Hudson can play (or not... Hudson waived)

[footey]

At first was surprised, given our lack of depth at PG. But it makes sense from a $$ POV. Plus, while he played pretty well in that one stint the other day vs. Toronto, it was clear that he was not ready to be a back up PG on this team. Also Doc's post game comments (he "scared me") was the final nail in the coffin for Les.  I wish him well, though. He can definitely play in the NBA. Decent 3 point stroke, and has some PG in him. Put another way, I'd take him over Orien Greene any day!!

[Tr1boy]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

[abb]

i think the memphis grizzlies will sign lester.  i don't know how the waiver system works but they picked at 36 and thought lester would fall through the draft.   i hope they do pick him up and give him a shot.

[scoop]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

This decision is mostly on Ainge, I'd guess.

Anyway, can you point out a few examples of youngsters who didn't succeed under Doc and went on to flourish with a different coach? Thanks.

[jdpapa3]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

This decision is mostly on Ainge, I'd guess.

Anyway, can you point out a few examples of youngsters who didn't succeed under Doc and went on to flourish with a different coach? Thanks.

Will Bynum and Dahntay Jones come to mind. But that's about it. Can't knock Doc.

[slamtheking]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

This decision is mostly on Ainge, I'd guess.

Anyway, can you point out a few examples of youngsters who didn't succeed under Doc and went on to flourish with a different coach? Thanks.

The only player that the C's have had on the roster for a couple of seasons that didn't get playing time then went elsewhere is Pruitt.  Not much of a sample size.  Granted he didn't make the cut in NY but Doc's track record is still questionable based on the players the C's DID keep and got playing time due to injuries/trades.  Like Gomes, Powe, Al, Perk, Rondo (well, less so with Rondo since Telfair just plain stunk).

But to stick to the topic.  I can only hope Danny's got something brewing to improve the bench and needs the roster spot.  It's got to be better than Lue.

Thought Hudson had some ability and could be a contributor next year in Eddie's role but that appears to be over now.

[2short]

huh? smells like a deal going down and a true backup pg coming to town
pack those bags scal

[nickagneta]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

This decision is mostly on Ainge, I'd guess.

Anyway, can you point out a few examples of youngsters who didn't succeed under Doc and went on to flourish with a different coach? Thanks.

Will Bynum and Dahntay Jones come to mind. But that's about it. Can't knock Doc.

Neither Bynum nor Jones ever played under Doc. They weren't good enough, at the time, to make the teams that they tried out for that Doc coached.

The reason scoop asked the question is because he already knows the answer, as do I. The answer is no one. There isn't a single player that played under Doc that didn't get playing time that went on to flourish and become something big elsewhere.  Doc detractors will say the only reason he ever used all those young guys(and the list is many going all the way back to Orlando), is because he had to because he was forced to because of injury. That, plain and simply, isn't true.

[Drucci]

Danny said the Celtics could "possibly" bring Hudson back. It doesn't sound like he is excited about it or plans to do it but who knows... here is the piece of news from the Globe :

MIAMI -- Lester Hudson has to clear waivers -- he has until Friday to do so -- and the Celtics could bring him back on a 10-day contract. President of basketball operations Danny Ainge said the Celtics could "possibly" bring Hudson back if he is not claimed by another NBA team or they could keep the roster spot open and bring in another player on a 10-day contract. The Celtics currently have 14 players on their roster.

[Fafnir]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

This decision is mostly on Ainge, I'd guess.

Anyway, can you point out a few examples of youngsters who didn't succeed under Doc and went on to flourish with a different coach? Thanks.

This is from another thread, but the idea that Doc won't play rookies is absurd:

To further illustrate Atzar's and my point:

Orlando 1999-2000: Chucky Atkins and Corey Maggete both rookies played 19.8 17.8 MPG respectively.

Orlando 2000-2001: Mike Miller a rookie plays 29.1 MPG

Orlando 2001-2002: Jeryl Sasser and Steven Hunter are rookies but don't really play

Orlando 2002-2003: Gordan Giricek (European player)and Drew Gooden were rookies and played. Pat Burke and Ryan Humphrey did not.

Orlando 2003-2004: Fired after 11 games.

