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Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2010, 02:43:34 PM »

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I'm not concerned about KG's situation right now. I think they are probably just being ultra cautious. Don't forget that also...KG took one helluva spill against Orlando where he landed on his back side in a heap. When you watched the replya and saw the expression on KG's face...one of true and very intense pain...I wouldn't be suprised if part of this extra rest was getting KG right from that spill.

I have rarely seen that expression on KG's face like the one after he landed on his back side. Though he had no interest in moving at all after that fall, he willed himself off the floor. He was hurting, big time. And that wasn't his knee.

I'm always an optimist...but in this case I do feel he's ok, maybe just some irritation in the recovery process. He was looking pretty good all season and looked stronger.

And without question, yes, it was 100% worth it to bring in KG. I'll take the 2008 season and whatever percent of his spirit and fire he can give us these next 2-3 seasons and trade it seven days a week and twice on Sundays for the prior 22 seasons without him....an absolute joy to watch at whatever level he can bring.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2010, 02:49:46 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.
exactly.  KG's here, no matter what condition he's in, until at least his last contract year.  If he's healthy, we want him.  If he's not, his contract precludes any thoughts of a good deal for the C's.  No team would take on his contract if he's not healthy---certainly not before it becomes an expiring deal in 2 years.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2010, 02:57:46 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2010, 03:04:22 PM »

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this stinks on so many levels!  talk about dejua vu.

at this point, i think the celtics have to consider trading kg

  You want to trade KG when he's already practicing again after a minor knee injury that didn't even require surgery?

i dont "want" to, but like i said in my post you quoted, if im ainge, i must "consider" it at this point.  if this injury lingers like it did last year where he is missing more and more games, and especially postseason game, i think looking at the bigger picture is a must.  if ur ainge, you dont want to be stuck with a vet being paid big $ and he isnt playing.  trade while he still has value so you get something worthwhile in return.

my personal feeling, i dont want to trade him.  as some1 else mentioned, he is the definition of ubuntu (and a fav player of mine). 

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2010, 03:11:56 PM »

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I wonder if it might be in the best interest of the team to shut him down longer, make sure he comes back 100% for a playoff run and if he excels in the playoffs, try everything they can to get fair value for him on the open market.

Maybe Jeff, in his front page article he wrote before going on vacation is right. Maybe an abrupt end to KG's career is on the horizon and after utilizing KG to his fullest this year to get a banner and make him look good doing it, the C's should move him.

Sacrilege, I know, but maybe it's the most prudent thing to do.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2010, 03:12:52 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

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« Reply #66 on: January 12, 2010, 03:16:53 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

  I'm not saying we should trade him. I'm not saying we'd improve our team if we did. But saying that he's untradeable because of inuries and declining play or that we could'nt unload him unless we took on bad players with bad contracts is ridiculous.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #67 on: January 12, 2010, 03:19:01 PM »

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I wonder if next week they'll still be saying KG will be back in 10 days. ::)
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Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2010, 03:27:42 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

  I'm not saying we should trade him. I'm not saying we'd improve our team if we did. But saying that he's untradeable because of inuries and declining play or that we could'nt unload him unless we took on bad players with bad contracts is ridiculous.
Not really, what team would give up young talent for him?

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« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2010, 03:37:33 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

  I'm not saying we should trade him. I'm not saying we'd improve our team if we did. But saying that he's untradeable because of inuries and declining play or that we could'nt unload him unless we took on bad players with bad contracts is ridiculous.
Not really, what team would give up young talent for him?

  Yes really. Even if a team only offered us expiring contracts for KG that's much better than you said we could trade him for.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2010, 04:12:09 PM »

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I think it would be tough to trade KG right now but only because of his injury questions.

Re possible career ending situation with KG? I just don't see how that's possible. In some games this season he looked incredible again and overall I thought he was getting stronger as time went on. I saw him live against' Minny in December and he looked very spry and showed no wincing or hesitation. Therefore, I just don't see his injury as career ending. But who am I to know...

Just from what we know of KG, I just think that unless his injury is life threatening, KG will honor his contract and do whatever he can to help us raise another one. Guys, blowout ACL's and come back. If KG needed another surgery and then one year off, but was fully healthy his last two years of his contract it would be worth it.

I just don't see it going down like that..Guys tear ACL's, are out for a full yer and come back. I would assume the same is possible in KG's situation if necessary.

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2010, 04:15:43 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

  I'm not saying we should trade him. I'm not saying we'd improve our team if we did. But saying that he's untradeable because of inuries and declining play or that we could'nt unload him unless we took on bad players with bad contracts is ridiculous.
Not really, what team would give up young talent for him?

  Yes really. Even if a team only offered us expiring contracts for KG that's much better than you said we could trade him for.
What I meant by Eddy Curry-esqe was a big contract with a garbage player attached. That's likely all we could get for him expirings or a shorter deal.

The only way we get any talent is for another highly paid but declining player. (ala Shaq for Shawn Marion)

Re: Garnett possibly out 2 more weeks
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2010, 04:30:48 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.
Thanks for saying this.  This is what I'm hoping, but you never know. 

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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2010, 04:31:21 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

  I'm not saying we should trade him. I'm not saying we'd improve our team if we did. But saying that he's untradeable because of inuries and declining play or that we could'nt unload him unless we took on bad players with bad contracts is ridiculous.
Not really, what team would give up young talent for him?

  Yes really. Even if a team only offered us expiring contracts for KG that's much better than you said we could trade him for.
What I meant by Eddy Curry-esqe was a big contract with a garbage player attached. That's likely all we could get for him expirings or a shorter deal.

The only way we get any talent is for another highly paid but declining player. (ala Shaq for Shawn Marion)

  Your original point was that, because of his injuries and declining play, we couldn't trade him unless we were willing to take back "god awful contracts". In other words, we wouldn't even be able to trade him for expiring contracts. I disagree with this and with your assessment of KG's value. I'm sure we could get prospects and/or draft picks as part of the package if we traded him.

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« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2010, 05:50:26 PM »

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KG is absolutely completely untradeable at this point.

Look at his contract, look at the injury concerns, and look at his declining play. Unless we're taking back god awful contracts (Eddy Curry-esqe) we're not trading KG.

  Contending teams would line up to take him off of our hands.
What contenders would offer pieces that would make the Celtics better in short or long term?

  I'm not saying we should trade him. I'm not saying we'd improve our team if we did. But saying that he's untradeable because of inuries and declining play or that we could'nt unload him unless we took on bad players with bad contracts is ridiculous.
Not really, what team would give up young talent for him?

  Yes really. Even if a team only offered us expiring contracts for KG that's much better than you said we could trade him for.
What I meant by Eddy Curry-esqe was a big contract with a garbage player attached. That's likely all we could get for him expirings or a shorter deal.

The only way we get any talent is for another highly paid but declining player. (ala Shaq for Shawn Marion)

  Your original point was that, because of his injuries and declining play, we couldn't trade him unless we were willing to take back "god awful contracts". In other words, we wouldn't even be able to trade him for expiring contracts. I disagree with this and with your assessment of KG's value. I'm sure we could get prospects and/or draft picks as part of the package if we traded him.
An expiring contract for a bad player is still a god awful contract in my mind. What sort of assets or trade do you think we could get, I'm curious.