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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2009, 04:10:24 PM »

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In my honest opinion, we could use A.I. at times when Rondo is stinking, just to show him he needs to bring it all the time. Heck, we might even benefit when A.I. would be on the court.

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2009, 04:17:31 PM »

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I'm torn on this issue. Sure, he can get hot and carry the load, but he also could be devastating to the chemistry of the squad.
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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2009, 04:24:07 PM »

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I'm torn on this issue. Sure, he can get hot and carry the load, but he also could be devastating to the chemistry of the squad.

Like the chemistry of our squad is so good right now?

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2009, 07:58:31 PM »

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I dont buy the "chemistry killer" stuff about the guy. The guy has been a warrior throughout his career. Guys like that can be infectious but usually in a good way. That is to say, their competitiveness rubs off. I would ten times rather have a guy on my team who is so mad that he lost a game that he cant see straight then a guy who's hugging and consoling his teammates because they got beat! That fire is what drives teams to be champions. Do you really think there is another guy in the NBA who wants a title any worse then A.I.? Remember KG howling after we won two years ago? Imagine what Iverson would do to win a title, his legacy would be much more secure with one. I think there is a real chance he comes here.

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2009, 08:34:56 PM »

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I'm torn on this issue. Sure, he can get hot and carry the load, but he also could be devastating to the chemistry of the squad.

Like the chemistry of our squad is so good right now?

ZING! My point exactly. Sheed never knows when to hit 3's, and Rondo is okay with letting his man blow past him. As great as this team is RIGHT NOW, they're aren't playing like it. They're not the same team that blew out the Cavs for 20 in game 1 of the season.
The other point I wanna make is bringing AI in w/ House can't be any worse than the lineup that was out there late in the game last night - Rondo, House, Ray, Pierce and Sheed
Even at 40, I'd say AI is fast enough to stay in front of his man better than Rondo
Can't stop, Rondo!

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2009, 09:36:06 PM »

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If Allen Iverson joined the Celtics late during this season, he wouldn't be sacrificing much of his career stats going into the playoffs, and would immediately be able to pursue that elusive first NBA championship. Right now his career ppg is at exactly 27.0, so any additional playing time with a non contender wouldn't do anything positive for his stats. A.I. needs to play for a contender, or at the very least on a winning franchise.

In the right situation he would be more than willing to come off of the bench - he agreed to do so in Detroit; however there were some administrative issues, as well as issues with his own teammates that caused the Pistons to tank halfway through last season and then stumble into the 8th seed of the Eastern conference en route to last year's playoffs, in order to be demolished by Lebron James' Cavaliers in 4 games.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/091001&sportCat=nba

^Detroit's inability to make the 'Allen Iverson Project' work, combined with the fact that by now they have completely dismantled their team's nucleus (and the fact that the rest of the so-called championship contenders in the East have all done well to improve and upgrade their rosters since the Iverson-Billups trade) seem to spell gloom for the Pistons chances of being a legitimate playoff threat for at least the forseable future. For now one can only hope that when Lebron and the 'Big Freeze' ( ,Shaq, 'Witness Protection Program' ... ) visit the Palace at Aurburn hills, the scene won't resemble that of say, the Detroit morgue:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/01/news/economy/_morgue/index.htm

Sadly, considering the abject situation in that city following the collapse of their version of the 'Big 3' (the automobile manufacturing giants GM, Chrystler and Ford), Detroit fans can surely not afford to spend so much money on talent that, because of mis-communication within their organization, ultimately goes to waste. I remember at one point, seeing Allen Iverson appear in a car commercial wearing a Pistons jersey, if that is any indication of how important the auto industry is to the economy of not only Detroit, but the entire country.

Let's hope that Iverson is able to turn his career around and remain relevant and productive if he decides to return to the league. Pound for pound he is without a doubt the best player this league has ever seen.
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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2009, 09:49:08 PM »

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If Allen Iverson joined the Celtics late during this season, he wouldn't be sacrificing much of his career stats going into the playoffs, and would immediately be able to pursue that elusive first NBA championship. Right now his career ppg is at exactly 27.0, so any additional playing time with a non contender wouldn't do anything positive for his stats. A.I. needs to play for a contender, or at the very least on a winning franchise.

