Karma

[the_Bird]

I know it's probably impossible, but if I had any Tommy Point-related wish, I wish I could give TPs to people commenting on front page articles, not just in the forums.  Plenty of times that someone like Master Po is deserving of some love. 

Master Po has a forum account too.....

But yes I would like if it were extended to the main SBN system. But sadly those are very seperate systems.

I know, and I *have* on occassion sought someone out on the forums to give a TP for something on the front page - but that's obviously not happening all the time.  Just on the wish list for whatever the next permutation of CelticsBlog looks like, if those databases could somehow be integrated. 

[FanInTheSouth]

I know that you can adjust the number of karma actions allowed per hour

where can u adjust this? 

Somewhere in the guts of the forums system admins can modify the values. Just like they can allow negative "karma" actions.

I'm a big fan of negative karma actions.  I'd say for every 3 TPs I give I read a post that makes me want to take one away from someone. 

I also wished there was some way of knowing which post received the TP, so you would know if you got it for being funny or for being insightful. 

[indeedproceed]

I know that you can adjust the number of karma actions allowed per hour

where can u adjust this? 

Somewhere in the guts of the forums system admins can modify the values. Just like they can allow negative "karma" actions.

I'm a big fan of negative karma actions.  I'd say for every 3 TPs I give I read a post that makes me want to take one away from someone. 

I also wished there was some way of knowing which post received the TP, so you would know if you got it for being funny or for being insightful. 

I like the idea of it, but honestly people get way too bent out of shape when they get a neg TP. There will be whole threads that go to dark lonely places of one person just flipping out

"Why did I get a negative Tommy Point?"
"Wait! i got another negative! I only asked why I got a negative Tommy Point!"
"You know what, I don't need your stupid Tommy points, I don't need you either!"


"Please...just pick up. I know you're there, I can see you in the window with that tool Frank. Just pick up..I need to hear your voice..and tell me why you gave me a negative Tommy Point..."

Gets pretty weird.

[PRIDE]

Isn't it great to be a Celtics fan? No other team gets to have Tommy Point discussions.

[dark_lord]

Isn't it great to be a Celtics fan? No other team get to have Tommy Point discussions.

so true 

[Roy Hobbs]

Several things:

1) I'm very impressed with everyone's karmal knowledge on here;

2) Negative TPs are gone for good;

3) We don't have the option of allowing TPs to be given on the front page or in chat, although I agree it's a good idea;

4) Admins have the option of adjusting the number of "karma actions" per hour;

5) The staff isn't inclined to change the current standard.  There are several reasons, among them: 

a) currently, everyone's TPs are "worth" the same thing, meaning they got them under the same rules.  Changing the rules means that the contributions of members who earned their TPs under the earlier system would be devalued;

b) With all the various dramas we've had with TPs in the past, I see no reason to add to that by adding different levels of TPs.  If posters could give 3 TPs, they would.  Some posters would potentially give their friends 3 TPs for a good post, but other members only 1 TP, leading people to ask why their post wasn't worth as much.

c) The current system works relatively fine.  If people want to give TPs for multiple posts made within an hour of one another, they can make it up to them in an hour or two.

[ChampKind]

Three things:

1) I'm very impressed with everyone's karmal knowledge on here;

2) Negative TPs are gone for good;

3) We don't have the option of allowing TPs to be given on the front page or in chat, although I agree it's a good idea;

4) Admins have the option of adjusting the number of "karma actions" per hour;

5) The staff isn't inclined to change the current standard.  There are several reasons, among them: 

a) currently, everyone's TPs are "worth" the same thing, meaning they got them under the same rules.  Changing the rules means that the contributions of members who earned their TPs under the earlier system would be devalued;

b) With all the various dramas we've had with TPs in the past, I see no reason to add to that by adding different levels of TPs.  If posters could give 3 TPs, they would.  Some posters would potentially give their friends 3 TPs for a good post, but other members only 1 TP, leading people to ask why their post wasn't worth as much.

c) The current system works relatively fine.  If people want to give TPs for multiple posts made within an hour of one another, they can make it up to them in an hour or two.

Counting never was your strong suit, Roy.

[Chris]

I would argue that this focus on Karma points actually hurts the level of discussion on a message board.  It leads to some posters caring more about impressing people, and therefore getting TP's than just speaking their mind, and having a genuine discussion.  But that is just my two cents.

