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Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 05:04:41 PM »

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Jackson wants to play for a contender...he averages 20, 5, and 5...he's burned bridges with GS to the point that they aren't going to get anything of value back for him.

I say all that to say, why wouldn't Danny have at least called GS to see what they were looking for? After all, it's his job. We've seen Doc manage Starbury well last season, I am convinced that a mix of Doc and our star players could do wonders for Jackson.

And for final thoughts...isn't it crazy how even the media is pulling for the C's to trade for Nocioni, when we could trade the same contracts for a much better player in Jackson? Interesting things to ponder...

I don't think Danny's assumed lack of interest in Jackson has anything to do with his attitude.  It is because of his contract, which is a year longer, and about $15 million richer than Nocioni's.

Jackson is a much better player than Nocioni. He's a bit of a head case but a very good player. I'd love to see us in the finals against the Lakers and have Jackson and Artest going head to head. I'd love to pick up Jackson but it seems like it's just to much long term cash. But I'm sure Danny has his eye on the situation.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2009, 05:05:42 PM »

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I don't think Danny's assumed lack of interest in Jackson has anything to do with his attitude.  It is because of his contract, which is a year longer, and about $15 million richer than Nocioni's.

I think this will keep the whole league from taking him unless Golden State is willing to 'grease the skids' by adding one of their young guys or a future first. That aint gonna happen most likely.

I do agree that our team with Doc and the big three (4 now with Sheed?) would be capable of controlling him better than most. Probably Cleveland being the second best, let them have him. Why take on that kind of headache when you are supposed to be focused on winning a championship?
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Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2009, 05:17:33 PM »

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He is over payed for what he is on a good team.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2009, 05:17:36 PM »

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The Celtics need Jackson like a fish needs a bicycle.

For the 786th time, they need a backup pg, unless Hudson can do it. They don't need another wing player.

But Jackson is certainly better than Nocioni, I'll grant you that.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2009, 05:21:45 PM »

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Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2009, 05:34:43 PM »

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No Jackson!  If he is calling GS go after the big young kid they have...name?
Jackson was shipped out by Bird and hasn't done enough as far as I am concerned to make me think he's any better of a teammate.

I second that.

Jackson would be a big pain in our locker room. He will not be happy coming off the bench, he will not get enough shots, he will not be the focus of attention. Also way too much contract left for a guy his age and history. Just not worth the headaches on any level.

They can keep Corey Maggette and Monta Ellis too for all that....they are just as bad.

The young guys? Biedrins, Morrow, Curry, Wright and Randolph are probably untouchable unless bigger talent is involved like Rondo or Perk.

I bet they'll trade Wright for modest value within the next two years.  He doesn't fit their style of play.  His recent injury.  Etc.

Otherwise I mostly agree. 
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Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 05:40:33 PM »

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I disagree completely.

Wasn't it GS who shut down Jackson when he was saying he could play towards the end of last season with that minor wrist injury?

I don't see how Jackson being displeased with GS's actions (or lack there of) is considered crying?

The guy is 30 years old and is in the prime of his career. He simply wants to compete for a championship, which in my opinion, is much better than all the guys who just care about themselves and post solid numbers on ****ty teams year after year.

He watched Baron walk, Monta disrespect his contract, and his franchise drafted a guy which simply clutters up the backcourt.

He was on a 29-win-team last season and simply doesn't want to be watching the playoffs on TV in April.

Bring this man to Beantown.

This point would be 100% reasonable if not for the date that Stephen Jackson signed the dotted line:

November 18, 2008

Also, looking at his comments about the extension, he clearly only sees it from his perspective

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That's business. ... Who's going to turn down that money? I'm not stupid. I didn't go to college but I've got a lot of common sense. I'm not going to turn money down.

"I'm 31 years old and the contract will be up when I'm 35. So that was a good position for me. I've got to look out for myself before anyone else does. It was the right decision for me and my family. I'm appreciative of that, but at the same time I've got to look out for myself because nobody else is going to."

See the last line: I've got to look out for myself because nobody else is going to"

Wrong

Golden State is looking out for you 27 Million times.

The Warriors are a mess, that's no secret. However, he literally signed up for it.
"      “I can make a trade every day if I want to, but that's not going to help us. A trade that would get us better rarely comes along. They're very difficult to find. Good trades are very difficult in our league and don't happen very often.”
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Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2009, 05:44:36 PM »

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The Celtics need Jackson like a fish needs a bicycle.

For the 786th time, they need a backup pg, unless Hudson can do it. They don't need another wing player.

But Jackson is certainly better than Nocioni, I'll grant you that.


Well if the fish can run, I bet it could enter a triathalon.
Teammates claim Jackson is a great teammate.  Coaches struggle to tame him.  And Managment understand he's a headache. 
However,  TA and Scal would be addition by subtraction.  As long as Pierce doesn't have to face him alongside Lebron or Kobe, I say, let the fish ride the bike and I'll do the last leg of the Triathlon.
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Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2009, 05:49:27 PM »

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The Celtics need Jackson like a fish needs a bicycle.

For the 786th time, they need a backup pg, unless Hudson can do it. They don't need another wing player.

But Jackson is certainly better than Nocioni, I'll grant you that.


Well if the fish can run, I bet it could enter a triathalon.
Teammates claim Jackson is a great teammate.  Coaches struggle to tame him.  And Managment understand he's a headache. 
However,  TA and Scal would be addition by subtraction.  As long as Pierce doesn't have to face him alongside Lebron or Kobe, I say, let the fish ride the bike and I'll do the last leg of the Triathlon.

