Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!

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I'm not lobbying for Ellis specifically, the point is while we've been discussing this topic it's become clear he's going to be available, and  he's a superior talent to Posey or Nocioni or the various guys who are discussed ad naseum on this board. Danny Ainge thinks about talent and flexibility first. Nocioni doesn't offer either.

 Besides, my source tells me Nocioni has NEVER been discussed with the Kings without the names of superior players on that team being in the same sentence. The Celtics are not trading for the guy -- period, end of discussion. Let's talk about something the Celtics might actually want.

I disagree that Nocioni wouldn't add anything to the team.

I actually think - regardless of whether he is available or wanted - he is the right basic type of component that we need.

Our bench players are by and large not fire-burners. Sheed can get heated, but it's mostly at the refs. Daniels has a very laid back demeanor as does Shelden. I think talent-wise these guys are terrific additions to the bench, but they just don't play with a ferociousness.

Pose and Nocioni both play with an edge and that is one thing both would bring to the bench. (Again Leon would fill that bill if he was there and coming back midseason)

but the added thing about Noci and Pose are that they would fill a positional need as well. I like Daniels as that backup SG and PG (for ball handling purposes), but would rather another guy be there to spell Paul. someone with a little more size than Daniels....

so overall, Noci is the right type of player. he plays with an edge and he's a 6-8ish SF/PF. That's what i personally am looking for as a midseason pickup.

I hear that. I like his competitiveness as well, tho I’d argue his energy is not what it was a couple of years ago. This deal – or lack there of – is about his contract. Teams won’t take it without relieving themselves of something cumbersome in the process.

[winsomme]

I'm not lobbying for Ellis specifically, the point is while we've been discussing this topic it's become clear he's going to be available, and  he's a superior talent to Posey or Nocioni or the various guys who are discussed ad naseum on this board. Danny Ainge thinks about talent and flexibility first. Nocioni doesn't offer either.

 Besides, my source tells me Nocioni has NEVER been discussed with the Kings without the names of superior players on that team being in the same sentence. The Celtics are not trading for the guy -- period, end of discussion. Let's talk about something the Celtics might actually want.

I disagree that Nocioni wouldn't add anything to the team.

I actually think - regardless of whether he is available or wanted - he is the right basic type of component that we need.

Our bench players are by and large not fire-burners. Sheed can get heated, but it's mostly at the refs. Daniels has a very laid back demeanor as does Shelden. I think talent-wise these guys are terrific additions to the bench, but they just don't play with a ferociousness.

Pose and Nocioni both play with an edge and that is one thing both would bring to the bench. (Again Leon would fill that bill if he was there and coming back midseason)

but the added thing about Noci and Pose are that they would fill a positional need as well. I like Daniels as that backup SG and PG (for ball handling purposes), but would rather another guy be there to spell Paul. someone with a little more size than Daniels....

so overall, Noci is the right type of player. he plays with an edge and he's a 6-8ish SF/PF. That's what i personally am looking for as a midseason pickup.

I hear that. I like his competitiveness as well, tho I’d argue his energy is not what it was a couple of years ago. This deal – or lack there of – is about his contract. Teams won’t take it without relieving themselves of something cumbersome in the process.

true. he certainly is overpaid, but that said, whomever the Cs trade for, it's most likely going to be a player who has serious question marks or a contract that their current team wants to unload.

the package that we can give teams isn't really sending a lot of talent in the other direction. So, we are most likely going to have to take on a somewhat unappealing contract.

I guess we could trad BBD, but i'm not sure that is a wise move.

[Redz]

Scal was on 98.5 The Sports Hub this morning and said from the horse's mouth (Ainge) that there was zippo to this rumor.  He said it was something thrown together by Dalembert's agent.

Scal also said that he wants to stay in Boston forever, but if Danny can use him, or anyone, to improve the team then he understands that that's just part of the deal of being an NBA player and he'd move on.  But he loves it here.

He said Ainge would absolutely let him know if he was working on something.

Scal's a pretty awesome interview.

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Scal can come back for the vet min next year....

[Chris]

Scal was on 98.5 The Sports Hub this morning and said from the horse's mouth (Ainge) that there was zippo to this rumor.  He said it was something thrown together by Dalembert's agent.

Scal also said that he wants to stay in Boston forever, but if Danny can use him, or anyone, to improve the team then he understands that that's just part of the deal of being an NBA player and he'd move on.  But he loves it here.

He said Ainge would absolutely let him know if he was working on something.

Scal's a pretty awesome interview.

I heard that too.  Great stuff.  I hope they groom him to eventually take over for Tommy.  He would make a great color guy.

[Eric_Suede]

I don't like this AT ALL. Personally I think we have a championship franchise right now. Come on guys lets not panic cause we lost 2 in a row. When You talk "championship" favorites for 2010, the C's are definitely in the conversation. All we need to do is focus on chemistry and doing our thing. That's it. Relax Danny,

[Redz]

I don't like this AT ALL. Personally I think we have a championship franchise right now. Come on guys lets not panic cause we lost 2 in a row. When You talk "championship" favorites for 2010, the C's are definitely in the conversation. All we need to do is focus on chemistry and doing our thing. That's it. Relax Danny,

Who says this was Danny's idea?

Danny's never going to relax, because it's his job to keep trying to improve the team.

That said, I agree with you, and like the cards we're holding in our hand.

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I don't like this AT ALL. Personally I think we have a championship franchise right now. Come on guys lets not panic cause we lost 2 in a row. When You talk "championship" favorites for 2010, the C's are definitely in the conversation. All we need to do is focus on chemistry and doing our thing. That's it. Relax Danny,

Who says this was Danny's idea?

Danny's never going to relax, because it's his job to keep trying to improve the team.

That said, I agree with you, and like the cards we're holding in our hand.

Yeah no relaxing Danny. The season is young...

[celticsclay]

Scal can come back for the vet min next year....

He should retire and become club ambassador

[JSD]

I don't like this AT ALL. Personally I think we have a championship franchise right now. Come on guys lets not panic cause we lost 2 in a row. When You talk "championship" favorites for 2010, the C's are definitely in the conversation. All we need to do is focus on chemistry and doing our thing. That's it. Relax Danny,

Who says this was Danny's idea?

Danny's never going to relax, because it's his job to keep trying to improve the team.

That said, I agree with you, and like the cards we're holding in our hand.

I do to. but because the Celtics aren't going to be under the cap until after the 2012 season, I'd like to see another piece added through our expiring contracts.

[greenwise]

So is this rumor dead finally? We just know Scal's radio interview and the globe article...

Is this happening or should we forget about it and move on? 

[Redz]

So is this rumor dead finally? We just know Scal's radio interview and the globe article...

Is this happening or should we forget about it and move on? 

What, you don't believe the gospel of Scal?