Boston 2004-2005: Tony Allen and Al Jefferson both played

Boston 2005-2006: Gomes and Green both played, though not a ton still a lot more than Walker/Giddens

Boston 2006-2007: Powe and Rondo played

Boston 2007-2008: Glen Davis played

Boston 2008-2009: Bill Walker and J.R. Giddens did not play

Boston 2009-2010: Lester Hudson did not play

Doc plays roookies plenty, when they don't suck.

[nesnfsn]

I, myself, on several occasions had posted and started threads begging for Doc to give Lobster Hudson some playing time, especially when KG, PP and RR were out of the linup. Eddie House cannot be allowed to run the point, and Ray (Future HOF he may be), cannot be relied upon to dribble. He is slowly approaching a loss of his handle (not as bad as Tony Allen, but degrading physical ability).

As was obvious from the end of 4th qtr. last night against Dwayne Wade, that was not a great defensive play, but rather Ray simply could not get past DW, and appeared to decide that he would attempt to drive by DW and hopefully draw the foul (unlikely against DW with 5.5 seconds left in the game). Ray is still a premier player (not a top 20, but just lower than All-Star level), and even though he is in TREMENDOUS PHYSICAL SHAPE, more youthful stars are now starting to surpass him. Note I would not trade him unless a serious deal arose which would help the C's both this year (window is starting to close) and for the future with Rondo & Perk.

GETTING BACK TO LESTER HUDSON, I must admit that it appears that Danny and Doc have decided that the Lobster season is over!!! Perhaps Rafer Alston being bought out has caught their interest, and perhaps we will see Alston in Green shortly. Just a thought from a former Lobster fan.

[nickagneta]

I hope they keep him on 10 day contract type deals because he will come to haunt us in the future.

I really don't understand how he scares you but eddie house doesn't frighten you manning the pg position. Its utter favoritism at its best with doc.

He stated in the beginning of the year that hudson was great etc. That he needed time off to the nbdl but he should be back soon. And after barely playing him he states such a dumb post game response in beyond me imo

Some of our young rookies over the years may have not come through just cause they don't have the abilities to be nba players but another big factor has to do with how the coaches prepare them, teaches them and guides them to be a player.

Its really a hit or miss with doc

This decision is mostly on Ainge, I'd guess.

Anyway, can you point out a few examples of youngsters who didn't succeed under Doc and went on to flourish with a different coach? Thanks.

This is from another thread, but the idea that Doc won't play rookies is absurd:

To further illustrate Atzar's and my point:

Orlando 1999-2000: Chucky Atkins and Corey Maggete both rookies played 19.8 17.8 MPG respectively.

Orlando 2000-2001: Mike Miller a rookie plays 29.1 MPG

Orlando 2001-2002: Jeryl Sasser and Steven Hunter are rookies but don't really play

Orlando 2002-2003: Gordan Giricek (European player)and Drew Gooden were rookies and played. Pat Burke and Ryan Humphrey did not.

Orlando 2003-2004: Fired after 11 games.

Boston 2004-2005: Tony Allen and Al Jefferson both played

Boston 2005-2006: Gomes and Green both played, though not a ton still a lot more than Walker/Giddens

Boston 2006-2007: Powe and Rondo played

Boston 2007-2008: Glen Davis played

Boston 2008-2009: Bill Walker and J.R. Giddens did not play

Boston 2009-2010: Lester Hudson did not play

Doc plays roookies plenty, when they don't suck.

Mike Miller won Rookie of the Year under Doc!!

[FatjohnReturns]

I hope Lester finds a home. With our injury situation and our title aspirations this year we need someone who can contrubute immediatly. Not a good year for on the job training.

[Fafnir]

Mike Miller won Rookie of the Year under Doc!!

I forgot that, TP!

[Chris]

huh? smells like a deal going down and a true backup pg coming to town
pack those bags scal

Eh, I doubt anything is going down soon.  This was just done because they were at the deadline to decide whether he was going to be with the team for the rest of the year.  They decided he wasn't ready, and they may need the roster spot eventually for either a trade or signing a guy who was bought out.  This means they don't have to pay him for the whole year, when he would have most likely been cut in February. 

Perhaps they will pick up someone on a 10-day contract (maybe Lue...although I doubt it), but I don't anticipate anything significant going down until closer to the deadline.