Remember Posey

[guava_wrench]

Not overpaying Posey sure has played out well for the Celtics. I'll take Daniels for 2 million over Posey for 6m any day. I'm also glad we didn't end up sinking more money into last season which was turned out to be a lost cause with KG not getting his knee cleaned ahead of time. (To bad we wasted money on Moore and Marbury though).

New Orleans is having major problems right now with no production from the wing. Of course, it is only 2 games in. But Danny's decision to retain flexibility (which made signing Wallace and Daniels financially feasible) seems like the right move.

[RebusRankin]

Hail Danny. Excellent points.

[DerrenMatts]

Granted, Posey is making more money than what we were willing to pay him that summer, but I'm not head over heels convinced that Daniels is better than Posey (probably not what you were saying).

Marquis does things that Posey may not be able to do as well (like create scoring opportunities off the dribble), but likewise, there are some things that Posey did that Daniels does not seem to be able to do.  And its primarily on the defensive end.

I really appreciated how hard nosed and physical Posey would get on defense.  It hasn't showed up yet, but I think we may find a need for this type of wing defender on our current team.

But with that said, I am happy we got Marquis.  He's a good piece to the puzzle. 

[Bankshot]

Granted, Posey is making more money than what we were willing to pay him that summer, but I'm not head over heels convinced that Daniels is better than Posey (probably not what you were saying).

Marquis does things that Posey may not be able to do as well (like create scoring opportunities off the dribble), but likewise, there are some things that Posey did that Daniels does not seem to be able to do.  And its primarily on the defensive end.

I really appreciated how hard nosed and physical Posey would get on defense.  It hasn't showed up yet, but I think we may find a need for this type of wing defender on our current team.

But with that said, I am happy we got Marquis.  He's a good piece to the puzzle. 

I think Sheed more than makes up for the defense we got with Posey.  Sheed is the new Posey, only better.

I wonder if Posey is regretting his decision to join NO.

[revcummings]

I do remember Posey and I still miss him! Even though this season has been awesome so far! If we could trade Scal, Allen, and Giddens for Posey, I'd still do it, especially if we had a wink, wink, type of deal and they bought out Scal and we could resign him!

[Celtics17]

I am sure it would be a huge salary cap problem but imagine Posey on this current team. If everyone stayed healthy it might be one of the best defensive teams of all time. Heck, without Posey, it might still. I loved his game though. It's rare to find a player like Pose who always seems to hit the big shot or make the big play at just the right time.

[Jon]

The thing is that the whole "not paying Posey" thing only worked out "well" because KG got hurt.  If he hadn't gotten hurt and we had lost a close 7 game series to the Lakers, people wouldn't be feeling that losing Posey was no big deal.  While I agree that we certainly don't need him now, I wasn't happy how the C's management risked one of the few years that Big Three have.

[moiso]

The thing is that the whole "not paying Posey" thing only worked out "well" because KG got hurt.  If he hadn't gotten hurt and we had lost a close 7 game series to the Lakers, people wouldn't be feeling that losing Posey was no big deal.  While I agree that we certainly don't need him now, I wasn't happy how the C's management risked one of the few years that Big Three have.

Good post.  It's true.  The team is fine now, but if KG never got hurt, not having Posey could have cost us a championship.  He made a disproportionate number of clutch plays in the closing minutes of games.  He displayed incredible physical and mental toughness.  Over the long haul, Wallace and Daniels more than make up for the loss of Posey, but I still feel that in the closing minutes of a close playoff game, Posey would have the stronger impact.

[Fafnir]

Granted, Posey is making more money than what we were willing to pay him that summer, but I'm not head over heels convinced that Daniels is better than Posey (probably not what you were saying).

Marquis does things that Posey may not be able to do as well (like create scoring opportunities off the dribble), but likewise, there are some things that Posey did that Daniels does not seem to be able to do.  And its primarily on the defensive end.

I really appreciated how hard nosed and physical Posey would get on defense.  It hasn't showed up yet, but I think we may find a need for this type of wing defender on our current team.

But with that said, I am happy we got Marquis.  He's a good piece to the puzzle. 

I think Sheed more than makes up for the defense we got with Posey.  Sheed is the new Posey, only better.

I wonder if Posey is regretting his decision to join NO.

I don't think so, he wanted to get one last big contract. Plus its not like New Orleans is a lottery team...

[Fafnir]

The thing is that the whole "not paying Posey" thing only worked out "well" because KG got hurt.  If he hadn't gotten hurt and we had lost a close 7 game series to the Lakers, people wouldn't be feeling that losing Posey was no big deal.  While I agree that we certainly don't need him now, I wasn't happy how the C's management risked one of the few years that Big Three have.

