Marquis Daniels Is Not All That

[Roy Hobbs]

Our backup point guard is Eddie House.

Our backup 2/3 is Marquis Daniels, who also handles the ball when he's in the game with Eddie.

Barring injury, I don't think we're weak at those positions at all.  How many teams in the league have better players at those two positions?

[2short]

I think compared to giddens, tony allen and billy walker Marquis Daniels is a big big step up.  Yes the airball was painfull!  He however has a handle and is athletic.  Giddens is better than gerald green brain wise but not much better
I think as a sub for 3 posistions Daniels is a nice pickup and I wish we could have worked the trade so we'd have him signed up for more than just one year.
ps-i like bill walker by the way

[MBz]

Our backup point guard is Eddie House.

Our backup 2/3 is Marquis Daniels, who also handles the ball when he's in the game with Eddie.

Barring injury, I don't think we're weak at those positions at all.  How many teams in the league have better players at those two positions?

I agree, also, both have been contributors on playoff teams.  House here in 07 and 08 and Daniels when he played for Dallas.  So let's give these guys a chance, if it doesn't work in the regular season, we have some small expiring contracts we can use where we can attempt to go after a back up point.

[moiso]

I thought he played very well other than his outside shooting.  He was very accurate closer to the rim.  And I kind of like him at the point.  He can handle the duties and covers up his lack of shooting ability a little more from that position.

[BrickJames]

I don't like Marquis at the point either.  Yes, he's a bargain, but he's a wing player.

For the 257th time, they need another point guard.

Hudson looked pretty legit last night, no?  Color me impressed.  Scrappy active defender, NBA swagger.

Not the best shooter, or facilitator, but can handle the ball just fine.  Oh yeah, he's about 30...but so what?

We did alright with Cassell and Marbury did we not?

[wil]

A disadvantaged point guard? I noticed that Rajon rentered the game shortly after he exited. Aaron Brooks had stayed in and I am presuming Doc did not like that matchup of Brooks on Marquis, or maybe the other way, i.e. Eddie House on Brooks.This is an example of disadvantaged. He is not fast enough to cover the real speedy point guards and neither is Eddie House.

 Next, while he might be all right getting into seams of the defense from a half copurt set, he is at a disadvantage from the back baseline to midcourt in 8 SECONDS THEY HAVE NOW INSTEAD OF TEN, and then even if he succeeds against pressure, even semi- pressure is enought to slow our offense up a few beats.

Lastly he is a 16% lifetime 3 pt. shppter. His mid-range game is on a level of Tony Alen.... ehhhh. There will be many a loud clangs and airballs like last night. The defense will lay off of him and double team. On the swing of the ball asterwards, pass, pass, pass, he will be naked out there for a jumper and he is not bashful. I am not looking forward to those moments and truthfully have more faith in Rondo to bang down the shot.

I can continue .... to write about the gaping hole then created at backing up Paul Pierce. A true pg and tough small forward like Moon would have been my choices.

So you're upset b/c doc had to bring in our starting point guard b/c the other teams starting point guard was still out there in a preseason game?  And you're upset b/c our backup counldn't stay with the starting poing guard who happens to be one of the quickest points in the league (notice him blowing by rondo on a few occasions).

I don't think you have to worry about this during the regular season.  Quisy is going to be playing against back up points most of the time, and they are NOT as good or as quick as Brooks. 

As for his outside shooting, it doesn't matter.  If you thought MD was brought in here to bomb from the outside, you are mistaken.  He is a slasher/driver, and when we needed a basket, that's what he did.  He actually did that really well too.  That is going to be our second unit offense.  Daniels down low or him kicking out to an open Eddie House.  As long as Daniels doesn't start settling for the outside jumper, i have no problem with his poor outside shooting.  Would I prefer him to be a deadeye from long range, sure...but that's not what he is, and that's not why we got him. 

A Daniels and House backcourt will be fine.  you can judge very little in one preseason game. 

[EDWARDO]

I hope you waited to post this in the 2nd quarter of the first pre-season game, because posting in the FIRST quarter of the FIRST pre-season game MIGHT have been a bit pre-mature.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Kendrick Perkins is a horrible 3-point shooter and is a bad free-throw shooter. Get him off my team!! And a bad dribbler to boot.