If the money's right I say go for it, but with all due respect, I am NOT scared of Stephen Jackson.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2009, 06:07:13 PM »

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i know that jackson has been a dirtbag off the court but on it.. i haveen't seen every game but he actually looks like a good leader to me ON the court. then there is the other thing.. DON NELSON IS A LOSER. sorry, but how many beefs can a guy get into. maybe,just maybe it's you, don. i'm biased. i've loathed the guy ever since his basketball camp where he ignores a hello from any kid after he brags about his accomplishments.
 dude benched patrick ewing. enough said for me.
 i can see how people don't want to risk jackson here but i tell you what,he goes to cleveland,san antonio,or l.a. they are the clear favorites.  the guy is megatalented. i would sign him. we can't lose this year. we lose and l.a,. wins you heard it here first. the lakers will be aknowledged as the greatest, most storied nba franchise. you won't hear that term connected to the c's. it will be the lakeshow.
  every year is important but wow ,this is huge.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2009, 06:08:23 PM »

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if i was jackson and i had a choice, i'd pick cleveland.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2009, 06:09:53 PM »

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This story frustrates me.

In three seasons with Golden State, Jackson has missed a combined 76 games. Last season he only played 59.

For someone who missed almost 30% of last season and is assigned the title of “Captain” his trade demands are insulting.

Prior to being traded to the Warriors, Jackson was cast as one of the league’s black sheep. Golden State gave him an opportunity to repair his image and re-establish himself as a player. They then signed him to a lucrative extension. Months later, he asks for a ticket out of town.

You know what Captain Jack, cry to someone else! Between him and Monta “the Scooter” Ellis, their contracts should both be ripped into shreds.

Stephen Jackson is or was the leader of that team. He complains that they’re not trying to compete anymore based on Baron Davis deciding on a whim that he’d like to give the Clippers a shot after GSW made a competitive offer.

Play a full season and be leader. Show a shred of accountability.


I disagree completely.

Wasn't it GS who shut down Jackson when he was saying he could play towards the end of last season with that minor wrist injury?

I don't see how Jackson being displeased with GS's actions (or lack there of) is considered crying?

The guy is 30 years old and is in the prime of his career. He simply wants to compete for a championship, which in my opinion, is much better than all the guys who just care about themselves and post solid numbers on ****ty teams year after year.

He watched Baron walk, Monta disrespect his contract, and his franchise drafted a guy which simply clutters up the backcourt.

He was on a 29-win-team last season and simply doesn't want to be watching the playoffs on TV in April.

Bring this man to Beantown.

Give this man a TP. Well said.


Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2009, 06:18:40 PM »

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I disagree completely.

Wasn't it GS who shut down Jackson when he was saying he could play towards the end of last season with that minor wrist injury?

I don't see how Jackson being displeased with GS's actions (or lack there of) is considered crying?

The guy is 30 years old and is in the prime of his career. He simply wants to compete for a championship, which in my opinion, is much better than all the guys who just care about themselves and post solid numbers on ****ty teams year after year.

He watched Baron walk, Monta disrespect his contract, and his franchise drafted a guy which simply clutters up the backcourt.

He was on a 29-win-team last season and simply doesn't want to be watching the playoffs on TV in April.

Bring this man to Beantown.

This point would be 100% reasonable if not for the date that Stephen Jackson signed the dotted line:

November 18, 2008

Also, looking at his comments about the extension, he clearly only sees it from his perspective

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That's business. ... Who's going to turn down that money? I'm not stupid. I didn't go to college but I've got a lot of common sense. I'm not going to turn money down.

"I'm 31 years old and the contract will be up when I'm 35. So that was a good position for me. I've got to look out for myself before anyone else does. It was the right decision for me and my family. I'm appreciative of that, but at the same time I've got to look out for myself because nobody else is going to."

See the last line: I've got to look out for myself because nobody else is going to"

Wrong

Golden State is looking out for you 27 Million times.

The Warriors are a mess, that's no secret. However, he literally signed up for it.
Great post.

It is pathetic when a player gets a generous contract from what is likely the only team willing to give him that contract, then they try to strong-arm their way out of town.

If he wanted to be guaranteed a winning season, he should have went on the cheap to a better franchise. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Marquis really wanted to win -- the evidence is him taking a smaller contract. Jackson is full of himself.

It isn't as if GS didn't try to sign players. They couldn't get the players they wanted the previous offseason.

Re: Do you think Danny has at least called GS?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2009, 07:04:48 PM »

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It is pathetic when a player gets a generous contract from what is likely the only team willing to give him that contract, then they try to strong-arm their way out of town.

If he wanted to be guaranteed a winning season, he should have went on the cheap to a better franchise. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Marquis really wanted to win -- the evidence is him taking a smaller contract. Jackson is full of himself.

It isn't as if GS didn't try to sign players. They couldn't get the players they wanted the previous offseason.

This is clearly a 'Buyer Beware' situation. High risk and High reward guy that they took a chance on when they extended him. No question about his talent and the value is there if he plays. If his head is in the wrong place then the whole team suffers........as it is now.

Golden State will continue to have a difficult time getting quality players until they do a big makeover. Tough assignment with all of the strangeness because no one wants the headcases. they appear to have three with Maggette, Jackson and now Ellis. The only choice the Warriors have now is to build through the draft and hope someone will take some of their problem children in trades. Getting equal value will be near impossible.
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