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Corey Brewer?
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:17:14 AM »

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With the Wolves signing Pavlovic, I wonder whether the ship has sailed for Brewer in Minny. He obviously hasn't pained out as a lottery pick due to his limited offensive game, but he could still become an excellent defender and has the maturity to fit in with a veteran Cs team.

I don't think it's far fetched to imagine Kahn taking ltd value for him. He is, after all, an McHale guy.
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Re: Corey Brewer?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 09:18:58 AM »

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I don't think we have anything attractive to Kahn, nor is Brewer a bad contract that Kahn needs to shed.

Unless you're willing to give up a future number one I don't see any deal working.

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 09:32:49 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 09:37:22 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 09:41:27 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.

tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 09:46:30 AM »

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all I know is that anyone on the team BK (before Kahn) should be renting, not buying right now
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 09:51:12 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.

tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
Brewer is on the last year of his rookie deal. He can just have him benched and cut him loose if Sasha wins his playing time. The deal wouldn't make any sense for the wolves unless they're getting a prospect/asset/money back.

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Dont really have any interest in TA version 2.0 here.  Most people say he really hasnt improved much since he graduated, so he kinda went from a guy that plays solid D with offensive upside to a guy that plays solid D.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 10:17:15 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.

tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
Brewer is on the last year of his rookie deal. He can just have him benched and cut him loose if Sasha wins his playing time. The deal wouldn't make any sense for the wolves unless they're getting a prospect/asset/money back.

you can make the arguement in reverse -- if they plan on sitting him they might as well take a chance on another player. kahn certainly seems prone to dealing old news parts. if it takes a little cash or a 2nd round pick than so be it. if he wants a 1st, than no thanks.

my interest in brewer stems from his size and length at the SF position. to rondo822's point, he's a good 4 inches taller and longer than TA. i'm looking for a defender at the SF position for our friends like lebron, vince carter, etc.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 10:18:15 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.

tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
Brewer is on the last year of his rookie deal. He can just have him benched and cut him loose if Sasha wins his playing time. The deal wouldn't make any sense for the wolves unless they're getting a prospect/asset/money back.

you can make the arguement in reverse -- if they plan on sitting him they might as well take a chance on another player. kahn certainly seems prone to dealing old news parts. if it takes a little cash or a 2nd round pick than so be it. if he wants a 1st, than no thanks.

my interest in brewer stems from his size and length at the SF position. to rondo822's point, he's a good 4 inches taller and longer than TA. i'm looking for a defender at the SF position for our friends like lebron, vince carter, etc.
If he wants to jettison Brewer I think he'll get much better offers than Tony Allen.

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 10:32:08 AM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.



tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
Brewer is on the last year of his rookie deal. He can just have him benched and cut him loose if Sasha wins his playing time. The deal wouldn't make any sense for the wolves unless they're getting a prospect/asset/money back.

you can make the arguement in reverse -- if they plan on sitting him they might as well take a chance on another player. kahn certainly seems prone to dealing old news parts. if it takes a little cash or a 2nd round pick than so be it. if he wants a 1st, than no thanks.

my interest in brewer stems from his size and length at the SF position. to rondo822's point, he's a good 4 inches taller and longer than TA. i'm looking for a defender at the SF position for our friends like lebron, vince carter, etc.
If he wants to jettison Brewer I think he'll get much better offers than Tony Allen.

i just did a quick scan of eastern conference teams and couldn't find a single sensible trade of brewer for those teams. reddick? worth too much. antoine wright? rather have TA and salaries don't match. cleveland has no need. ditto for the hawks. dorell wright? don't think so. i couldn't even find a knicks player who they'd trade in a salary match.

my point is simply that brewer is not worth much to many teams. but this assumes they actually actively shop him.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 01:50:54 PM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.



tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
Brewer is on the last year of his rookie deal. He can just have him benched and cut him loose if Sasha wins his playing time. The deal wouldn't make any sense for the wolves unless they're getting a prospect/asset/money back.

