If Dwest is released by the Cavs, do we go try and sign him?

[Fafnir]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

[Roy Hobbs]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

This.  Plus, Starbury has repeatedly been a disruption with his teammates.  Also, as far as not being a "criminal", he's got a conviction for DUI under his belt, which is more than can be said for Delonte.

[guava_wrench]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

He would be worth the gamble if it was clear that he still has game. That isn't at all clear.

[butterbeanlove]

A lot of times mental issues get worse over time.  I hope Delonte doesn't follow that trend like Marbury/Vin Baker, etc.

I've gotta throw my lot in with the "pass" crowd here. I liked Delonte's game (as a third guard) but I've seen enough borderline cases cripple our franchise with Bias, Reggie Lewis and Vin Baker to not take another flier on a question mark. Reward is moderate. Risk is big-time.

And I hope he gets some qualified help.

[xmuscularghandix]

A lot of times mental issues get worse over time.  I hope Delonte doesn't follow that trend like Marbury/Vin Baker, etc.

I've gotta throw my lot in with the "pass" crowd here. I liked Delonte's game (as a third guard) but I've seen enough borderline cases cripple our franchise with Bias, Reggie Lewis and Vin Baker to not take another flier on a question mark. Reward is moderate. Risk is big-time.

And I hope he gets some qualified help.

Reggie died of a heart condition and died becuase he refused to listen to his doctors, Bias died of an overdoes becuase cocaine is bad, Baker was an alcoholic but i think his weight was the bigger issue, and Delonte is bi-polar.

1/4 of those is risky and thats Delonte... but i still take him becuase he's not a star on THIS team and he'd be coming on cheap money.

[Roy Hobbs]

A lot of times mental issues get worse over time.  I hope Delonte doesn't follow that trend like Marbury/Vin Baker, etc.

I've gotta throw my lot in with the "pass" crowd here. I liked Delonte's game (as a third guard) but I've seen enough borderline cases cripple our franchise with Bias, Reggie Lewis and Vin Baker to not take another flier on a question mark. Reward is moderate. Risk is big-time.

And I hope he gets some qualified help.

Reggie died of a heart condition and died becuase he refused to listen to his doctors, Bias died of an overdoes becuase cocaine is bad, Baker was an alcoholic but i think his weight was the bigger issue, and Delonte is bi-polar.

1/4 of those is risky and thats Delonte... but i still take him becuase he's not a star on THIS team and he'd be coming on cheap money.

I may be misinterpreting you, but I think adding an alcoholic or somebody with a cocaine problem to a team would be a risk, too.  I don't really buy the Len Bias urban legend that the first time he ever tried coke was the night he OD'd; there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

The problem is, it's hard to identify the hardcore users from afar.  However, if any team knew that a player was having serious substance abuse issues, I'm sure they'd shy away.

[indeedproceed]

A lot of times mental issues get worse over time.  I hope Delonte doesn't follow that trend like Marbury/Vin Baker, etc.

I've gotta throw my lot in with the "pass" crowd here. I liked Delonte's game (as a third guard) but I've seen enough borderline cases cripple our franchise with Bias, Reggie Lewis and Vin Baker to not take another flier on a question mark. Reward is moderate. Risk is big-time.

And I hope he gets some qualified help.

Reggie died of a heart condition and died becuase he refused to listen to his doctors, Bias died of an overdoes becuase cocaine is bad, Baker was an alcoholic but i think his weight was the bigger issue, and Delonte is bi-polar.

1/4 of those is risky and thats Delonte... but i still take him becuase he's not a star on THIS team and he'd be coming on cheap money.

Overdosing on cocaine means he did cocaine, if that's not a 'risk' factor, what is? And how do you think Vin Baker stopped maintaining his playing weight? Cheeseburgers? Alcoholism is a very real and very terrible disease, and I'd say that's a definite 'risk'.

[jambr380]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

This.  Plus, Starbury has repeatedly been a disruption with his teammates.  Also, as far as not being a "criminal", he's got a conviction for DUI under his belt, which is more than can be said for Delonte.

