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Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2009, 11:01:13 AM »

Offline vinnie

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I like Eddie House, but he has been pretty bad this year. He is shooting 39 percent from the field and 37 percent from behind the arc. Last year he shot 44 percent overall and 44 percent from behind the arc. Hopefully it is just a slump, but the C's are 28 games into the season. If Eddie is not making shots, then he is pretty much useless, because that is what he is here to do. I would not make any rash decisions like benching him, etc., but he definitely bears watching because he has been shooting poorly for much of the year.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2009, 12:01:00 PM »

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I really haven't been pleased with Eddie this year. He seems really out of it. I mean Eddie is one of my favorite players I have followed him since he was in Miami. I love Eddie but right now on the side of winning I really do think and Eddie Nate swap would make this team much better. I can see Nate scoring 30 points a lot easier then Eddie can. Also he can play with the ball in his hands. If you ever see Eddie shoot off the dribble its not very good. Or do you ever see Eddie drive? I think Nate would make this team so much better at this point. But then again if we keep Eddie i can live with that cause I love the energy he brings and almost a swagger to this team. So we will see. I have a feeling Danny sees Nate is out there and if Eddie keeps playing the way he is, Nate might be wearing Green.

He can score 30 easier, but it would take away the flow of the offense.  House is taking shots within the team, eventually the shots will fall.  Just give it time.  He's too good of a shooter not to.
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Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2009, 01:08:54 PM »

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I think things will be better once Marquis Daniels is back.  Right now he's having to handle the ball (or consequently Ray or Paul is having to handle the ball) more than he should.  Once Daniels is back, hopefully this problem will fade away and House can focus on what he does best, shooting. 

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2009, 01:26:19 PM »

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I Feel that the c's need to bench him or have him play in spurts with the 1st team 2nd and 3rd string. He's not producing and he can't dribble nor create his own shot. I say this only because Nate Robinson is available and is a better player to provide what the 2nd team needs.

Eddie House: Will shoot, but needs a play to be called for him in order to be open 1st. Can't create his own shot, but will try when under major pressure to put the ball on the floor.

Tony Allen: can't shoot but will shoot..lol although he tries, but he's not good at creating his own shot. He's at best turning defense in to offense.

Brian Scalabrine: Will shoot, and will defend, but he also cannot create his own shot.

Marquis Daniels: Can't shoot, will create his own shot, decent ball handler but extremely slow, and seems to be handicapped athletically at times..lol

we have yet to see these guys play significant minutes
Giddens (idk, not intrigued) ???
Walker (has an upside)
Hudson (has an upside)

With all that said our bench is missing one ultimate guy thats on the market to fill the void. Hopefully we land Nate "The Great" Robinson

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I agree with you that I'm not in love with our bench and think Nate could help.

It's just that he's a better player.

I don't buy the notion that Nate is ruining the Knicks. We're talking about the Knicks. They have horrid management and a horrid team. It's beginning to seem to me that every year they have another player they try to blame their failure on. First it's Marbury. Then he comes here and gives a good and honest effort. Now it's Nate. I'm sure once he moves on he'll play ok again. There is no way we're going to lose to the Cavs because Nate brings bad chemistry here. Marbury didn't ruin us. Sheed didn't ruin us. Neither would Nate.

I don't understand why some people are so high on Sheed, but then point fingers at other players as trouble guys or something. That makes no sense to me. It's like if Lakers fans loved Artest, but thought they wouldn't want Lebron cause he has a bad attitude or something.

Wait a second. Sheed hasn't been known as a cancer in the lockeroom on any team. To my knowledge, he has not been benched for maturity issues, or what not. Nate played his last game on Dec 1: that's 11 games he's been benched. Even if you want to argue D'Antoni is just proving he can't handle certain players, that's the reality right now.

Rasheed's problem is that he always get in it with the refs, and even if you want to argue I'm prisoner of the moment from yesterdays' game, I think Kobe's the same way; he just doesn't get as many T's cause he's the best player in the game right now. But I also saw him get into it with the refs in the NBA Finals. Point is though, Rasheed's problem isn't with other teammates (or coaching staff) like it seems to be for Nate.

