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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2009, 08:43:17 AM »

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Baby was just fooling himself. He was money hungry after the season ended. It didn't look when your own team basically upgraded and got Sheed. Teams still has reservations about his game especially after getting abused by Rashard Lewis, and even Tyrus Thomas had his moments against Baby. For him to become the player he thinks he is Baby needs to rebound, defend, and finish at the rim better.

It could happen during the season. If KG looks good in February, Ainge could package Baby, Scal, and Tony for a stud. Maybe a true center or a great SF.
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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 09:22:13 AM »

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No offense, but if you weren't a Celtic fan, I'd just assume you were trying to rile other Celtic fans up.

Yeah, on the one hand it says BBD will have to adjust back to 15 minutes per game after playing 35+ min per game in the playoffs, but then the article says that he knows no one has to tell him how to do his role. And, what's with omitting the quote where BBD says he has a chance to be part of something great, and where he acknowledges he has to roll with it?

And BBD also says that his playoff experience will have a lasting effect as far as letting him know what he can do.

At absolute worst, he sounds like Rondo as far as having a tough time with their roles. Other than that, I feel like you've taken BBD's supposed reputation as a whiner to perceive this article as BBD possibly taking the high road on the team, even though he really didn't say anything that was shockingly unprofessional. I'm supposed to get riled up over the fact he said going back to a limited role after having a taste of what he could do as a starter would be tough? I'd be surprised if he wasn't.


No offense taken and my goal is/was not to "rile up" anyone, what would be the purpose. The words weren't my observation, they came directly from Glen's mouth. Despite your impression of why I posted, I too have noticed a 'sullen' baby during the preseason games when the rest of the team were laughing and joking baby would be sitting there with the grim look on his face. I couldn't understand why until reading this article. Even during the Real Training episodes, baby wasn't baby. I simply stated his quotes. You, Nick and whomever else think this was posted to start trouble...well that's just your opinion isn't it. Just like it's my opinion that he could be trouble this year. By the way, I could care less about your emotions or whether or not you get riled up so that's beside the point. I don't know you to care that much about how YOU feel.

Look at my prior posts. I am not a Debbie Downer as 'some' are here, never have been but the writings on the wall (or in the Herald)Glen is not happy. You're telling me that him wishing he would have signed with another team is positive? What am I missing?

To the other poster that questioned whether or not I am a Baby fan...I LOVED Baby last year. Again, beside the point. This quote here stands out to me: Asked if he had hoped for an offer from a team with a need for a starting power forward, Davis said, “Yup.” To ME this is not about him being a Celtic, this is about him being a STARTER! What do YOU get from this comment? The year we won it, it was ALL TEAM. Whatever your role was, it was. It was about one common goal. It's CLEAR that Glen's wishes were to go to a team where he could start, the Celtics weren't his first choice had he had one.

My motto is and will always be...Either you're with us or you're against us. Not saying he's not gonna play and do what he has to do, after all he has a CONTRACT to do that. But it's clear it's not in his heart. Disagree all you wish. Come back to this thread later on in the year when he starts to kick up dust.
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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 10:10:59 AM »

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I'm going to have to see a bit more evidence before I can take your extrapolation very seriously.

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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 10:12:19 AM »

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i believe Baby is now a BYC player, so he'll be tricky to trade.
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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2009, 10:21:25 AM »

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i believe Baby is now a BYC player, so he'll be tricky to trade.

He is I believe, but because his salary is so low, it really is not that hard to make it work if multiple players are involved.

But I don't think the C's have a ton of interest in trading him right now.  If the right deal comes along, I don't think he will be a sticking point, but I don't see them shopping him.

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2009, 10:24:35 AM »

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All this talk about being a TEAM player, when you can ask just about any of the starters if they would be happy coming off the bench and they'll say no. Most wouldn't accept that role if it came to that. Lucky for them, they're the best 5 players in the team so they don't have to deal with that, but you think that if for some reason someone better than them got into the team, and got the starting job over them that they would be happy with the result?

This is a completely normal feeling... they're making too much out of it.

Funny how this was edited out from the main post because it didn't suit his purposes:

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Angst aside, Davis knows this, too.

He’s part of a rotation that has a chance to be one of the greatest of all time, with one of the best second units of all time. The NBA is filled with exceptional players on bad teams who would love a reserve role on the Celtics [team stats].

“That’s great, to have the chance to be a part of something this great,” Davis said. “I’m here now - a part of it. So I have to roll with the shot I’ve got. I’m here until they don’t want me anymore.”

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2009, 10:55:51 AM »

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From what I've seen in pre-season so far, Davis has looked pretty good. He's lost some weight, scoring more down low, rebounding better. His defense has been pretty good and I've seen him block some shots. In short, I don't see him dogging it at all. If anything I think it looks like his game is getting better.
So he wants to play more and is disappointed that he's not going to. I don't think he'd be much of a pro if he didn't. Even if he is in fact mad about it, it hasn't seemed to effect his play.

I really don't see the issue here.

