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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2009, 07:15:54 AM »

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This would be a great deal.  I'd welcome Nocioni to Boston.
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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2009, 07:19:08 AM »

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oohhh trade rumors. Havent heard a legit one in forever it seems.

Anyway, as a long time advocate of Nocioni to Boston, I give this deal my approval. Get it done, especially with Paul a little banged up and Eddie House falling off the planet into a black hole.

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2009, 07:26:32 AM »

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oohhh trade rumors. Havent heard a legit one in forever it seems.

Anyway, as a long time advocate of Nocioni to Boston, I give this deal my approval. Get it done, especially with Paul a little banged up and Eddie House falling off the planet into a black hole.

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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 07:33:06 AM »

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oohhh trade rumors. Havent heard a legit one in forever it seems.

Anyway, as a long time advocate of Nocioni to Boston, I give this deal my approval. Get it done, especially with Paul a little banged up and Eddie House falling off the planet into a black hole.

Yup ... I'm liking this a lot ... and I love the new sig, Bud ... very simple, but very classy! (TP)

Thanks man.. Gotta thank Kiorrik, though. Came out of the blue with this gem. I'm loving it like Michael Moore at McDonalds  ;)

Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2009, 07:42:06 AM »

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Hmmmm, I'd actually hate to lose Scal--great chemistry guy,maybe he'd get bought out and return?

Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2009, 07:43:29 AM »

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As much as losing Scal wouldnt be great. Nocioni would be amazing for this team.  I have always been a big fan of his.  Other teams hate him because of his intensity and hard play which would make him an instant fan favorite. 
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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2009, 07:44:29 AM »

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Roy, you can probably give me some insight on this but if the C's acquire Nocioni, will they have the opportunity of re-signing Ray, Marquis, House and Williams this summer? How many money will they have left without using the MLE?

Basically, does acquiring Nocioni means goodbye to Ray next summer? If yes, I'm all against this deal.

In a nutshell...  it depends.  Under the rules of the NBA, we'd be able to re-sign Ray without a problem.  The thing that might limit a move like this is our internal budget (which we don't know).

This year, we have approximately $85 million committed in salary.  Next season, if Pierce doesn't opt out, we have around $64 million (counting Rondo's new deal).  That means, if we want to keep the same budget, Danny could add $21 million in payroll.

Nocioni makes $6,850,000 next season.  Adding him means the team would have around $14.1 million, if the Celts want to spend as much next year as it is spending this year.  Obviously, they can have a reduced budget next year, or an increased one.

Let's say Ray takes $8 million.  That would leave us with $6.1 million to spend, and the following players under contract:

Perk
KG
Pierce
Ray
Rondo

Rasheed
BBD
Nocioni
Walker
Hudson

We'd have approximately $6 million or so (or roughly the amount of the MLE) to fill out the rest of the roster, with guys like Eddie House, Marquis Daniels, and Shelden Williams as free agents.

In other words, it would be tight, but doable.  If Wyc agreed to add another $5 million in salary, though, it would obviously be very feasible.  That's probably the debate the Celts are having currently.

(Keep in mind, adding $5 million in salary means adding $10 million in payroll, since we're over the luxury tax.  It's a lot of money.  One way to potentially get Wyc some relief would be if Pierce opted out and agreed to a salary for around $5 million less next year, in return for a longer deal.)

But we'll only have the MLE and Vet Min deals, correct? The Celts don't have Bird Rights on Eddie, Sheldon or Marquis, i believe.

So that more than anything will limited what we can spend...
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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2009, 07:53:46 AM »

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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2009, 07:54:03 AM »

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oohhh trade rumors. Havent heard a legit one in forever it seems.

Anyway, as a long time advocate of Nocioni to Boston, I give this deal my approval. Get it done, especially with Paul a little banged up and Eddie House falling off the planet into a black hole.

Yup ... I'm liking this a lot ... and I love the new sig, Bud ... very simple, but very classy! (TP)
I like the new sig, but I miss the old lon3ly toaster sig... :)
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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2009, 07:57:09 AM »

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Hmmmm, I'd actually hate to lose Scal--great chemistry guy,maybe he'd get bought out and return?
I don't think it would be necessary.  Can't you hear the new chants - - NOCE EE OH NEE, clap, clap, clap clap clap.

Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2009, 08:01:52 AM »

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But we'll only have the MLE and Vet Min deals, correct? The Celts don't have Bird Rights on Eddie, Sheldon or Marquis, i believe.

So that more than anything will limited what we can spend...

We'll have Eddie's Bird rights.  We can give Shelden 120% of the minimum salary, and we can give Daniels a 20% raise over his current deal.  If we want to sign Shelden or Daniels to more than that, we'd have to dip into the MLE.

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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2009, 08:03:11 AM »

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Love the deal.  Hope it gets done.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2009, 08:35:52 AM »

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 If he's intense, as rumored, I'd be all for it...We need an extra guy who can get the team riled with their intensity and effort, ala Leon. 

Could Nocioni do some stints at the 4 if one of Perk, KG or Sheed is out of service? 

Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2009, 08:39:50 AM »

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But we'll only have the MLE and Vet Min deals, correct? The Celts don't have Bird Rights on Eddie, Sheldon or Marquis, i believe.

So that more than anything will limited what we can spend...

We'll have Eddie's Bird rights.  We can give Shelden 120% of the minimum salary, and we can give Daniels a 20% raise over his current deal.  If we want to sign Shelden or Daniels to more than that, we'd have to dip into the MLE.

OK. Considering this dollars will be tight, so we should use our expirings for a player this year. I question whether Noce should be that guy. He's definitely lost a step, and he not nimble enough to play the 3. What do we need another 4 for?

I think we need a younger wing scorer...
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Re: Nocioni to Boston rumored by Marc Stein!
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2009, 08:52:23 AM »

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It would be nice if his contract was a little less, but I say roll the dice.  We're already old and capped out, this would definitely increase our title chance these next couple years.
Nocioni is perfect.  This guy is a psychopath when he has meaningful games to play.  He's an instigator who loves body contact and plays with incredible energy.  When things don't go his way he plays harder and harder.  I'm certain that his energy will infuse a lot of life into our 2nd unit... I mean Daniels looks half asleep out there and Sheed plays like he's coasting.  It would be great to see another KG style game face out there.