I'm only willing to consider Nate IF he's bought out because I do agree that the Knicks just seem to be in shambles as an organization. I couldn't care more for how a player plays "defense" for a coach that doesn't even emphasize it, either (although it has been said the Knicks have been playing better D without Nate).

But, unless Nate's bought out, as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing to talk about. He's not worth a trade, that's for sure.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2009, 01:46:53 PM »

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I like Eddie House, but he has been pretty bad this year. He is shooting 39 percent from the field and 37 percent from behind the arc. Last year he shot 44 percent overall and 44 percent from behind the arc. Hopefully it is just a slump, but the C's are 28 games into the season. If Eddie is not making shots, then he is pretty much useless, because that is what he is here to do. I would not make any rash decisions like benching him, etc., but he definitely bears watching because he has been shooting poorly for much of the year.
Those percentages actually aren't bad at all. Compare them to the all-time Celtics record for 3P% in a season and they don't look great, but we don't need him to do that again in order for him to be effective. So far this season, he's shooting for a higher 3P% than Ray Allen, just to give you one example. I haven't heard anything about Ray slumping. So Eddie really isn't even slumping, he's just not lighting the world on fire like he did last year. Eddie's fine, there's no chance Danny's going to replace him with Nate Robinson, let's all settle down.


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Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2009, 03:16:24 PM »

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I like Eddie House, but he has been pretty bad this year. He is shooting 39 percent from the field and 37 percent from behind the arc. Last year he shot 44 percent overall and 44 percent from behind the arc. Hopefully it is just a slump, but the C's are 28 games into the season. If Eddie is not making shots, then he is pretty much useless, because that is what he is here to do. I would not make any rash decisions like benching him, etc., but he definitely bears watching because he has been shooting poorly for much of the year.
Those percentages actually aren't bad at all. Compare them to the all-time Celtics record for 3P% in a season and they don't look great, but we don't need him to do that again in order for him to be effective. So far this season, he's shooting for a higher 3P% than Ray Allen, just to give you one example. I haven't heard anything about Ray slumping. So Eddie really isn't even slumping, he's just not lighting the world on fire like he did last year. Eddie's fine, there's no chance Danny's going to replace him with Nate Robinson, let's all settle down.

Throwing out the fact that Ray Allen is also slumping does not negate the fact that Eddie is slumping. Right now, Eddie is shooting his worst percentages since he was a Clipper in 2003-04. He has the lowest assist and rebound numbers(per game, per 36 minutes, and rates) of his entire career. His defense is definitely the worst it has been since he's been a Celtic.

I like Eddie House, I really do but at this point, if he doesn't turn things around soon, he probably needs to go with other expiring contracts for a decnt backup PG so that Daniels can play SF, the player he is traded for can run the offense and (gulp, I don't believe I'm about to say this) and Tony Allen can play the SG on the second team.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2009, 03:39:55 PM »

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I know Eddie hasn't exactly been the most productive bench player this season so far but i rather go to war in the playoffs with someone i already know and been there with before,#2its still early yet...they have only played a little over a quarter of the season and people are calling for his head.Its not like the team is in last place.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2009, 03:59:03 PM »

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BTW, in yesterday's game, Eddie became the second Celtic player I ever saw, after Scal, to throw up a 5 foot airball. That was one ugly, ugly shot.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2009, 04:24:48 PM »

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BTW, in yesterday's game, Eddie became the second Celtic player I ever saw, after Scal, to throw up a 5 foot airball. That was one ugly, ugly shot.
Tony did the same thing yesterday, along with 2 additional airballs.  It's like he starts thinking about what he's going to have for supper in the middle of the shot.
Eddie has been pretty bad this year.  I actually spent a portion of Christmas arguing with my father that Eddie has no other benefits other than shooting. 