[Roy Hobbs]

Three things:

1) I'm very impressed with everyone's karmal knowledge on here;

2) Negative TPs are gone for good;

3) We don't have the option of allowing TPs to be given on the front page or in chat, although I agree it's a good idea;

4) Admins have the option of adjusting the number of "karma actions" per hour;

5) The staff isn't inclined to change the current standard.  There are several reasons, among them: 

a) currently, everyone's TPs are "worth" the same thing, meaning they got them under the same rules.  Changing the rules means that the contributions of members who earned their TPs under the earlier system would be devalued;

b) With all the various dramas we've had with TPs in the past, I see no reason to add to that by adding different levels of TPs.  If posters could give 3 TPs, they would.  Some posters would potentially give their friends 3 TPs for a good post, but other members only 1 TP, leading people to ask why their post wasn't worth as much.

c) The current system works relatively fine.  If people want to give TPs for multiple posts made within an hour of one another, they can make it up to them in an hour or two.

Counting never was your strong suit, Roy.

Haha.  I came up with two other things I wanted to say (plus three sub-parts.)

[dark_lord]

roy pretty much summed it up, guess this can be locked.  it was just an idea to possibly make this place better. no worries

[Master Po]

thanks for the Karma love dark lord.....(wow that sounds icky)

[dark_lord]

thanks for the Karma love dark lord.....(wow that sounds icky)

Po, dont forget this is a family friendly blog 

[Bahku]

Three things:

1) I'm very impressed with everyone's karmal knowledge on here;

2) Negative TPs are gone for good;

3) We don't have the option of allowing TPs to be given on the front page or in chat, although I agree it's a good idea;

4) Admins have the option of adjusting the number of "karma actions" per hour;

5) The staff isn't inclined to change the current standard.  There are several reasons, among them: 

a) currently, everyone's TPs are "worth" the same thing, meaning they got them under the same rules.  Changing the rules means that the contributions of members who earned their TPs under the earlier system would be devalued;

b) With all the various dramas we've had with TPs in the past, I see no reason to add to that by adding different levels of TPs.  If posters could give 3 TPs, they would.  Some posters would potentially give their friends 3 TPs for a good post, but other members only 1 TP, leading people to ask why their post wasn't worth as much.

c) The current system works relatively fine.  If people want to give TPs for multiple posts made within an hour of one another, they can make it up to them in an hour or two.

Counting never was your strong suit, Roy.

Haha.  I came up with two other things I wanted to say (plus three sub-parts.)

That's a "law" thing, isn't it? It was always thus in my family ... saying "some"-thing was always an unknown quantity of things, and very rarely limited to "one".

[Roy Hobbs]

Three things:

1) I'm very impressed with everyone's karmal knowledge on here;

2) Negative TPs are gone for good;

3) We don't have the option of allowing TPs to be given on the front page or in chat, although I agree it's a good idea;

4) Admins have the option of adjusting the number of "karma actions" per hour;

5) The staff isn't inclined to change the current standard.  There are several reasons, among them: 

a) currently, everyone's TPs are "worth" the same thing, meaning they got them under the same rules.  Changing the rules means that the contributions of members who earned their TPs under the earlier system would be devalued;

b) With all the various dramas we've had with TPs in the past, I see no reason to add to that by adding different levels of TPs.  If posters could give 3 TPs, they would.  Some posters would potentially give their friends 3 TPs for a good post, but other members only 1 TP, leading people to ask why their post wasn't worth as much.

c) The current system works relatively fine.  If people want to give TPs for multiple posts made within an hour of one another, they can make it up to them in an hour or two.

Counting never was your strong suit, Roy.

Haha.  I came up with two other things I wanted to say (plus three sub-parts.)

That's a "law" thing, isn't it? It was always thus in my family ... saying "some"-thing was always an unknown quantity of things, and very rarely limited to "one".

Indeed that's true.  Thus, whenever there's a court rule limiting the number of questions, it almost always says "including subparts".  We're a pretty transparent bunch.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The only problem I have with the TP system, are all the posts that involve quoting a post and then mentioning that you're going to TP it. Then the person comes right back "Hey TP right back at you" then some other guy comes and says "Hey, I want to get into the TP bandwagon, I'll TP you also"... then when it's all said and done, you have like 5 posts in a row with simply saying "Here's a TP" types of posts. I don't know, it feels distracting and it kinda derails some of the discussions.

I'm guilty of it myself sometimes, but it simply seems inappropite to me. I like the idea of some anonymity for these types of things, but since the system doesn't allow to figure out what posts you're getting TP'ed for, then I guess it's somewhat understandable. But in the end, you see the same circle of people thread after thread just quoting each other just to TP each other. It annoys the heck out of me some times.