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Re: Rondo Stat Padding?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2009, 12:46:58 AM »

Offline Atzar

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He's not taking it to the hole.  10 FT's = not taking it to the hole, not with the ability to draw contact that he's flashed at times over his career.  He's had several single games where he's shot over 10 FT's. 

His form looked off to me tonight, even from what it was last year.  I wonder if maybe he's still trying to change his form, and until he gains confidence in his free throw stroke he's trying to avoid ending up at the line.  I really hope not, but it's a thought.

Re: Rondo Stat Padding?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 06:59:36 AM »

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I'm more concerned with his rebound numbers, out of everything. He just isn't hitting the glass as hard right now, and with our struggles there we could really use 6-8 boards from him nightly.. which he's more than capable of.
6-8? He's not a center. He'll be getting you 4-5 rebounds per game on a typical night, and  that's it.

He averaged over 5 last season and 9 in the playoffs. He's either the first or second best rebounding PG in the league.. He should be getting at least more than 5 on average.

Re: Rondo Stat Padding?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 07:22:46 AM »

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I sure am disappointed by the lack of aggressiveness from Rondo, but with that said, seeing how poorly he shoots his free throws, it may be a blessing not having to endure pain everytime we see him shooting freebies. :-X

Seriously, I agree that Rondo should have been more aggressive yesterday. He can be "passive" and still contribute to the team's success but it wasn't the case against Atlanta.

Re: Rondo Stat Padding?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2009, 07:31:18 AM »

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Call me a conspiracy theorist. He's not attacking the rim what so ever. Rondo wants to lead the league in assists and steals. How else can you explain 10 FTA in 9 games? His best offensive weapons are points in the paint. He won't get accolades by scoring points, but he will if he leads the league in Assists and Steals.



I've been a believer in this theory since the season started. Since game one, Rondo's play has been "stat hungry." Even in the last game versus the Hawks, Tommy was questions Rondo's motives, wondering why he wasn't taking the ball to the rack.

When we win games, in a way, it's all fun and good. Rondo can get the assists, the steals, and the girls, and it's no big deal, but when we lose, it's frustrating because you wonder if he had played a more honest game, "would we have won?"

If Rondo leads the East in assists and steals, will he start the All-Star game?

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2009, 07:49:52 AM »

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Call me a conspiracy theorist. He's not attacking the rim what so ever. Rondo wants to lead the league in assists and steals. How else can you explain 10 FTA in 9 games? His best offensive weapons are points in the paint. He won't get accolades by scoring points, but he will if he leads the league in Assists and Steals.



I've been a believer in this theory since the season started. Since game one, Rondo's play has been "stat hungry." Even in the last game versus the Hawks, Tommy was questions Rondo's motives, wondering why he wasn't taking the ball to the rack.

When we win games, in a way, it's all fun and good. Rondo can get the assists, the steals, and the girls, and it's no big deal, but when we lose, it's frustrating because you wonder if he had played a more honest game, "would we have won?"

If Rondo leads the East in assists and steals, will he start the All-Star game?


I'd say no to an All-Star appearance just based off of assists and steals. Rondo will have to show some offensive consistency (13-16 pts per game) as well as maintain his assists and steals to help his team win, much less an All-Star appearance.

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2009, 08:38:22 AM »

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I'm not sure why we're so quick to think the worse of our point guard's intentions...

Re: Rondo Stat Padding?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2009, 09:04:52 AM »

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Rondo has certainly become the new Antoine around here. Seriously, now a guy is padding his stats because he passes the ball too much? Personally, I love how he gets other guys easy shots. He is one of the only players I have ever seen that seriously doesn't care how much he scores. By getting other teammates involved, he is attempting to get them in the flow of the game. Let's all hope that his shot improves, but if it doesn't, he can still be a very very productive player.

I've said this already, but you are all crazy if you think it was Rondo's fault we lost last night. The defensive rebounding and outside shooting was horrendous- neither of which should really fall on Rondo. He has his issues, but last night wasn't one of them.

