Rondo wants All-Star money

[JSD]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose.

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

[Fafnir]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation next summer? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

There is some incentive, but since he's a restricted FA the Celtics will still be in a position to match offers that come in at least.

Rondo isn't an all-star player when he doesn't bring his consistent A game. Hopefully this year he makes that jump, then the Celtics can confidently pay him accordingly.

[Cman]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

The Celtics are in a good position in that they can match whatever Rondo is offered on the open market next summer.  If the Cs can get a reasonable deal done now, great, otherwise, next summer is fine.

[JSD]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation next summer? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

There is some incentive, but since he's a restricted FA the Celtics will still be in a position to match offers that come in at least.

Rondo isn't an all-star player when he doesn't bring his consistent A game. Hopefully this year he makes that jump, then the Celtics can confidently pay him accordingly.

The only incentive I can think of for the C's to lock him up now, would be to give Rondo piece of mind. Will Rondo play tentatively this season trying to avoid an injury? That's my fear... Maybe I'm missing something? What other incentive do the C's have? Also, They are concerned that he won't be able to handle a 5 year deal guaranteed? How does that change next summer? Will going through these negations help mature him as a person? I suppose learning and growing is maturing but will the affect be that dramatic?

[Fafnir]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation next summer? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

There is some incentive, but since he's a restricted FA the Celtics will still be in a position to match offers that come in at least.

Rondo isn't an all-star player when he doesn't bring his consistent A game. Hopefully this year he makes that jump, then the Celtics can confidently pay him accordingly.

The only incentive I can think of for the C's to lock him up now, would be to give Rondo piece of mind. Will Rondo play tentatively this season trying to avoid an injury? That's my fear... Maybe I'm missing something? What other incentive do the C's have? Also, They are concerned that he won't be able to handle a 5 year deal guaranteed? How does that change next summer? Will going through these negations help mature him as a person? I suppose learning and growing is maturing but will the affect be that dramatic?

I don't think Rondo is the type to play tentatively. Nor do I think he'll hold back, he's going to want a season to prove he's worth big money.

[moiso]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation next summer? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

There is some incentive, but since he's a restricted FA the Celtics will still be in a position to match offers that come in at least.

Rondo isn't an all-star player when he doesn't bring his consistent A game. Hopefully this year he makes that jump, then the Celtics can confidently pay him accordingly.

The only incentive I can think of for the C's to lock him up now, would be to give Rondo piece of mind. Will Rondo play tentatively this season trying to avoid an injury? That's my fear... Maybe I'm missing something? What other incentive do the C's have? Also, They are concerned that he won't be able to handle a 5 year deal guaranteed? How does that change next summer? Will going through these negations help mature him as a person? I suppose learning and growing is maturing but will the affect be that dramatic?

I don't think Rondo is the type to play tentatively. Nor do I think he'll hold back, he's going to want a season to prove he's worth big money.

I agree.  And I am happy Rondo isn't pure scoring point prone to taking extra shots to increase his numbers at the expense of the team.  I think Rondo is going to play hard and play the right way.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm curious what "all star money" is.  Devin Harris is an all-star caliber player playing on a fairly reasonable contract (5 years, roughly $42.6 million).  Jose' Calderson signed for 6 years, $50 million, I believe.  Neither one of those deals, in my opinion, would be a bad option.

Of course, we shouldn't give Rondo a max contract starting at roughly $13 - $13.5 million per season.  However, something that begins in the $7m - $9m range sounds reasonable.

[Fafnir]

I'm curious what "all star money" is.  Devin Harris is an all-star caliber player playing on a fairly reasonable contract (5 years, roughly $42.6 million).  Jose' Calderson signed for 6 years, $50 million, I believe.  Neither one of those deals, in my opinion, would be a bad option.

Of course, we shouldn't give Rondo a max contract starting at roughly $13 - $13.5 million per season.  However, something that begins in the $7m - $9m range sounds reasonable.

Who knows how much he's actually asking for though at this point. Neither side has much to gain from making such details public.

I think Danny has already decided to see how Rondo improves this season and keep his options open with regards to Ray and Rondo.

[clover]

Too bad.

[Chris]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

It would take the C's overpaying him based on his production to sign him right now, so I think the C's are doing the right thing by waiting it out.  It will allow them to keep all of their options open, especially since it maintains Rondo's tradability instead of making him a poison-pill player.  And really, they still can easily resign him next year, and worst-case scenario would be that they end up paying a few million extra than what it would have taken to convince him to sign this year.

[CoachBo]

I'm curious what "all star money" is.  Devin Harris is an all-star caliber player playing on a fairly reasonable contract (5 years, roughly $42.6 million).  Jose' Calderson signed for 6 years, $50 million, I believe.  Neither one of those deals, in my opinion, would be a bad option.

Of course, we shouldn't give Rondo a max contract starting at roughly $13 - $13.5 million per season.  However, something that begins in the $7m - $9m range sounds reasonable.

I agree. I'd do a deal in that range right now.

What I wouldn't do is go eight digits without Rondo demonstrating that he will consistently shoot the basketball better from the perimeter, shoot the basketball better from the foul line, defend better and play with consistent effort every night.

[Bankshot]

Rondo should learn how to shoot free throws, then it'll be a no-brainer that he'll be worth all-star money.

[BballTim]

I'm curious what "all star money" is.  Devin Harris is an all-star caliber player playing on a fairly reasonable contract (5 years, roughly $42.6 million).  Jose' Calderson signed for 6 years, $50 million, I believe.  Neither one of those deals, in my opinion, would be a bad option.

Of course, we shouldn't give Rondo a max contract starting at roughly $13 - $13.5 million per season.  However, something that begins in the $7m - $9m range sounds reasonable.

  Rondo's at least on the level of those players even though he's years younger. If you were his agent you'd want more than they were getting.

[BballTim]

While there's still a chance that the two sides agree to an extension, a source close to the process told me it's unlikely. Rondo wants All-Star money and the Celtics aren't convinced he'll handle a five-year guaranteed deal well. It’s a classic maturity-vs.-talent battle that the Celtics may ultimately lose. - ESPN.com

It looking more and more like RR is going to test his worth as a restricted FA next summer. Should the Celtics look into locking him up and avoiding a Ben Gordon type situation? Is there incentive for the C's to lock him up now rather than waiting?

It would take the C's overpaying him based on his production to sign him right now, so I think the C's are doing the right thing by waiting it out.  It will allow them to keep all of their options open, especially since it maintains Rondo's tradability instead of making him a poison-pill player.  And really, they still can easily resign him next year, and worst-case scenario would be that they end up paying a few million extra than what it would have taken to convince him to sign this year.

  Overpaying based on current production is pretty much how the contracts for young players work. Look at the production for players like Devin Harris and Tony Parker before they signed their present deals. Rondo's numbers were probably better than either of those.

[clover]

Okay, I'm ready to be laughed off celticsblog.  But Rondo's not signing means that the C's are just a little more likely to give Hudson playing time when they can, and develop him all the more this year. 

No, he's not stepping in as next year's starter if Rondo's price gets too steep.  But they won't have any incentive to inflate either Rondo's stats or his head.  Playing Rondo a little less and Hudson a little more in this scenario.