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Eddie House Expendable?
« on: September 19, 2009, 10:53:45 PM »

Offline billysan

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Just a bit of fantasy and speculation probably. I had the idea: 'What if?' Lester Hudson seriously impresses the staff in camp, especially defensively, he could make Eddie House expendable. Lester is certainly an athlete and if he plays defense like he may be capable of, he could take Eddies job. He can certainly shoot the basketball so scoring wouldnt be an issue either.

Lester Hudson has to play excellent pressure and man defense against NBA PG for this to work and I think he is capable. He will then have to learn to play within our system. I see the desire based on his track record. This guy doesnt give up and the physical tools cannot be denied.

If he takes Eddies job, we can certainly do a nice trade with Sacramento for Nocioni. Something like House, Allen, Scalabrine for Nocioni and Spanish Chocolate works on the Espn Trade Machine. I would even throw in a future first for this trade.
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Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 11:13:08 PM »

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I don't think Eddie is expendable.  He's proven that he can perform in the playoffs; regardless of how well Hudson plays, I'm not sure that I'd trust him to handle playoff pressure.

Also, I've seen a lot of people talk about Lester Hudson filling "Eddie's role".  Hudson shot 35.5% from three last year, with a shorter college free throw line against vastly inferior competition.  Eddie House shot 44.4% from three.  Eddie's ability to stretch the floor is very, very important, and I have no confidence that Hudson can duplicate that.

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Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 11:19:42 PM »

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I can understand where you're coming from, but unless Rondo develops a consistent shot, Eddie isn't going anywhere. They cover for each-others weaknesses.

Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 11:37:11 PM »

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I sit behind Eddies wife and family at the games.
They are happy to be in Boston, and don't want to move around anymore...especially with the kids getting older.

This is why Eddie has settled for less to stay.

With that said, Eddie is a fiery, gutsy veteran who knows his role.
Shoot the 3, and nail it.

He is a perfect fit for this team, and I don't see him losing time.

Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 01:22:25 AM »

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Well House is in his last year, so if Lester could fill that role then he could try it out this year then take it over next year, plus save us some money. Lester is also MUCH bigger and stronger than House so he could be an upgrade defensively.

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2009, 01:37:24 AM »

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Nope...House is necessary---NOT Expendable---Brings great energy off the bench---Doc Rivers almost lost us the Championship by NOT using House in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs in 2008---When Doc finally went back to his regular season rotation,the C's DOMINATED the Pistons and Lakers.

Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 02:24:49 AM »

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Are you kidding?

This House is solid and is not moving anywhere ;)

Eddie has finally found a home after years moving around the league and the team needs his clutch shooting, energy boost and leadership. There will always be place for 15-20 minutes of intensity, three pointers and Eddie chants in the Gaaahhhrden!!  :)

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 03:28:22 AM »

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Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2009, 07:18:27 AM »

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House has a definite role in this team and this role is too important for him to become expendable : he is a great shooter and energizer from the bench, and he can fire up the crowd in 5 seconds.

However, I would be glad to see some Hudson/House chemistry on the court, like the one shared by Marbury and Eddie last year... it's unlikely but it would be real cool and the two players would be complimentary!

Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2009, 08:12:27 AM »

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The whole point of this thread was not to bash Eddie House. I like Eddie but I think that as time goes on we will eventually, sooner than later, replace him with a young and/or cheaper player. It is possible that player is Lester Hudson or one similar to him. When that day comes, why not trade him and get good value for him if we dont have the roster spot or if we get a chance to upgrade the team?

Eddie House definitely has an important role on the Celtics. I dont agree he cannot be replaced. From a business standpoint if you have another player who duplicates his role and does it for less money, you replace him.

I agree Eddie is a great guy, but I dont think he is a 'glue guy' that is necessary in the locker room. I know he is a very good 3 pt shooter and can usually be relied upon to score off the bench when you need it. Even having the occaisional 20 pt outburst is good as well.

Eddie is however a problem for the Celtics because of his packaging. He has a PG sized body with a SG quality jump shot. He plays average defense against PG and below average against SG because of his height. We are constantly scheming to get Eddie in a position to be a shooter on the wing. Ideally this means someone other than Eddie is handling the ball or initiating the offense.

I believe that when the day comes the Celtics can acquire a defensive stopper at PG that can knock down an open jumper, Eddie will become expendable or a 3rd PG at best. If we have the roster space Eddie will stay as a designated 3pt shooter, but his salary will not be quite as high IMO. He has already experienced this situation before. Not his fault I agree, but reality. This is why he hasnt stuck for long or found a home on another team.
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Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2009, 08:42:31 AM »

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I don't think Eddie is expendable. 
???

Undersized "shoot first, shoot second" guards are commodities in the NBA.  He's not expendable?

Playoff proven?  I know you are good at citing stats, and maybe they say otherwise, but for House's whole career he's been a notoriously bad clutch/playoff performer.  I remember this distinctly before he even showed up in Boston.


In any case are you saying he's not expendable relative to Hudson?  With that I'd agree.  But "not expendable"?  C'mon now.
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Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2009, 09:13:10 AM »

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Even if Hudson came on strong enough to make it into Doc's playoff rotation in 2011, I think he'd still want House as that instant 3pt havoc-causing guy off the bench.  Now, if the C's trade to get another guard who offers that, things would change.  But Daniels isn't an outside guy, nor, really, are the other young guys we have.  Short of bringing another Eddie in, the C's want 'Short Eddie' for the next two years.

Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 09:27:11 AM »

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I hope not, I love the energy Eddie brings off the bench, and when he is on with his 3 threes it gets everyone going.

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 09:33:26 AM »

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I don't think Eddie is expendable. 
???

Undersized "shoot first, shoot second" guards are commodities in the NBA.  He's not expendable?

Playoff proven?  I know you are good at citing stats, and maybe they say otherwise, but for House's whole career he's been a notoriously bad clutch/playoff performer.  I remember this distinctly before he even showed up in Boston.


In any case are you saying he's not expendable relative to Hudson?  With that I'd agree.  But "not expendable"?  C'mon now.

He's not expendable with the current options on the market, no.

As for the playoffs, are you forgetting the 2009 postseason?  I don't really need any fancy stats here, just a good memory.  However, as for stats:  he shot 48.6% from three, and 51.9% overall, last year.  He had a couple of huge games for us.  He's not somebody that I'd move readily, although of course he's not untouchable.
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Re: Eddie House Expendable?
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2009, 09:40:08 AM »

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I don't think Eddie is expendable. 
???

Undersized "shoot first, shoot second" guards are commodities in the NBA.  He's not expendable?

Playoff proven?  I know you are good at citing stats, and maybe they say otherwise, but for House's whole career he's been a notoriously bad clutch/playoff performer.  I remember this distinctly before he even showed up in Boston.


In any case are you saying he's not expendable relative to Hudson?  With that I'd agree.  But "not expendable"?  C'mon now.

I have to agree with Brick.

House is a greater shooter, but he doesn't bring much else to the table. I was hoping he'd opt out so we could get a realbackup pointguard in his place this summer. In my opinion, someone like Luther Head would have been an upgrade.
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