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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2009, 10:56:25 AM »

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I don't have a problem with anything he said other than when asked if he would have preferred going to another team he answered "Yup". That was the only thing that shouldn't have been said.  It shows that he isn't happy with how things are developing and he can see the writing on the wall. He is at a minimum 3rd in the depth chart and quite honestly if Williams plays like he did against the Cavs he will be fighting all year for that spot as well. Williams appears to be a more consistent shooter (maybe it is just his form looks better and the results aren't) and is definitely a better rebounder and is arguably as good a defender.

 If he thought he was going to get starter minutes on this squad then he is insane. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut when he gets some DNP's or the 2-3 garbage minute games. If he creates a stink they need to look for a trade quickly!

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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2009, 11:02:57 AM »

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Yeah I doubt very seriously Williams will be playing over him.   

And for those that haven't really ever played an organized sport most players with skill like Davis aren't happy on the bench.  I'm just thankful we won't be discussing powe vs baby this season and having to read how Powe will be getting PT over him.  Maybe this year it will be Williams. 

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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2009, 11:04:35 AM »

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I don't have a problem with anything he said other than when asked if he would have preferred going to another team he answered "Yup". That was the only thing that shouldn't have been said.  It shows that he isn't happy with how things are developing and he can see the writing on the wall. He is at a minimum 3rd in the depth chart and quite honestly if Williams plays like he did against the Cavs he will be fighting all year for that spot as well. Williams appears to be a more consistent shooter (maybe it is just his form looks better and the results aren't) and is definitely a better rebounder and is arguably as good a defender.

 If he thought he was going to get starter minutes on this squad then he is insane. I just hope he keeps his mouth shut when he gets some DNP's or the 2-3 garbage minute games. If he creates a stink they need to look for a trade quickly!

I think you are twisting his words a bit.  He said "yup" when they asked if he had hoped that he would get an offer from a team that could offer him a starting spot.  I think almost anyone in position would like the same thing.  He wants to play. 

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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2009, 11:06:15 AM »

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Yeah I doubt very seriously Williams will be playing over him.   

And for those that haven't really ever played an organized sport most players with skill like Davis aren't happy on the bench.  I'm just thankful we won't be discussing powe vs baby this season and having to read how Powe will be getting PT over him.  Maybe this year it will be Williams. 

Can't wait for the season to start.

a player with 'skills like baby' is a bench player on a championship caliber team. he does some things well, and some things very poorly. he is the definition of a role player. look up role player in the NBA dictionary and there should be a picture of baby next to the entry.
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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2009, 11:07:30 AM »

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Glen Davis needs to leave the Celtics to forward his own career.

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2009, 11:07:47 AM »

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I'm not really a baby fan and I think you blew his quotes out of proportion.  Although, I don't think we should at all be surprised by what he said.  He's always thought much higher of himself and his game than most around the league, and higher than statistics state.  If defenses weren't so focused on stopping Ray, Pierce, etc. then he wouldn't have been able to do as well as he did.  But nonetheless you can't blame the guy for wanting more minutes;  He just doesn't deserve them based upon who we have and what the goals of the TEAM are.

Having said that it shouldn't be an issue for the season.  There's no way the rest of the players on this team let someone like Baby ruin it for them, if he tried (which I doubt he really will).  Personally I think his production per contract could be appealing to other teams, and it'd benefit the Celtics down the road to trade him in a package (hopefully including TA) to fill a need that arises during the season.

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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2009, 11:09:03 AM »

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Yeah I doubt very seriously Williams will be playing over him.   

And for those that haven't really ever played an organized sport most players with skill like Davis aren't happy on the bench.  I'm just thankful we won't be discussing powe vs baby this season and having to read how Powe will be getting PT over him.  Maybe this year it will be Williams. 

Can't wait for the season to start.

a player with 'skills like baby' is a bench player on a championship caliber team. he does some things well, and some things very poorly. he is the definition of a role player. look up role player in the NBA dictionary and there should be a picture of baby next to the entry.

We disagree with his skill set and I'll stand by my post.

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2009, 11:17:58 AM »

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Yeah I doubt very seriously Williams will be playing over him.   

And for those that haven't really ever played an organized sport most players with skill like Davis aren't happy on the bench.  I'm just thankful we won't be discussing powe vs baby this season and having to read how Powe will be getting PT over him.  Maybe this year it will be Williams. 

Can't wait for the season to start.

a player with 'skills like baby' is a bench player on a championship caliber team. he does some things well, and some things very poorly. he is the definition of a role player. look up role player in the NBA dictionary and there should be a picture of baby next to the entry.

We disagree with his skill set and I'll stand by my post.

How's the Favre thing in Minny working out?

pretty sure i've never posted here about favre. though he and baby do have one thing in common -- cry cry cry booo hoooooo.

look i like baby. but if wants to play more on a bad team, i'd be happy to oblige if we get a value in return. i saw one poster suggest baby, TA and giddens for battier. don't think that's very realistic, but if we could get something in return of this level, great. if not, play your role, take your minutes, and improve on your deficiencies, glen. 
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