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2009, 04:30:12 PM »

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from my observation, eddie is shooting poorly this season bc he is taking way more shots off the dribble.  he cant shoot off the dribble, he's a catch and shoot player.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2009, 04:34:08 PM »

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BTW, in yesterday's game, Eddie became the second Celtic player I ever saw, after Scal, to throw up a 5 foot airball. That was one ugly, ugly shot.
Tony did the same thing yesterday, along with 2 additional airballs.  It's like he starts thinking about what he's going to have for supper in the middle of the shot.
Eddie has been pretty bad this year.  I actually spent a portion of Christmas arguing with my father that Eddie has no other benefits other than shooting. 
I missed those but I missed most of the second and third quarters. I did see Tony's shot with 3 minutes left in the game from 19 feet away that had to be at least 16-18 inches off target to the left. Wow, that was a hideous shot for being late in the game and still having a good 7-8 seconds left on the shot clock. Couldn't help scream at the tv that Tony taking 19 footers late in a semi close game is not what is in the best interest of the Celtics.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2009, 04:49:27 PM »

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While they both shot brutal airballs against Orlando, the main difference between TA and Eddie was TA contributed to the victory, Eddie did not. I am not calling for the guy's head, but his performance this year has not been good.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2009, 05:00:31 PM »

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BTW, in yesterday's game, Eddie became the second Celtic player I ever saw, after Scal, to throw up a 5 foot airball. That was one ugly, ugly shot.
Tony did the same thing yesterday, along with 2 additional airballs.  It's like he starts thinking about what he's going to have for supper in the middle of the shot.
Eddie has been pretty bad this year.  I actually spent a portion of Christmas arguing with my father that Eddie has no other benefits other than shooting. 
I missed those but I missed most of the second and third quarters. I did see Tony's shot with 3 minutes left in the game from 19 feet away that had to be at least 16-18 inches off target to the left. Wow, that was a hideous shot for being late in the game and still having a good 7-8 seconds left on the shot clock. Couldn't help scream at the tv that Tony taking 19 footers late in a semi close game is not what is in the best interest of the Celtics.

I didn't really think it was 19 feet out and in Tony's defense, he had just hit a similar shot moments earlier.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2009, 05:30:20 PM »

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People's memory is often too short. In December 2008, Eddie House was shooting 36% from behind the arc. And 39% from the field.

This is just House being House. He goes cold for long stretches, then he becomes very hot for others one. It's been this way since he entered the league. If anyone believes there's something particularly bad about House's performance this season hasn't been playing too much attention.

The idea that having Nate Robinson instead of House would improve this team is mind-boggling. Why are people obsessed about a "2nd unit"? I'll never understand this. Regular season wins aren't really that important.

Re: Eddie House is okay, but....ummm
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2009, 05:37:52 PM »

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I Feel that the c's need to bench him or have him play in spurts with the 1st team 2nd and 3rd string. He's not producing and he can't dribble nor create his own shot. I say this only because Nate Robinson is available and is a better player to provide what the 2nd team needs.

Eddie House: Will shoot, but needs a play to be called for him in order to be open 1st. Can't create his own shot, but will try when under major pressure to put the ball on the floor.

Tony Allen: can't shoot but will shoot..lol although he tries, but he's not good at creating his own shot. He's at best turning defense in to offense.

Brian Scalabrine: Will shoot, and will defend, but he also cannot create his own shot.

Marquis Daniels: Can't shoot, will create his own shot, decent ball handler but extremely slow, and seems to be handicapped athletically at times..lol

we have yet to see these guys play significant minutes
Giddens (idk, not intrigued) ???
Walker (has an upside)
Hudson (has an upside)

With all that said our bench is missing one ultimate guy thats on the market to fill the void. Hopefully we land Nate "The Great" Robinson

Nate Robinson: Excellent ball handler, Quick as Lightning, Super Athletically gifted, Will shoot, Will create his own shots, Will carry a team, Will give his all on the court. Defensively i'm not worried if you play on the Celtics Team you will be taught team defense. Thanks & Merry X-MAS TO ALL!!! Great win for the C's today ;D ;D

I agree with almost everything you've said but Tony can create his shot and that is how he scores most of his points. I say wait till Nate gets released from the Knicks which they said they would do if they don't get a suiter for a trade.  Then I would like the Celtics to sign him and cut someone like J.R. Giddens, (use to be TA but he is playing to good now).  Eddie will bounce back the... WE definitely should not get rid of him... SHOOTERS ALWAYS TEND TO EVEN OUT!!
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