While I definitely like Delonte's game more than Marbury's, if we are talking criminal acts, Delonte's is WAYYYYY worse. DUIs are a dime a dozen nowadays. I am in no way condoning it, but seriously, three guns, with a shotgun in a guitar case? Even James Bond would have to back off from that.

I also don't think Marbury was all that much of a disruption this past year with the Celtics. I know he has a history of this, but he didn't show it here. He may be a little 'off the wall', but as of right now, Delonte is the bigger risk (and I love Delonte).

[Roy Hobbs]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

This.  Plus, Starbury has repeatedly been a disruption with his teammates.  Also, as far as not being a "criminal", he's got a conviction for DUI under his belt, which is more than can be said for Delonte.

While I definitely like Delonte's game more than Marbury's, if we are talking criminal acts, Delonte's is WAYYYYY worse. DUIs are a dime a dozen nowadays. I am in no way condoning it, but seriously, three guns, with a shotgun in a guitar case? Even James Bond would have to back off from that.

I also don't think Marbury was all that much of a disruption this past year with the Celtics. I know he has a history of this, but he didn't show it here. He may be a little 'off the wall', but as of right now, Delonte is the bigger risk (and I love Delonte).

The fact remains that at this point, between Delonte and Starbury there is only one convicted "criminal", and it's not Delonte.  Also, between transporting an unregistered (but legal) weapon, and driving while intoxicated, I wouldn't be so quick to say that the transportation charge is worse.  Delonte's actions, in and of themselves, didn't put anybody at serious risk, while Starbury's did.   

[greenwise]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

This.  Plus, Starbury has repeatedly been a disruption with his teammates.  Also, as far as not being a "criminal", he's got a conviction for DUI under his belt, which is more than can be said for Delonte.

While I definitely like Delonte's game more than Marbury's, if we are talking criminal acts, Delonte's is WAYYYYY worse. DUIs are a dime a dozen nowadays. I am in no way condoning it, but seriously, three guns, with a shotgun in a guitar case? Even James Bond would have to back off from that.

I also don't think Marbury was all that much of a disruption this past year with the Celtics. I know he has a history of this, but he didn't show it here. He may be a little 'off the wall', but as of right now, Delonte is the bigger risk (and I love Delonte).

The fact remains that at this point, between Delonte and Starbury there is only one convicted "criminal", and it's not Delonte.  Also, between transporting an unregistered (but legal) weapon, and driving while intoxicated, I wouldn't be so quick to say that the transportation charge is worse.  Delonte's actions, in and of themselves, didn't put anybody at serious risk, while Starbury's did.   

In Spanish we say that "guns are loaded by the devil". I don't agree with that Roy. He put himself and the rest of citizens in danger. Going on the road with a set of loaded weapons concerns everybody, and it is a danger to all

[mgent]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

This.  Plus, Starbury has repeatedly been a disruption with his teammates.  Also, as far as not being a "criminal", he's got a conviction for DUI under his belt, which is more than can be said for Delonte.

While I definitely like Delonte's game more than Marbury's, if we are talking criminal acts, Delonte's is WAYYYYY worse. DUIs are a dime a dozen nowadays. I am in no way condoning it, but seriously, three guns, with a shotgun in a guitar case? Even James Bond would have to back off from that.

I also don't think Marbury was all that much of a disruption this past year with the Celtics. I know he has a history of this, but he didn't show it here. He may be a little 'off the wall', but as of right now, Delonte is the bigger risk (and I love Delonte).

The fact remains that at this point, between Delonte and Starbury there is only one convicted "criminal", and it's not Delonte.  Also, between transporting an unregistered (but legal) weapon, and driving while intoxicated, I wouldn't be so quick to say that the transportation charge is worse.  Delonte's actions, in and of themselves, didn't put anybody at serious risk, while Starbury's did.   

In Spanish we say that "guns are loaded by the devil". I don't agree with that Roy. He put himself and the rest of citizens in danger. Going on the road with a set of loaded weapons concerns everybody, and it is a danger to all

How so?  Plenty of people carry guns safely.