[Eeyore III]

The only things I agree on with the OP are:

1] Daniels cannot shoot
B] Daniels is injury prone.

The second point is really important, especially since Giddens doesn't look NBA ready yet. If Quis goes down, we will automatically lose our primary backup for the 2 and 3 positions.

This made me realize that the C's are still pretty thin at the wing position.

Yeah the one thing i would be "worried" about might be his health and not getting injured. I'm not familiar with the type of injuries he has had in the past but hopefully this year being a contract year for him on a championship caliber team will keep him on the court more than he has been in the past.

The phenomenon you describe is known as "the Bill Walton effect."   

[Evantime34]

I didn't watch the game but it seems to me that he is the perfect compliment to Eddie in the back court. He is big enough to guard 2s and 3s but can run the point, he can get by his man which will free up shots for Eddie and he is supposed to have excellent court vision.
I don't feel that whoever plays next to Eddie needs to shoot the ball, Eddie is best when playing with a good distributor.

[rondohondo]

I don't see why Daniels not being a good 3pt shooter is that much of a concern. He will be playing with the second unit most of the time which means he will have one of the best 3 pt shooters in the league(Eddie House), and one of the best 3pt shooting big man in the league ( Rasheed Wallace) out there with him. Also, more than likely Ray or PP will be in with the second unit from time to time which means you have plenty of outside shooting in the game. With all those outside shooters in the game, Daniels will have all kinds of lanes to drive to the basket and finish or dish it out to one of their sharp shooters!

[BrickJames]

I don't see why Daniels not being a good 3pt shooter is that much of a concern. He will be playing with the second unit most of the time which means he will have one of the best 3 pt shooters in the league(Eddie House), and one of the best 3pt shooting big man in the league ( Rasheed Wallace) out there with him. Also, more than likely Ray or PP will be in with the second unit from time to time which means you have plenty of outside shooting in the game. With all those outside shooters in the game, Daniels will have all kinds of lanes to drive to the basket and finish or dish it out to one of their sharp shooters!

True.  Even Scal might be out there with him, who shot a very respectable 39% last season.

MD is not here to shoot 3s.  He's here to slash and score first, and defend second.

No he's not "ALL that" (ie he will never be an all-star) but he's exactly what we needed off the bench.

[pumpfake]

unfortunately, a lot of back up pgs in this league are excellent on the drive, some even better than the starters who may be better facilitators. so marquis and eddie or maybe lester, would have to deal with that.

we'll have to hope the help d continues to make getting to the hole difficult.

if ta or bill walker can't step up though, we are definitely still thin at the wing. 

[guava_wrench]

A disadvantaged point guard? I noticed that Rajon rentered the game shortly after he exited. Aaron Brooks had stayed in and I am presuming Doc did not like that matchup of Brooks on Marquis, or maybe the other way, i.e. Eddie House on Brooks.This is an example of disadvantaged. He is not fast enough to cover the real speedy point guards and neither is Eddie House.

 Next, while he might be all right getting into seams of the defense from a half copurt set, he is at a disadvantage from the back baseline to midcourt in 8 SECONDS THEY HAVE NOW INSTEAD OF TEN, and then even if he succeeds against pressure, even semi- pressure is enought to slow our offense up a few beats.

Lastly he is a 16% lifetime 3 pt. shppter. His mid-range game is on a level of Tony Alen.... ehhhh. There will be many a loud clangs and airballs like last night. The defense will lay off of him and double team. On the swing of the ball asterwards, pass, pass, pass, he will be naked out there for a jumper and he is not bashful. I am not looking forward to those moments and truthfully have more faith in Rondo to bang down the shot.

I can continue .... to write about the gaping hole then created at backing up Paul Pierce. A true pg and tough small forward like Moon would have been my choices.

No team can defend every individual player in the league. There will always be a player who a team doesn't match up well with. It is unreasonable to expect any team to always shut down every player on the opposing team. Especially with the skill level in the NBA and the variety of shapes and sizes.

[Prof. Clutch]

This reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXStPqhLmIk