Baby = Problem....

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I don't have a problem with anything he said other than when asked if he would have preferred going to another team he answered "Yup". That was the only thing that shouldn't have been said.  It shows that he isn't happy with how things are developing and he can see the writing on the wall. He is at a minimum 3rd in the depth chart and quite honestly if Williams plays like he did against the Cavs he will be fighting all year for that spot as well. Williams appears to be a more consistent shooter (maybe it is just his form looks better and the results aren't) and is definitely a better rebounder and is arguably as good a defender.

 If he thought he was going to get starter minutes on this squad then he is insane. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut when he gets some DNP's or the 2-3 garbage minute games. If he creates a stink they need to look for a trade quickly!

I think you are twisting his words a bit.  He said "yup" when they asked if he had hoped that he would get an offer from a team that could offer him a starting spot.  I think almost anyone in position would like the same thing.  He wants to play. 

seriously --- what free agent wouldn't want a team with an opening for a starter to make him an offer? would any one of us here like a company looking for someone with your respective background to make you an offer?

[Fafnir]

Glen Davis needs to leave the Celtics to forward his own career.

I'm more worried about the Celtics than his career.

Besides Glen had his shot, and showed he's a backup PF/C at the NBA level. Which is what he is on the Celtics.

[RAcker]

Wow.  Talk about jumping to conclusions.

I wonder if the OP was one that was never crazy about Baby in the first place.

Second.

[Birdbrain]

Yeah I doubt very seriously Williams will be playing over him.   

And for those that haven't really ever played an organized sport most players with skill like Davis aren't happy on the bench.  I'm just thankful we won't be discussing powe vs baby this season and having to read how Powe will be getting PT over him.  Maybe this year it will be Williams. 

Can't wait for the season to start.

a player with 'skills like baby' is a bench player on a championship caliber team. he does some things well, and some things very poorly. he is the definition of a role player. look up role player in the NBA dictionary and there should be a picture of baby next to the entry.

We disagree with his skill set and I'll stand by my post.

How's the Favre thing in Minny working out?

pretty sure i've never posted here about favre. though he and baby do have one thing in common -- cry cry cry booo hoooooo.

look i like baby. but if wants to play more on a bad team, i'd be happy to oblige if we get a value in return. i saw one poster suggest baby, TA and giddens for battier. don't think that's very realistic, but if we could get something in return of this level, great. if not, play your role, take your minutes, and improve on your deficiencies, glen. 

No I believe you did and like BBD you will be proven correct.  Well correct is sort of the opposite of the discussion concerning Farve but, you were close.

[EJPLAYA]

I don't have a problem with anything he said other than when asked if he would have preferred going to another team he answered "Yup". That was the only thing that shouldn't have been said.  It shows that he isn't happy with how things are developing and he can see the writing on the wall. He is at a minimum 3rd in the depth chart and quite honestly if Williams plays like he did against the Cavs he will be fighting all year for that spot as well. Williams appears to be a more consistent shooter (maybe it is just his form looks better and the results aren't) and is definitely a better rebounder and is arguably as good a defender.

 If he thought he was going to get starter minutes on this squad then he is insane. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut when he gets some DNP's or the 2-3 garbage minute games. If he creates a stink they need to look for a trade quickly!

I think you are twisting his words a bit.  He said "yup" when they asked if he had hoped that he would get an offer from a team that could offer him a starting spot.  I think almost anyone in position would like the same thing.  He wants to play. 

Not twisting his words at all. The appropriate response to that question now that he signed a contract with us and is a member of this team is that he is right where he wants to be. He wants to help this team compete for and win another championship. That "everyone" in the NBA wants to start, however he is most concerned with winning and that he feels we are a great deep squad.

BEFORE he signed a contract an appropriate response could have been that he loved his time in Boston and that he would love to be back and contribute, however he also likes the idea of being able to start and could also see the wisdom of joining a team where he could do that. That's EXACTLY how he played it in the offseason. I was impressed with how he handled it for the most part. Stating NOW that he would have liked to have signed with someone else to be able to start is NOT being a good team player. I don't think it is a huge deal like the OP was stating, however he should have given the party line.

[Bahku]

No offense, but if you weren't a Celtic fan, I'd just assume you were trying to rile other Celtic fans up.

Yeah, on the one hand it says BBD will have to adjust back to 15 minutes per game after playing 35+ min per game in the playoffs, but then the article says that he knows no one has to tell him how to do his role. And, what's with omitting the quote where BBD says he has a chance to be part of something great, and where he acknowledges he has to roll with it?

