Officials unfairly Targeting Perk

[The_Truth]

if Perk wants to get more respect from refs, he has to stop barking at them, pointing fingers in their face, making them look bad. When you embarrass refs, they're going to get back at you -- plain and simple.

agreed

[moiso]

I know this isn't related to the thread topic but, i can't figure out why Perk isn't a better rebounder. Perk is one of my favorite players in the league, but when i see Joakim Noah grabbing 21 rebounds every other night, i wonder why Perks' rebound numbers are so low compared to some other bigs.

Perk tries as hard as he can.  Unfortunately he isn't as athletically gifted as some other guys.  Perk came into the league pretty much as a big stiff, and he's made himself into a very good player.  Unfortunately he's never going to rebound like Dwight Howard.

[2short]

I know this isn't related to the thread topic but, i can't figure out why Perk isn't a better rebounder. Perk is one of my favorite players in the league, but when i see Joakim Noah grabbing 21 rebounds every other night, i wonder why Perks' rebound numbers are so low compared to some other bigs.

Perk tries as hard as he can.  Unfortunately he isn't as athletically gifted as some other guys.  Perk came into the league pretty much as a big stiff, and he's made himself into a very good player.  Unfortunately he's never going to rebound like Dwight Howard.

yeah his foot speed is horrendous, he'll get a rebound if it means boxing a guy out/carving out space and the ball comes to that area
he cannot track down balls/keep his feet moving to beat man to spot

[moiso]

I know this isn't related to the thread topic but, i can't figure out why Perk isn't a better rebounder. Perk is one of my favorite players in the league, but when i see Joakim Noah grabbing 21 rebounds every other night, i wonder why Perks' rebound numbers are so low compared to some other bigs.

Perk tries as hard as he can.  Unfortunately he isn't as athletically gifted as some other guys.  Perk came into the league pretty much as a big stiff, and he's made himself into a very good player.  Unfortunately he's never going to rebound like Dwight Howard.

yeah his foot speed is horrendous, he'll get a rebound if it means boxing a guy out/carving out space and the ball comes to that area
he cannot track down balls/keep his feet moving to beat man to spot

right.  And he can't jump multiple times in succession like Noah and others.  He tries to get position and he pretty much gets one crack at the ball.

[hwangjini_1]

The Celtics should send a complaint into the league office about a couple of Perk's offensive fouls tonight. That last one in the 4th quarter was just a God awful call.

just curious, but does anyone have any videos of these calls?

the refs have long called offensive fouls against perk. a few years ago i watched him carefully to see what was happening, and by gosh, he did commit a lot of offensive fouls.

perk would build a head of steam, mentally commit to a shot, put his head down, and then come hell or high water he would try to bull his way into the lane and thereby knock people over.

at times it seemed that other coaches/players had figured out perk's limited repetoire and would set up good defenses against it.

this year, perk is MUCH better on offense, but the calls this year maybe are a residual affect of early bull dozer moves by perk.

[RAcker]

They are unfairly calling moving screens on him from time to time, but the tech was a legit call.  He doesn't help himself by complaining after the ref saw he poke his elbow into someone's chest.

I agree with those that have said you have to help yourself sometimes by not complaining about every single thing.  It's okay to bark, but make sure it's about something legit when you do it or they'll just get tired of it.

I wish I could take my own advice sometimes. 

[QuinielaBox]

I know this isn't related to the thread topic but, i can't figure out why Perk isn't a better rebounder. Perk is one of my favorite players in the league, but when i see Joakim Noah grabbing 21 rebounds every other night, i wonder why Perks' rebound numbers are so low compared to some other bigs.

When Joakim Noah's rookie contract is up, I want him to play for the Celtics. We can trade him Glen Davis, Scalabrine, and Tony Allen for him. I wanted him to be the 5th pick of the Celtics if no suitable trade was available to the Celtics at the time (2007). You have to admit that Noah, Perkins, and Jefferson would be a formidable young big man combination in todays game.

[KJ33]

The next legal screen he sets will be the first.After having been one of his biggest critics for a long time, I've long since come to love what Perk brings to this team, and I've been thrilled by his progress over the last couple of years.  But perhaps when he stops constantly jawing at the refs and looking stunned on moving screens, he'll be more likely to get the benefit of the doubt.

Or he could set screens legally...but that would really be re-inventing the wheel, since almost no one does at this point.
-sw

So, why is it so difficult to sat a legal pick? I mean you just have to stand still and not move. I can do that.

I beg to differ, I'll be the one who you set the screen on, and we'll see if you move or not.  When the guy you are screening comes barreling full force into you, it is EXTREMELY hard to remain completely still, some degree of bracing, or moving out of it early is very natural.  If you don't think so, take me up on the demonstration and I'll show you.  I had my shoulder separated while setting a very legal screen that the man who was being screened decided to just plow right through.  And this was a long way from the NBA and those bodies, I assure you.

[wdleehi]

I just get frustrated watching guys like Big Z and Gasol basically walk the defenders in the opposite direction on screens and never get whistled. 


I just wish David Stern cared about constancy in calling fouls across the board.

[dark_lord]

the majority of screens by the nba's big men are illegal screens.  what bugs me is when they are inconsistent in calling it.  you could call a ton of moving screens each game.....the same way you could call lane violations when shooting free throws.  just more crappy inconsistent officiating

[Donoghus]

Its the "look" of Perkin's screens that get him.  Lets face it, almost all the screens set in the NBA are moving screens.  The ones who get away with it, sell it better. 

Perk just doesn't sell it very well. 

[TrueGreen]

I know this isn't related to the thread topic but, i can't figure out why Perk isn't a better rebounder. Perk is one of my favorite players in the league, but when i see Joakim Noah grabbing 21 rebounds every other night, i wonder why Perks' rebound numbers are so low compared to some other bigs.

Perk is often blocking out the other team's main rebounder and this often takes him out of position to get the rebound himself. By what Perk does it enables his teammates to get the rebound. I don't think Perk needs to do a better job, his teammates do. Just to add, Perk is the type of player that does things that only coaches and other players notice. In Noah's case, how many rebounds does he get when he's being defended by Perk? I don't think he would get 21 rebounds against Perk.

[TrueGreen]

I don't think officials unfairly target Perk, they just make bad calls on him. Of course he does foul on some screens. He sets alot so he's going to be called alot. But, when Perk sets a good screen, he holds it and then moves to the basket. The officials see him moving and make the bad call, but the move was made when the pick part of the play was over.

[Chris]

Refs target Perk because he has gained a reputation early in his career as a guy who can't set a good pick, as well as a guy who can't control his temper. 

Fair or not, it is incredibly easy to get a reputation in the league from the refs, and it is just as hard to get rid of it. 

While it may be unfair, this is simply how the league works, and for every negative call Perk gets, Pierce, Allen, and KG gets a positive one because of their reputations.  Even Sheed gets away with a lot of contact on defense that other guys do not get away with, because he is known as a great defender. 

Now, with the technicals, it is a problem with Sheed and Perk.  But unfortunately, they did a lot to bring it upon themselves.  They have both made a career of showing up refs and complaining non-stop.  If they can't see how that makes them a target for quick T's, then I don't know what to tell them.

[EJPLAYA]

I think today's game answered this question for us...