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Marquis Daniels Is Not All That
« on: October 08, 2009, 01:58:56 AM »

Offline gustusias

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I still don't like Marquis at the point. He also is not a fair shooter from outside, he downright stinks, like disgustingly so. His career shows he is injury prone. Why he is praised so much for defense also bewilders me. I hate to be the foreteller of doom, but the Celtics signed a good player who can't shoot well, more than likely will get hurt during the year, and is really a disadvantaged pg and a fair sub for Pierce. They can yak, yak all they want. I will not be bought.

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 02:08:26 AM »

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I still don't like Marquis at the point. He also is not a fair shooter from outside, he downright stinks, like disgustingly so. His career shows he is injury prone. Why he is praised so much for defense also bewilders me. I hate to be the foreteller of doom, but the Celtics signed a good player who can't shoot well, more than likely will get hurt during the year, and is really a disadvantaged pg and a fair sub for Pierce. They can yak, yak all they want. I will not be bought.

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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2009, 02:27:18 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2009, 02:38:02 AM »

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Is that a confused smiley? Cause that's what I need to put down.. here we go:   ::)

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2009, 02:40:00 AM »

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The only things I agree on with the OP are:

1] Daniels cannot shoot
B] Daniels is injury prone.

The second point is really important, especially since Giddens doesn't look NBA ready yet. If Quis goes down, we will automatically lose our primary backup for the 2 and 3 positions.

This made me realize that the C's are still pretty thin at the wing position.

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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2009, 03:19:35 AM »

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Is that a confused smiley? Cause that's what I need to put down.. here we go:   ::)

Eh, close enough. It's more of a "oh brother, not another of these Debbie Downers who has no faith in Daniels" face. I dare claim that's who is in Racker's pic.

But, yeah, I suppose you could say I'm also a wee bit confused on terms like "disadvantaged PG". If it's cause Daniels can't shoot, well, Rondo has yet to prove he's a much better shooter than Daniels. Most people on this blog seem to think Daniels handled the backup PG duties well in the preseason game. Yeah, you could say I'm confused, but I know a doubter like this isn't the first, and won't be the last.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2009, 03:38:39 AM »

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The only things I agree on with the OP are:

1] Daniels cannot shoot
B] Daniels is injury prone.

The second point is really important, especially since Giddens doesn't look NBA ready yet. If Quis goes down, we will automatically lose our primary backup for the 2 and 3 positions.

This made me realize that the C's are still pretty thin at the wing position.

Yeah the one thing i would be "worried" about might be his health and not getting injured. I'm not familiar with the type of injuries he has had in the past but hopefully this year being a contract year for him on a championship caliber team will keep him on the court more than he has been in the past.

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I still don't like Marquis at the point. He also is not a fair shooter from outside, he downright stinks, like disgustingly so. His career shows he is injury prone. Why he is praised so much for defense also bewilders me. I hate to be the foreteller of doom, but the Celtics signed a good player who can't shoot well, more than likely will get hurt during the year, and is really a disadvantaged pg and a fair sub for Pierce. They can yak, yak all they want. I will not be bought.

Gabe!? Is that you???

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 05:35:39 AM »

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A disadvantaged point guard? I noticed that Rajon rentered the game shortly after he exited. Aaron Brooks had stayed in and I am presuming Doc did not like that matchup of Brooks on Marquis, or maybe the other way, i.e. Eddie House on Brooks.This is an example of disadvantaged. He is not fast enough to cover the real speedy point guards and neither is Eddie House.

 Next, while he might be all right getting into seams of the defense from a half copurt set, he is at a disadvantage from the back baseline to midcourt in 8 SECONDS THEY HAVE NOW INSTEAD OF TEN, and then even if he succeeds against pressure, even semi- pressure is enought to slow our offense up a few beats.

Lastly he is a 16% lifetime 3 pt. shppter. His mid-range game is on a level of Tony Alen.... ehhhh. There will be many a loud clangs and airballs like last night. The defense will lay off of him and double team. On the swing of the ball asterwards, pass, pass, pass, he will be naked out there for a jumper and he is not bashful. I am not looking forward to those moments and truthfully have more faith in Rondo to bang down the shot.

I can continue .... to write about the gaping hole then created at backing up Paul Pierce. A true pg and tough small forward like Moon would have been my choices.

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2009, 07:01:18 AM »

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Wow little pessimistic after one preseason game aren't we.  I don't even think it's warranted.

He can't shoot very well we already knew this.  I thought he did have a decent job handling the ball, he had 5 assists for crying out loud (led team in assists).  He drove the lane made some nice shots in the paint.  He kicked it out when needed.  He just doesn't have a consistent shot.  But he brings what I thought he would.  Maybe your expectations were very high for him, but I think you're be too harsh after 1 game.

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 07:27:14 AM »

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Daniels isn't perfect, but he's an absolute bargain at his salary.  I see nothing to be unhappy about.

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 07:53:31 AM »

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I noticed that Rajon rentered the game shortly after he exited. Aaron Brooks had stayed in and I am presuming Doc did not like that matchup of Brooks on Marquis, or maybe the other way, i.e. Eddie House on Brooks.
Just to clarify, Daniels won't play PG defensively. Rondo re-entered the game so that all starters end up playing ~8 minutes in the first quarter.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 08:00:07 AM »

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God pity us if Rondo gets hurt, and let us not forget that we still have no substitute for Pierce. (Scal is iffy sice he suffers concussions and cannot guard quicker 3s.) Yes I am pessimistic about Daniels. He has never played a full season in his life. He IS NOT a point guard. He plays like a point guard and to boot, he is one of the worst outside shooters in the league. Do I have to write that again? Wait till the playoffs and teams begin to tighten up the pressure on him FULL COURT and to double team off of his man in the half court. Kobe Bryant will pick him up full court and eat him alive with pressure. So won't Derek Fisher even at his age. Mo Williams, or Orlando's pg,  Jammeer Nelson. In the half court he will be standing there with the ball wide open on the wing and all of us will be praying don't shoot don't shoot. Rondo loooks like Larry Bird next to Daniels. Yes, let us all wait till the playoffs when the real basketball begins to be played, if he is healthy enough  by then.

All Ainge had to do was the most simple thing of all. Sign a decent backup point and small forward. Moon and Barnes were available at sf. There were a slew of points available and he went after no one. I hope I am wrong but I still feel we have a hole at backup point, small forward, and shooting guard, even though one person, the imcomparahble master of all trades, Marquis Daniels, is supposed to have filled all 3 of those holes at once. The chances are very strong that he probably will be injured and out of the lineup by the time playoffs roll around, yet what difference does that make! I suppose from his bed,, Danny and Doc think, he'll fill all 3 of those positions, even at the same moment.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2009, 08:08:08 AM »

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I don't like Marquis at the point either.  Yes, he's a bargain, but he's a wing player.

For the 257th time, they need another point guard.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 08:08:55 AM »

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Lets reserve judgement a little bit longer on Marquis. 
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