA/Scal idea.

That would give us what we need, (actually maybe a little more)
Dooling, can handle the ball and be a backup PG and create his own shot

Hayes,(although oft-injured) a 6'6 wing with a solid game, add to our thin wing depth

SeanWilliams,a young athletic, lanky, energy, shot-blocking Pf, who could be a beast defensively, on a defensive-minded team like the Celtics. He would be good for at least 2 weak side blocks a night.

[BballTim]

  I don't see us trading a 2-1 or 3-2, I thought we were more likely to combine our smaller salaries to pick up a player with a bigger contract. The main exception would be trading Ray. I'm expecting them to look  at signing another buyout player later in the season.

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  I don't see us trading a 2-1 or 3-2, I thought we were more likely to combine our smaller salaries to pick up a player with a bigger contract. The main exception would be trading Ray. I'm expecting them to look  at signing another buyout player later in the season.

With a number of teams desperate to get under the lux tax, and TA playing better basketball, it could work out the other way around. With Scal making $3.5mil we could take back a deal or deals worth $4.3mil. Add in Walker and it goes up to $5.3mil ($1mil more in salary, plus the tax savings), or add in Giddens instead and it rises to about $5.7mil ($1.2mil difference in salary, plus the tax savings).

The Stein article about Devin Brown makes an interesting point: teams may now be willing to make deals that clearly make them worse simply to avoid as much or all of the tax as possible. We saw it with Utah and Eric Maynor, and NO tried on this deal with Hart for Brown.

By the way, my NJ proposal doesn’t stem from this. They want 2011 cap space. They get some by dumping Dooling (tho most of his deal is non-guaranteed this year). They also are rumored to want to trade Najara to Dallas, but need a roster spot to do so. What I proposed provides that.

[blackbird]

Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

[KCattheStripe]

Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

[Ohio Celtics Fan]

Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

I couldn't agree more.

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Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

Uuuhhh not to rain on the parade here, but the idea was the Cs taking back more players than they give up....

[KCattheStripe]

Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

Uuuhhh not to rain on the parade here, but the idea was the Cs taking back more players than they give up....

Doesn't matter. Still the Best. Trade. Ever.

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Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

Uuuhhh not to rain on the parade here, but the idea was the Cs taking back more players than they give up....

Doesn't matter. Still the Best. Trade. Ever.

Fair enough. Would greatly improve the Wolves now and for the future.

[slamtheking]

Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

Uuuhhh not to rain on the parade here, but the idea was the Cs taking back more players than they give up....

Doesn't matter. Still the Best. Trade. Ever.

Fair enough. Would greatly improve the Wolves now and for the future.

Not sure this would be a great trade for either team nor is it remotely realistic.

Assuming that Minnie would be inclined to ship off their franchise player for minor expiring deals and an aging veteran that's nowhere near an all-star:

It'd be great to have Al back but he doesn't provide the defense that Sheed does and that's what the C's really need.  Sheed can also space the floor which Al doesn't really do. 

Now, just dreaming here but put Al on the floor with KG, PP, Ray and Sessions and he'd never see a double-team so it'd be a field day for him down low.

[LarBrd33]

Ray Allen for Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince

Ray Allen for Kevin Martin and Nocioni

somethin like that

(not gonna happen)... but a 2 for 1 involving Ray is definitely possible. 

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Rasheed Wallace, Brian Scalabrine, JR Giddens and Eddie House

for

Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions

Best. Trade. Ever.

Uuuhhh not to rain on the parade here, but the idea was the Cs taking back more players than they give up....

Doesn't matter. Still the Best. Trade. Ever.

Fair enough. Would greatly improve the Wolves now and for the future.

Not sure this would be a great trade for either team nor is it remotely realistic.

Assuming that Minnie would be inclined to ship off their franchise player for minor expiring deals and an aging veteran that's nowhere near an all-star:

It'd be great to have Al back but he doesn't provide the defense that Sheed does and that's what the C's really need.  Sheed can also space the floor which Al doesn't really do. 

Now, just dreaming here but put Al on the floor with KG, PP, Ray and Sessions and he'd never see a double-team so it'd be a field day for him down low.

clearly i was only kidding.

[KG_ended_Bias]

Baron Davis, Blake Griffin & Eric Gordon for Rajon Rondo, Big Baby Davis & Ray Allen future 1st top 3 protected.

I would love that deal!