Good post.  It's true.  The team is fine now, but if KG never got hurt, not having Posey could have cost us a championship.  He made a disproportionate number of clutch plays in the closing minutes of games.  He displayed incredible physical and mental toughness.  Over the long haul, Wallace and Daniels more than make up for the loss of Posey, but I still feel that in the closing minutes of a close playoff game, Posey would have the stronger impact.

I think being able to close with a traditional big lineup is just as important. Sheed's a better player than Posey, though I'd prefer Posey to Daniels. I like the size and shooting at the 3 more than the ball handling. But time will tell.

[moiso]

The thing is that the whole "not paying Posey" thing only worked out "well" because KG got hurt.  If he hadn't gotten hurt and we had lost a close 7 game series to the Lakers, people wouldn't be feeling that losing Posey was no big deal.  While I agree that we certainly don't need him now, I wasn't happy how the C's management risked one of the few years that Big Three have.

Good post.  It's true.  The team is fine now, but if KG never got hurt, not having Posey could have cost us a championship.  He made a disproportionate number of clutch plays in the closing minutes of games.  He displayed incredible physical and mental toughness.  Over the long haul, Wallace and Daniels more than make up for the loss of Posey, but I still feel that in the closing minutes of a close playoff game, Posey would have the stronger impact.

I think being able to close with a traditional big lineup is just as important. Sheed's a better player than Posey, though I'd prefer Posey to Daniels. I like the size and shooting at the 3 more than the ball handling. But time will tell.

Yes, Rasheed is taller and guard 4's and 5's better.  But lets see how many steals, charges drawn, defelections, etc Rasheed gets compared to Posey.  I'm sure you will see it your way, but I doubt I will see it the same way.  Posey seemed ready to give his life for a win.  Sheed... never.

[Fafnir]

The thing is that the whole "not paying Posey" thing only worked out "well" because KG got hurt.  If he hadn't gotten hurt and we had lost a close 7 game series to the Lakers, people wouldn't be feeling that losing Posey was no big deal.  While I agree that we certainly don't need him now, I wasn't happy how the C's management risked one of the few years that Big Three have.

Good post.  It's true.  The team is fine now, but if KG never got hurt, not having Posey could have cost us a championship.  He made a disproportionate number of clutch plays in the closing minutes of games.  He displayed incredible physical and mental toughness.  Over the long haul, Wallace and Daniels more than make up for the loss of Posey, but I still feel that in the closing minutes of a close playoff game, Posey would have the stronger impact.

I think being able to close with a traditional big lineup is just as important. Sheed's a better player than Posey, though I'd prefer Posey to Daniels. I like the size and shooting at the 3 more than the ball handling. But time will tell.

Yes, Rasheed is taller and guard 4's and 5's better.  But lets see how many steals, charges drawn, defelections, etc Rasheed gets compared to Posey.  I'm sure you will see it your way, but I doubt I will see it the same way.  Posey seemed ready to give his life for a win.  Sheed... never.

Sheed's a better defender than Posey, last year and over the course of his career. They're very similar players on the offensive side of the ball, so its the defense that separates them.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=swEiX
http://www.82games.com/0809/08DET14.HTM#onoff
http://www.82games.com/0809/08NOH6.HTM#onoff

Also when we had Posey finishing games it meant he had to play the 4 and Garnett the 5. For match-up purposes Rasheed is a better fit to play with Garnett and the rest of the starters, he can guard Centers instead of Garnett.

Both are smart basketball players who do a lot of the little things that help their teams win, but Rasheed is just a better player.

[NextCeltic34]

Brian Scalabrine, Tony Allen, and Bill Walker for James Posey should be offered to NOH if things aren't working out. They need to save some money and our bench would be so deadly.

If we're going to have Sheed signed for 3 years, might as well take Posey as well.

House, Daniels, Posey, Baby, Sheed, Shelden off the bench? Wow.

[GreenFaith1819]

Yeah having Posey back would be awesome....he could be Pierces' designated bench relief (even though Marquis Daniels can fill that role, too).

Posey would further extend oposing teams defense (imagine Posey at PF, Sheed at Center, Pierce at SF, Ray Allen at SG and Eddie at the Point??) 5 Potential 3 point bombers, there.

Sheed could sneak in and post up if needed, as well as Posey and Pierce.

I doubt that it could happen, but you never know. Danny and Doc are looking like geniuses right now. If anyone could make that happen, it'd be Danny.

We'd have to give up some pieces, though....

[RAcker]

If ifs and buts...err...yeah, I remember that guy.

However, I wouldn't trade where we are today for anything.