Trade idea for Devin Brown

[wdleehi]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

[yall hate]

didnt Brown have an issue with giving up a starting spot? 

He might reject the trade for the very same reason...

[nickagneta]

Unfortunately, I think the only trade I see New Orleans making is trading a way players for salary exceptions and draft picks. Orlando, the Lakers, Denver, and Miami are all contending teams with decent to large size exceptions that could throw the trade exception and a draft pick at New Orleans to grab a player of their's and reduce their payroll below the luxury tax in time for them not to have to pay the tax this year.

My guess, expect Darius Songalia, Morris Peterson or James Posey to go to one of the above named teams in a trade using an exception

[slamtheking]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

[wdleehi]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

Hudson isn't good enough to get on the court when the team has injuries.  At best, he is a future reserve player.

Celtics are a win now team.  This upgrades their "win now" bench.

Brown can step in and play NBA level ball.  Hudson can not. 

[nickagneta]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

Hudson isn't good enough to get on the court when the team has injuries.  At best, he is a future reserve player.

Celtics are a win now team.  This upgrades their "win now" bench.

Brown can step in and play NBA level ball.  Hudson can not. 

Gotta agree with that assessment.

[jdub1660]

Instead of Hudson, lets trade Giddens and a draft pick. Devin Brown is a good defender, can handle the ball, and most importantly, create his own shot. We need that desperately so I'd love to see him here at our 6th man.

[wdleehi]

Instead of Hudson, lets trade Giddens and a draft pick. Devin Brown is a good defender, can handle the ball, and most importantly, create his own shot. We need that desperately so I'd love to see him here at our 6th man.

It doesn't save NO money.  The Hudson trade saves them about 1 million (salary and tax)

[Who]

Devin Brown isn't good enough to be a rotation player.

Having three/four non-rotation wings in Giddens, Walker, Brown and TA is too many.

If Brown can be acquired for Walker or Giddens then I would have some interest. If not, then I wouldn't.

[scoop]

I'd just save the money. Brown isn't better than Tony Allen, although he'd be a better fit here.

[slamtheking]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

Hudson isn't good enough to get on the court when the team has injuries.  At best, he is a future reserve player.

Celtics are a win now team.  This upgrades their "win now" bench.

Brown can step in and play NBA level ball.  Hudson can not. 

Allow me to rephrase my point so that you can help me understand why you want to make this deal.

In your own words, which I bolded in my initial quote from you, you said he's "not a good player".  What's the motivation for getting someone who's "not a good player"?  If he's "not a a good player" how is it you believe he's capable of "playing NBA-level ball"?  Seems like a contradiction to me. 

[wdleehi]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

Hudson isn't good enough to get on the court when the team has injuries.  At best, he is a future reserve player.

Celtics are a win now team.  This upgrades their "win now" bench.

Brown can step in and play NBA level ball.  Hudson can not. 

Allow me to rephrase my point so that you can help me understand why you want to make this deal.

In your own words, which I bolded in my initial quote from you, you said he's "not a good player".  What's the motivation for getting someone who's "not a good player"?  If he's "not a a good player" how is it you believe he's capable of "playing NBA-level ball"?  Seems like a contradiction to me. 

Because he would be better then the player being shipped out.

Unlike Hudson, he could play 10-15 minutes for the Celtics and he could help them in those limited minutes (at least until Pierce and Daniels are back)

He is on the last year of his contract.  He doesn't cost much.  And he can be repackaged in a trade later this season if an opportunity comes up. 

[slamtheking]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

Hudson isn't good enough to get on the court when the team has injuries.  At best, he is a future reserve player.

Celtics are a win now team.  This upgrades their "win now" bench.

Brown can step in and play NBA level ball.  Hudson can not. 

Allow me to rephrase my point so that you can help me understand why you want to make this deal.

In your own words, which I bolded in my initial quote from you, you said he's "not a good player".  What's the motivation for getting someone who's "not a good player"?  If he's "not a a good player" how is it you believe he's capable of "playing NBA-level ball"?  Seems like a contradiction to me. 

Because he would be better then the player being shipped out.

Unlike Hudson, he could play 10-15 minutes for the Celtics and he could help them in those limited minutes (at least until Pierce and Daniels are back)

He is on the last year of his contract.  He doesn't cost much.  And he can be repackaged in a trade later this season if an opportunity comes up. 

That's where I think you're off in your reasoning.  If he's being acquired with the thought of shipping him back out, he's not worth acquiring in the first place.  If we're getting someone for the bench, it should be someone that's intended to help the team for the year.

I'm still not clear on why you believe he's better than Hudson.

[wdleehi]

They tried to trade him to save cap money.


How about Hudson for Brown?


Brown may not be a good player, but he is an NBA level player that could help this team out right now. 

On top of that, his 1 million expiring contract makes him more useful later in the season if they need to put together a couple of contracts to make a trade. 

ok, so I'm not following why we make this trade.  If he's not good, you propose to get him anyway?  In exchange for a player that has shown so potential?   Just for the possibility of throwing this new player into potential other trade later this season?

no thanks.  I'll hang onto Hudson.  I'm probably crazy but I see him having a good fighting chance to take Eddie's role on the team next year and doing a better job.

Hudson isn't good enough to get on the court when the team has injuries.  At best, he is a future reserve player.

Celtics are a win now team.  This upgrades their "win now" bench.

Brown can step in and play NBA level ball.  Hudson can not. 

Allow me to rephrase my point so that you can help me understand why you want to make this deal.

In your own words, which I bolded in my initial quote from you, you said he's "not a good player".  What's the motivation for getting someone who's "not a good player"?  If he's "not a a good player" how is it you believe he's capable of "playing NBA-level ball"?  Seems like a contradiction to me. 

Because he would be better then the player being shipped out.

Unlike Hudson, he could play 10-15 minutes for the Celtics and he could help them in those limited minutes (at least until Pierce and Daniels are back)

He is on the last year of his contract.  He doesn't cost much.  And he can be repackaged in a trade later this season if an opportunity comes up. 

That's where I think you're off in your reasoning.  If he's being acquired with the thought of shipping him back out, he's not worth acquiring in the first place.  If we're getting someone for the bench, it should be someone that's intended to help the team for the year.

I'm still not clear on why you believe he's better than Hudson.

Because he actually plays in the NBA. 


And the trade is to bring in someone that can step in and play when there are injuries.  It is just a bonus that he s still tradeable once Pierce and Daniels are back.