Judging From These Last Three Games.....

[greg683x]

Do you think maybe it might be time for Doc to re-examine this new sleep approach he brought into play this season?  This is the one they were talking about on opening night.  I believe he lets the players sleep til noon now, and doesnt do game day shoot arounds anymore.

Well, it looks like everyones shots been off lately.....and I dont know about everyone here, but personally when I was always allowed to sleep later in the day, that always meant  I could just stay up later at night.  I wonder if Doc keeps an eye on that.

I know it's kind of early to put all this under the microscope, but I cant help but think of it.

[Tai]

Well, it's an idea.

I'm sure they'll be a long talk in general.

[crownsy]

No, i think it's a bit of a reach to think that's the problem when the actual reason they are tired is pretty obvious.

 the far more logical approach is that when an older team plays a burtal stretch of 8 games in 12 nights that they get tired towards the end, as has been the norm in the nba since time immortal, but that's just me.

We just finshed what will be the worst wear and tear part of our season till after the all star break when we have a similar stretch. teams about to get 4 days off, we'll be fin.


but Judiging by the sheer amount of "washed up/tired/this team can't win it all" threads to the right ending with multiple !?'s, it appears to be just me.  

[Rondo_is_better]

No, i think it's a bit of a reach to think that's the problem when the actual reason they are tired is pretty obvious.

 the far more logical approach is that when an older team plays a burtal stretch of 8 games in 12 nights that they get tired towards the end, as has been the norm in the nba since time immortal, but that's just me.

We just finshed what will be the worst wear and tear part of our season till after the all star break when we have a similar stretch. teams about to get 4 days off, we'll be fin.


but Judiging by the sheer amount of "washed up/tired/this team can't win it all" threads to the right ending with multiple !?'s, it appears to be just me.  

There is exactly one, and it is mine. I challenge you to a duel, sir. You have brought dishonor upon my family.

[xmuscularghandix]

Tired legs, lot of games with hardly any time in between. I'd think tomorrow off, film Monday, a nice long practice Tuesday, back to the schedule on Wednesday.

Like Scal said, they'll be able to get back on track with a normal schedule that allows them to practice 2 to 3 times a week. 

[jambr380]

The Celtics are doomed, the big three are done, and Rondo is a total flop. Forget a championship, I just hope we make the playoffs...

...or maybe they aren't just going to beat every team by 20+. It's still the beginning of the season and they aren't going to be lights out from 3pt range every game. Everything is going to be just fine. If we judged every team after 2 weeks into the season, then Cleveland would have alot of splaining to do.

[xmuscularghandix]

The Celtics are doomed, the big three are done, and Rondo is a total flop. Forget a championship, I just hope we make the playoffs...

I like your style.

[greenwise]

4 things to keep in mind:


1. We are at the beginning of the season

2. We are a vet team with one of their stars coming from a severe knee injury

3. We played 8 games in 12 days

4. We are 7-1

So, relax!!!

[Drucci]

4 things to keep in mind:


1. We are at the beginning of the season

2. We are a vet team with one of their stars coming from a severe knee injury

3. We played 8 games in 12 days

4. We are 7-1

So, relax!!!

Agreed. Plus, the new sleep approch from Doc sounds great to me, because the players themselves told that they were way more effective that way. Playing 8 games in 12 days with many back to backs and few practices will get you these kind of performances. Ugly, but we still got the wins overall, so... I'm fine with it and looking forward to Wednesday. If the team plays poorly against Utah, after 4 days of rest, then maybe I'll start to worry.

[Roy Hobbs]

Do you think maybe it might be time for Doc to re-examine this new sleep approach he brought into play this season? 

I was thinking the exact same thing last night.  Cancelling morning shootaround sounded like a bad idea at the time, but I understood Doc's logic.  At this point, though, I'd strongly consider ending the experiment.

Plus, the new sleep approch from Doc sounds great to me, because the players themselves told that they were way more effective that way

I know KG said he didn't like it at all.

[Drucci]

Ha, I didn't know KG didn't like it. But, correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that Doc cancelled the morning shootarounds which were reported in the afternoon? As long as the C's still get their shootarounds, I think it's better for them to have them in the afternoon and not in the morning, especially for veterans.

[celticinorlando]

they are fine. could be denver who lost and then got blown out the next night. ugly? yes.....but they are 7-1

[kozlodoev]

I was thinking the exact same thing last night.  Cancelling morning shootaround sounded like a bad idea at the time, but I understood Doc's logic.  At this point, though, I'd strongly consider ending the experiment.

The problem really has nothing to do with shooting. We shot lights out in the first 4-5 games of the season with exactly the same regimen.

The issue is we can't defend the proverbial chair in the last three games -- teams are getting all sorts of open looks against us. Heck, below-average teams like Minesotta and the Nets made scoring on us look easy.

If you look at the box scores, the opposition is either shooting .500 from the field, .400 from three-point land, or both.

[Chris]

Well, I am biased in this discussion, but I personally think it is WAY too early to suggest that the new schedule has anything to do with their shooting.  Especially when you consider how well they shot in the first few games.  To me, it has looked a lot more like they have simply had no legs in the last few games...which is not surprising given the schedule, and the players age.  If anything, I think the sleep is more important than ever this year.

I'm sure you guys remember last year, when there also were some stretches when they shot absolutely terribly from the perimeter, and they were still having shoot-arounds then.

[Chris]

The issue is we can't defend the proverbial chair in the last three games -- teams are getting all sorts of open looks against us. Heck, below-average teams like Minesotta and the Nets made scoring on us look easy.

If you look at the box scores, the opposition is either shooting .500 from the field, .400 from three-point land, or both.

Agreed.  While the slump might have kept the C's from blowing teams out like they did the first few games, the last 3 games have been a great demonstration of lazy defense.  Rondo in particular has been terrible.  He has been relying on getting steals, and has been letting his man get wherever he wants with the ball.  There also has been way too many lapses on the weak-side, where good shooters have been left wide open for 3's, and they haven't even been running them off.

Again, this is not a symptom of a lack of a shootaround, it is a symptom of tired legs...which happens in 4 games in 5 nights.