In the right situation he would be more than willing to come off of the bench - he agreed to do so in Detroit; however there were some administrative issues, as well as issues with his own teammates that caused the Pistons to tank halfway through last season and then stumble into the 8th seed of the Eastern conference en route to last year's playoffs, in order to be demolished by Lebron James' Cavaliers in 4 games.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/091001&sportCat=nba

^Detroit's inability to make the 'Allen Iverson Project' work, combined with the fact that by now they have completely dismantled their team's nucleus (and the fact that the rest of the so-called championship contenders in the East have all done well to improve and upgrade their rosters since the Iverson-Billups trade) seem to spell gloom for the Pistons chances of being a legitimate playoff threat for at least the forseable future. For now one can only hope that when Lebron and the 'Big Freeze' ( ,Shaq, 'Witness Protection Program' ... ) visit the Palace at Aurburn hills, the scene won't resemble that of say, the Detroit morgue:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/01/news/economy/_morgue/index.htm

Sadly, considering the abject situation in that city following the collapse of their version of the 'Big 3' (the automobile manufacturing giants GM, Chrystler and Ford), Detroit fans can surely not afford to waste so much money on talent that, because of mis-communication within their organization, ultimately goes to waste. I remember at one point, seeing Allen Iverson appear in a car commercial wearing a Pistons jersey, if that is any indication of how important the auto industry is to the economy of not only Detroit, but the entire country.

Let's hope that Iverson is able to turn his career around and remain relevant and productive if he decides to return to the league. Pound for pound he is without a doubt the best player this league has ever seen.

That Detroit Morgue story is horrible. I think its kind of demeaning to use it as a comparison to an NBA situation.

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2009, 10:20:50 PM »

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I really think the Celtics are going to sign A.I. I dont believe it will be in the next two weeks, I do believe that it will be maybe late December, early January. I really wouldn't mind Iverson here but where will the minutes. Go I mean i am on the fence with this one because he could be a real good opportunity to have him come off the bench, but where does Eddie's mins. go? Marquis's mins go? Big Baby, and sheed? So we will see, will be interesting but i hope he comes here and takes a back seat and wins a ring.

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2009, 10:50:11 PM »

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63014/20091126/iverson_believed_to_be_reconsidering_comeback/

Haha he already wants to come back. He will end up on the C's by the end of the year I bet....

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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2009, 10:50:49 PM »

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63014/20091126/iverson_believed_to_be_reconsidering_comeback/

Haha he already wants to come back. He will end up on the C's by the end of the year I bet....

i hope if the Cs are thinking about doing this they do it sooner rather than later.

1. if they do it sooner and it doesn't work out, they can still have time to do something else.

2. if it does work out, then the team will have that much more time really find a groove....

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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2009, 11:13:06 PM »

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Sigh.  MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2009, 11:16:10 PM »

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I really think the Celtics are going to sign A.I. I dont believe it will be in the next two weeks, I do believe that it will be maybe late December, early January. I really wouldn't mind Iverson here but where will the minutes. Go I mean i am on the fence with this one because he could be a real good opportunity to have him come off the bench, but where does Eddie's mins. go? Marquis's mins go? Big Baby, and sheed? So we will see, will be interesting but i hope he comes here and takes a back seat and wins a ring.

Easily put... the minutes will come from Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. Eddie House has no worries. Most likely his minutes will increase. Doc doesn't mind playing his bench as long as they can produce and compete. AI will play with both starters and bench players. I LOVE THIS IDEA ;D Can't wait until it becomes a reality. Much Needed.

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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2009, 11:26:52 PM »

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63014/20091126/iverson_believed_to_be_reconsidering_comeback/

Haha he already wants to come back. He will end up on the C's by the end of the year I bet....

i hope if the Cs are thinking about doing this they do it sooner rather than later.

1. if they do it sooner and it doesn't work out, they can still have time to do something else.

2. if it does work out, then the team will have that much more time really find a groove....
I'm not so sure getting AI would be that much of an upgrade. By bringing him in we'd lose House's contributions for the most part.

That's assuming that he could actually stomach Eddie House style minutes and role....

Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2009, 11:34:24 PM »

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Sigh.  MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

  Look at the bright side. The "bring back Antione" threads are pretty much gone...

LOL. For now. I'm sure as soon as a roster spot opens up the bring back Toine threads will resurface.
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Re: Allen Iverson Is Unretiring, I knew he wasn't done
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2009, 02:34:26 AM »

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Maybe we will first try to work Baby back into the rotation, and once it's done, try it with Iverson. Maybe we want both to come in at the same time? Who knows...