And BBD also says that his playoff experience will have a lasting effect as far as letting him know what he can do.

At absolute worst, he sounds like Rondo as far as having a tough time with their roles. Other than that, I feel like you've taken BBD's supposed reputation as a whiner to perceive this article as BBD possibly taking the high road on the team, even though he really didn't say anything that was shockingly unprofessional. I'm supposed to get riled up over the fact he said going back to a limited role after having a taste of what he could do as a starter would be tough? I'd be surprised if he wasn't.

Thanks for saving me a bunch of typing, Tai ... TP.

[Scalablob990]

Wow.  Talk about jumping to conclusions.

I wonder if the OP was one that was never crazy about Baby in the first place.

Wow couldn't tell with the last few sentences about keeping Powe.... I wonder if that's sarcasm Bank. I wouldn't talk about the BBD haters since I remember you smashing Powe a good deal a few months back. We shouldn't be ripping the OP's head off either.

[SalmonAndMashedPotatoes]

Of all the things a supposedly 'disgruntled' player could say, Baby's words are decidedly situated on the mild edge of the spectrum.  Baby's going to get 20 minutes a game when it's all said and done, he's going to have plenty of big games and big moments, and he's going to be an important part of this team.  I'm not worried AT ALL.

The reason people are questioning his commitment to the Cs after these comments is because people aren't used to honesty anymore.  Baby's was HONEST when asked whether he would have jumped at a chance to go to a team as a starter--and it's exactly that kind of attitude that's gotten Baby to where he's at and made him the player he's become.  Players want to play, and they want to play big minutes, and it's that desire which fuels all the work necessary to make the NBA, and all the work necessary to keep working once you make the NBA. 

Baby was being HONEST when he said it was hard going from starter's minutes back to reserve minutes--ask any starter on the Cs and they'd give you same answer.  Furthermore, Baby's desire to play more minutes will act as a force against veteran complacency, especially in practice where he'll continue to challenge KG and Perk and make them better, sharper players.

As for Shelden Williams 'challenging' Baby for minutes--that's hilarious!  Shelden will be lucky to be dressed on most nights.

[wdleehi]

Glen Davis needs to leave the Celtics to forward his own career.

I'm more worried about the Celtics than his career.

Besides Glen had his shot, and showed he's a backup PF/C at the NBA level. Which is what he is on the Celtics.

That was my thought to.

I really don't care about Davis' career, only the number of rings he gets to win while wearing the Celtics Green.

[Birdbrain]

Of all the things a supposedly 'disgruntled' player could say, Baby's words are decidedly situated on the mild edge of the spectrum.  Baby's going to get 20 minutes a game when it's all said and done, he's going to have plenty of big games and big moments, and he's going to be an important part of this team.  I'm not worried AT ALL.

The reason people are questioning his commitment to the Cs after these comments is because people aren't used to honesty anymore.  Baby's was HONEST when asked whether he would have jumped at a chance to go to a team as a starter--and it's exactly that kind of attitude that's gotten Baby to where he's at and made him the player he's become.  Players want to play, and they want to play big minutes, and it's that desire which fuels all the work necessary to make the NBA, and all the work necessary to keep working once you make the NBA. 

Baby was being HONEST when he said it was hard going from starter's minutes back to reserve minutes--ask any starter on the Cs and they'd give you same answer.  Furthermore, Baby's desire to play more minutes will act as a force against veteran complacency, especially in practice where he'll continue to challenge KG and Perk and make them better, sharper players.

As for Shelden Williams 'challenging' Baby for minutes--that's hilarious!  Shelden will be lucky to be dressed on most nights.

TP and and he's not the only player who is having everyone of his honest comments parsed on regular basis.  I'm hoping for a lot less speculation once the season begins.

[RAcker]

Wow.  Talk about jumping to conclusions.

I wonder if the OP was one that was never crazy about Baby in the first place.

Wow couldn't tell with the last few sentences about keeping Powe.... I wonder if that's sarcasm Bank. I wouldn't talk about the BBD haters since I remember you smashing Powe a good deal a few months back. We shouldn't be ripping the OP's head off either.

I don't know if Bankshot was ripping anybody's head off.  Like him, I feel like the words of BBD taken out of context don't really represent collectively what was said. The OP seemed to have an anti-Baby angle from the get go.

None of us claim to be in the OP's head.  They may just be worried about the Rondo news coming out and have started reading a lot into BBD's role in that.  It just seemed to assume a lot about where BBD's heart is.

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Yeah I doubt very seriously Williams will be playing over him.   