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2009, 09:22:32 AM »

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he is shooting at 60% but he can't drive to the hole and can't hit jumpshots. Not sure how he is getting 11 points a game.
Layups, layups, and then some more layups while the opposition is paying attention to Pierce, Allen, and Garnett.


So he is taking it to the hole.

Not taking it to the hole. For the most part, he is getting layups when a teammate finds him underneath unguarded. It has happened numerous times this season because the opposing team is not really guarding him. If he was taking it to the hole aggressively, he would have well more than 10 free throw attemts.

Nice to see that reasonable folks are finally realizing what has been occuring the past 2 seasons. When opponents don't take your offensive skills seriuosly you get easy baskets and for the most part Rondo has been left unguarded when playing with The Big Three daring him to shoot and cheating off him.


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I've said this already, but you are all crazy if you think it was Rondo's fault we lost last night. The defensive rebounding and outside shooting was horrendous- neither of which should really fall on Rondo. He has his issues, but last night wasn't one of them.
 
 C'mon now, call a spade a spade.  Rondo's effort last night was abysmal and he's now had 3 dog efforts since signing his $55 extension that he should get arrested for (larceny).  He wasn't a threat all night and lost Bibby defensively all night allowing him to kill us with open 3's.....yet Rondo's lack of effort didn't hurt us? He forced zero turnovers on Bibby and was invisible offensively.

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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2009, 09:23:46 AM »

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I'm not sure why we're so quick to think the worse of our point guard's intentions...

co-sign.  he has played well to date....i chalk this up as a bad game, nothing more nothing less

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2009, 09:27:29 AM »

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I'm not sure why we're so quick to think the worse of our point guard's intentions...

co-sign.  he has played well to date....i chalk this up as a bad game, nothing more nothing less

And the prior game he was benched for the entire 4th quarter in favor of Eddie House because House was defending Alston better than Rondo was.  This is not of the nothing to see variety here.  There is more going on.

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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2009, 09:33:44 AM »

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I'm not sure why we're so quick to think the worse of our point guard's intentions...

co-sign.  he has played well to date....i chalk this up as a bad game, nothing more nothing less

And the prior game he was benched for the entire 4th quarter in favor of Eddie House because House was defending Alston better than Rondo was.  This is not of the nothing to see variety here.  There is more going on.


10.3 pts, 3.7 reb, 9.2 asst, eff +19.6

those are his numbers from the first 10 games, i think that is VERY solid. 

rondo is not a perfect player by any means, but his strengths outweigh his weaknesses.  his main weakness that urks me is his poor free throw shooting. 


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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2009, 09:34:44 AM »

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I'm tired of having a point guard that can't shoot ANY sort of jump shot.

He can buy it with $55 millions. I hate to bash Rondo, but its ridiculous for a point-guard not be able to shoot. He can get 4-6 easy layups a game if he wants to. But leading the league in assists and steals gets you national recognition.

  Yes, because if there's one thing we've learned about the NBA, it's that nobody cares how many points you score...

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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2009, 10:09:01 AM »

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Maybe they can put the deal back on hold until he gets his free throw percentage above 50 percent    ;D ;D

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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2009, 10:10:06 AM »

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He has to be a triple threat(passing, driving and shooting/scoring), and right now he is a double threat. I believe that he will establish a mid range jumper but IMO Doc should let him play with the second unit during garbage time, and run 5-6 plays for him. He can shoot in the gym all he wants, but shooting is half practice and technique and half confidence which Rondo has none.
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Re: Rondo Stat Padding?
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2009, 10:45:26 AM »

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I couldn't care less about his rebouding, but I'd definitely prefer Rondo to attack the rim more.  He seemed like our best option last night since he makes Bibby look like he's in quicksand, but he refused to attack.  He really hasn't been penetrating and dishing much either.  I appreciate Rondo's unselfishness, but he has the ability to break down defenses a lot more than he has been doing this year.
And yes, it seems like he's trying to pad his assist numbers.