A car is just as deadly of a weapon.  The difference is, when you're under the influence you have less control.  Drunk driving is much more dangerous than illegally holding a gun.

The question remains, why does Delonte need to illegally carry a gun?  Delonte's situation is a little more complicated than a stupid DUI mistake.  But currently he is not guilty of putting anyone in danger.

[greenwise]

So Marbury would be worth the gamble too, right?  He's only crazy, not dangerous, neither is he a criminal.

Let's hear the excuses as to why you would take a chance on West and not Marbury.  Remember, Marbury would be only a one year deal, not several years for millions of dollars.

Delonte has shown he can play as recently as the NBA playoffs.

Marbury hasn't been an effective NBA player for 3 years.

This.  Plus, Starbury has repeatedly been a disruption with his teammates.  Also, as far as not being a "criminal", he's got a conviction for DUI under his belt, which is more than can be said for Delonte.

While I definitely like Delonte's game more than Marbury's, if we are talking criminal acts, Delonte's is WAYYYYY worse. DUIs are a dime a dozen nowadays. I am in no way condoning it, but seriously, three guns, with a shotgun in a guitar case? Even James Bond would have to back off from that.

I also don't think Marbury was all that much of a disruption this past year with the Celtics. I know he has a history of this, but he didn't show it here. He may be a little 'off the wall', but as of right now, Delonte is the bigger risk (and I love Delonte).

The fact remains that at this point, between Delonte and Starbury there is only one convicted "criminal", and it's not Delonte.  Also, between transporting an unregistered (but legal) weapon, and driving while intoxicated, I wouldn't be so quick to say that the transportation charge is worse.  Delonte's actions, in and of themselves, didn't put anybody at serious risk, while Starbury's did.   

In Spanish we say that "guns are loaded by the devil". I don't agree with that Roy. He put himself and the rest of citizens in danger. Going on the road with a set of loaded weapons concerns everybody, and it is a danger to all

How so?  Plenty of people carry guns safely.

A car is just as deadly of a weapon.  The difference is, when you're under the influence you have less control.  Drunk driving is much more dangerous than illegally holding a gun.

The question remains, why does Delonte need to illegally carry a gun?  Delonte's situation is a little more complicated than a stupid DUI mistake.  But currently he is not guilty of putting anyone in danger.

I obviously don't think that having a gun is safe, quite the opposite. But that's maybe the European mentality, though. I don't want any gun close to me

[Fafnir]

A car is just as deadly of a weapon.  The difference is, when you're under the influence you have less control.  Drunk driving is much more dangerous than illegally holding a gun.

Yes and no. A car isn't a device that is designed to kill efficiently from a distance.

Driving in a manic state, recklessly, and having a gun seems to be pretty dangerous behavior to me.

[mgent]

A car is just as deadly of a weapon.  The difference is, when you're under the influence you have less control.  Drunk driving is much more dangerous than illegally holding a gun.

Yes and no. A car isn't a device that is designed to kill efficiently from a distance.

Driving in a manic state, recklessly, and having a gun seems to be pretty dangerous behavior to me.

A gun is certainly a more efficient killer, but they're equally deadly.  You can't be more dead than dead.

[Roy Hobbs]

A car is just as deadly of a weapon.  The difference is, when you're under the influence you have less control.  Drunk driving is much more dangerous than illegally holding a gun.

Yes and no. A car isn't a device that is designed to kill efficiently from a distance.

Driving in a manic state, recklessly, and having a gun seems to be pretty dangerous behavior to me.

Whoa...  how do we know he was in a "manic state"?  He was speeding.  Most of us do that.  I wouldn't recommend cutting in front of a marked police car, but let's judge Delonte on the facts.

Just because he has bi-polar doesn't mean that he's having some sort of manic (or depressive) episode.  For all we know, his condition is being regulated with medication, and he's perfectly stable.  Not all people who own guns (or drive with guns) are crazy.