And for those that haven't really ever played an organized sport most players with skill like Davis aren't happy on the bench.  I'm just thankful we won't be discussing powe vs baby this season and having to read how Powe will be getting PT over him.  Maybe this year it will be Williams. 

Can't wait for the season to start.

a player with 'skills like baby' is a bench player on a championship caliber team. he does some things well, and some things very poorly. he is the definition of a role player. look up role player in the NBA dictionary and there should be a picture of baby next to the entry.

We disagree with his skill set and I'll stand by my post.

How's the Favre thing in Minny working out?

pretty sure i've never posted here about favre. though he and baby do have one thing in common -- cry cry cry booo hoooooo.

look i like baby. but if wants to play more on a bad team, i'd be happy to oblige if we get a value in return. i saw one poster suggest baby, TA and giddens for battier. don't think that's very realistic, but if we could get something in return of this level, great. if not, play your role, take your minutes, and improve on your deficiencies, glen. 

No I believe you did and like BBD you will be proven correct.  Well correct is sort of the opposite of the discussion concerning Farve but, you were close.

sorry dood got no idea what you talkin bout. but i like being proven right....

[Bankshot]

Wow.  Talk about jumping to conclusions.

I wonder if the OP was one that was never crazy about Baby in the first place.

Wow couldn't tell with the last few sentences about keeping Powe.... I wonder if that's sarcasm Bank. I wouldn't talk about the BBD haters since I remember you smashing Powe a good deal a few months back. We shouldn't be ripping the OP's head off either.

Except that I never "smashed" Powe.  I remember wondering what the big fuss was over Powe, but "smashing" him, um no.

[BballTim]

I don't have a problem with anything he said other than when asked if he would have preferred going to another team he answered "Yup". That was the only thing that shouldn't have been said.  It shows that he isn't happy with how things are developing and he can see the writing on the wall. He is at a minimum 3rd in the depth chart and quite honestly if Williams plays like he did against the Cavs he will be fighting all year for that spot as well. Williams appears to be a more consistent shooter (maybe it is just his form looks better and the results aren't) and is definitely a better rebounder and is arguably as good a defender.

 If he thought he was going to get starter minutes on this squad then he is insane. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut when he gets some DNP's or the 2-3 garbage minute games. If he creates a stink they need to look for a trade quickly!

I think you are twisting his words a bit.  He said "yup" when they asked if he had hoped that he would get an offer from a team that could offer him a starting spot.  I think almost anyone in position would like the same thing.  He wants to play. 

seriously --- what free agent wouldn't want a team with an opening for a starter to make him an offer? would any one of us here like a company looking for someone with your respective background to make you an offer?

  This was kind of discussed during BBD's free agency, but I'm not surprised if he's a little disappointed in the way things went. First of all, the economy really killed the market. Also, we kept hearing rumors this summer that teams that were looking at Davis didn't offer him a contract because the Celts would match up to some point. The contract they offered him after the market had pretty much settled was less than what it was rumored that they'd match. While it is a business it can still breed bad feelings.

  HAving said that, I think that Baby was expecting offers based more on his scoring than his overall game.

[Fafnir]

I don't have a problem with anything he said other than when asked if he would have preferred going to another team he answered "Yup". That was the only thing that shouldn't have been said.  It shows that he isn't happy with how things are developing and he can see the writing on the wall. He is at a minimum 3rd in the depth chart and quite honestly if Williams plays like he did against the Cavs he will be fighting all year for that spot as well. Williams appears to be a more consistent shooter (maybe it is just his form looks better and the results aren't) and is definitely a better rebounder and is arguably as good a defender.

 If he thought he was going to get starter minutes on this squad then he is insane. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut when he gets some DNP's or the 2-3 garbage minute games. If he creates a stink they need to look for a trade quickly!

I think you are twisting his words a bit.  He said "yup" when they asked if he had hoped that he would get an offer from a team that could offer him a starting spot.  I think almost anyone in position would like the same thing.  He wants to play. 

seriously --- what free agent wouldn't want a team with an opening for a starter to make him an offer? would any one of us here like a company looking for someone with your respective background to make you an offer?

  This was kind of discussed during BBD's free agency, but I'm not surprised if he's a little disappointed in the way things went. First of all, the economy really killed the market. Also, we kept hearing rumors this summer that teams that were looking at Davis didn't offer him a contract because the Celts would match up to some point. The contract they offered him after the market had pretty much settled was less than what it was rumored that they'd match. While it is a business it can still breed bad feelings.

  HAving said that, I think that Baby was expecting offers based more on his scoring than his overall game.

I don't blame him, NBA players are almost always paid according to how much they score.