We Are Too Old

[housecall]

The avg.age of 5 top teams in the NBA are:
1.Dallas 28.7
2.Denver 27.4
3.Lakers 27.3
4.Cavs 26.9
5.Magic 28.7

the avg.age of the Celtics is 27.9...how is it we are to old to win ?On our 2007-08 team we had PJ Brown 38yrs.old and J.Posey32yrs.alone with several other players in their early 30's when we won the championship.

 

[Casperian]

The avg.age of 5 top teams in the NBA are:
1.Dallas 28.7
2.Denver 27.4
3.Lakers 27.3
4.Cavs 26.9
5.Magic 28.7

the avg.age of the Celtics is 27.9...how is it we are to old to win ?On our 2007-08 team we had PJ Brown 38yrs.old and J.Posey32yrs.alone with several other players in their early 30's when we won the championship.

Because Giddens, Walker or Tony Allen don´t play.

[Brickowski]

These average ages don't tell the story.  The Celtics are old because they are playing old.  Too slow.  Lazy. Perimeter oriented.

[LB3533]

These average ages don't tell the story.  The Celtics are old because they are playing old.  Too slow.  Lazy. Perimeter oriented.

I don't agree with the above.

I most certainly do not agree that we are a perimeter oriented team.

Of our 1008 team Field Goal Attempts, 238 have been from the 3 point line, 23.6% of our total.

We are tied it the league in FG%, you just don't get to the top by mindlessly "bombing away". You get to the top by sharing the ball, finding the best miss-matches and the open man.

A true perimeter oriented team would be the Magic, or the Knicks, not Boston.

[Brickowski]

I'd like to see these stats for the first 7 games as compared to the last 6.

I'd also like to see those stats for teams under .500 vs teams over .500.

[footey]

The avg.age of 5 top teams in the NBA are:
1.Dallas 28.7
2.Denver 27.4
3.Lakers 27.3
4.Cavs 26.9
5.Magic 28.7

the avg.age of the Celtics is 27.9...how is it we are to old to win ?On our 2007-08 team we had PJ Brown 38yrs.old and J.Posey32yrs.alone with several other players in their early 30's when we won the championship.

 

Our big 3 were two years younger (6 total years younger) when we won the championship. These last 2 years typically have a sharp curve of regression, going from early thirties to middle thirties for each guy.  Not to mention our achilles' heal two years ago were the young bucks like the Hawks.

[dark_lord]

These average ages don't tell the story.  The Celtics are old because they are playing old.  Too slow.  Lazy. Perimeter oriented.

here is a novel idea......maybe, just maybe, they are in a funk/slump?!?!  it has nothing to do with age.

[scoop]

I'd like to see these stats for the first 7 games as compared to the last 6.

I'd also like to see those stats for teams under .500 vs teams over .500.

What stats exactly?

[ManUp]

Am I the only one that thinks, with the exception of the 1st, we had Orlando where we wanted them all night. Carter had a horrible game with a good finish and We shut down Howard. What kept us from winning was out inability to hit the open shot. I know the offense got Poerce-centric but it's only because the offense wasn't capitalizing on the open shots and we needed some forced scoring. We are bigger than the Magic and we are better defenders all we need was the shots to fall and we got the shots we wanted. Age wasn't our problem in Orlando as for the other games it has been effort. We got up for Orlando and it was a great we just didn't have the shooting touch.

[kozlodoev]

Am I the only one that thinks, with the exception of the 1st, we had Orlando where we wanted them all night.

If "where we wanted them" was 4-6 points ahead of us, I guess you're right.

[GreenFaith1819]

Am I the only one that thinks, with the exception of the 1st, we had Orlando where we wanted them all night. Carter had a horrible game with a good finish and We shut down Howard. What kept us from winning was out inability to hit the open shot. I know the offense got Poerce-centric but it's only because the offense wasn't capitalizing on the open shots and we needed some forced scoring. We are bigger than the Magic and we are better defenders all we need was the shots to fall and we got the shots we wanted. Age wasn't our problem in Orlando as for the other games it has been effort. We got up for Orlando and it was a great we just didn't have the shooting touch.

I agree...if the C's and Magic were to play that game over again, we beat them by about 10 pts, IMO.

KG is definitely coming back..his ability to slow down Rashard Lewis thoroughly impressed me. And he had some key blocks.

If we played that game over again, no way in world that Sheed goes 4 for 16, or our team goes 2 for 19 from the arc.

[Jon]

It's really just a bad patch here.  Was Rasheed's age the reason he missed 8 threes?  I don't think so; he could hit threes still when he's 55. 

Things will get better, just wait.  Two weeks from now we'll be in the midst of some 5+ game winning streak and it'll be all kumbaya around here again. 

[LB3533]

I'd like to see these stats for the first 7 games as compared to the last 6.

1st 7 Games

3PT Team Shooting 61/144 = 42.4% (pretty good; when we were 6-0 we were shooting 45.2% and that would be good for 1st rank in the league [Cavs at 44% right now])

- That's 20.6 3PA per game (7 games) [9th rank team most trigger happy.]

- 540 Total FGA over that 7 game span.

144/540 = 26.7% (were 3 point attempts)

Last 6 games

3PT Team Shooting 22/94 = 23.4% (turd awful for a team)

94/468 = 20.1% (were 3 point attempts)

- 15.7 3PA per game (6 games). That would 23rd rank trigger happy team

Conclusion: we were a hot shooting team from the 3 point line over the 1st half of the season so far. The back half, we have been god awful from the 3 point arc. We've taken less attempts per game and less attempts as a whole with respect to our team's total FGA's.

Sheed: Last 6 games his 3 point shooting is 5/32 = 15.6% on 5.3 attempts per game. (37% on 6.6 attempts per game over the first 7 games)

I'd also like to see those stats for teams under .500 vs teams over .500.

I don't think looking at these stats for other teams are relevant or will do any sort of good. We have our squad and our own personnel. We are going to play our game and (hopefully) make the adjustments accordingly.

[footey]

Missing the 3's is not why we are losing consistently. We are losing because, when we miss our 3's, we don't have a plan B that is working. That is what worries me.

[housecall]

The avg.age of 5 top teams in the NBA are:
1.Dallas 28.7
2.Denver 27.4
3.Lakers 27.3
4.Cavs 26.9
5.Magic 28.7

the avg.age of the Celtics is 27.9...how is it we are to old to win ?On our 2007-08 team we had PJ Brown 38yrs.old and J.Posey32yrs.alone with several other players in their early 30's when we won the championship.

 

Our big 3 were two years younger (6 total years younger) when we won the championship. These last 2 years typically have a sharp curve of regression, going from early thirties to middle thirties for each guy.  Not to mention our achilles' heal two years ago were the young bucks like the Hawks.

age30-33 is not considered middle thirties...age35plus is middle thirties.I think to much emphasis is being placed on players age here,and not enough on individuals slumping,or maybe some of it is figuring out chemistry,who is playing best with whom.This is where coaching is responsible...not trying to throw Doc under a bus,but he could tigthen up on his game(coaching) as well.