you can make the arguement in reverse -- if they plan on sitting him they might as well take a chance on another player. kahn certainly seems prone to dealing old news parts. if it takes a little cash or a 2nd round pick than so be it. if he wants a 1st, than no thanks.

my interest in brewer stems from his size and length at the SF position. to rondo822's point, he's a good 4 inches taller and longer than TA. i'm looking for a defender at the SF position for our friends like lebron, vince carter, etc.
If he wants to jettison Brewer I think he'll get much better offers than Tony Allen.

i just did a quick scan of eastern conference teams and couldn't find a single sensible trade of brewer for those teams. reddick? worth too much. antoine wright? rather have TA and salaries don't match. cleveland has no need. ditto for the hawks. dorell wright? don't think so. i couldn't even find a knicks player who they'd trade in a salary match.

my point is simply that brewer is not worth much to many teams. but this assumes they actually actively shop him.
Why restrict yourself to eastern teams? If they're down on Brewer they'll ship him wherever they get the best deal.

Again Tony Allen has basically no value around the league with his personal issues. Brewer probably still does, at least to some teams.

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 02:22:54 PM »

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well he's certainly not worth a 1st round pick. he's been aweful and had a hard time staying on the court. this begs the question why i'm trying to trade for the guy -- could tony allen be more valuable to them than brewer? better offensive player, better defender, equally injury prone, just not as.... bright.
Do you think Tony is a better player then, or has better upside? Because unless Minnesota thinks so it won't happen.



tough question. brewer's upside is tayshan prince with no jumper. tony's 'upside' is obviously higher than that, but he suffers from brain farts as we all know. obviously, kahn doesn't do this unless he's highly sour on brewer, but i don't imagine he's going to get great offers for brewer around the league, and he'd likely rather give pavolvic PT.
Brewer is on the last year of his rookie deal. He can just have him benched and cut him loose if Sasha wins his playing time. The deal wouldn't make any sense for the wolves unless they're getting a prospect/asset/money back.

you can make the arguement in reverse -- if they plan on sitting him they might as well take a chance on another player. kahn certainly seems prone to dealing old news parts. if it takes a little cash or a 2nd round pick than so be it. if he wants a 1st, than no thanks.

my interest in brewer stems from his size and length at the SF position. to rondo822's point, he's a good 4 inches taller and longer than TA. i'm looking for a defender at the SF position for our friends like lebron, vince carter, etc.
If he wants to jettison Brewer I think he'll get much better offers than Tony Allen.

i just did a quick scan of eastern conference teams and couldn't find a single sensible trade of brewer for those teams. reddick? worth too much. antoine wright? rather have TA and salaries don't match. cleveland has no need. ditto for the hawks. dorell wright? don't think so. i couldn't even find a knicks player who they'd trade in a salary match.

my point is simply that brewer is not worth much to many teams. but this assumes they actually actively shop him.
Why restrict yourself to eastern teams? If they're down on Brewer they'll ship him wherever they get the best deal.

Again Tony Allen has basically no value around the league with his personal issues. Brewer probably still does, at least to some teams.
Brewer is Minny's version of TA.  He's not going anywhere either.  TA is more likely to be moved than Brewer simply because he's a slightly bigger contract coming off the books at the end of the year. 

Anyone that has any interest in Brewer for next year just needs to wait until free agency next year to offer him a cheap contract. 

I don't see the impending need to move TA just for Brewer.  Save TA to combine with Scal (and maybe House/Giddens/Walker) for a much better, impact bench player midseason. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 05:02:31 PM »

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I was really high on the possibility of getting Pavlovic..oh well. Just like when Barnes signed in Orlando, Pav signed for little money...its as if good free agents hate Boston for some reason...is it really that cold up there?(I'm in TN)
Anyways, I'm all for dumping Tony and a 2ndrounder for Brewer
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 06:18:24 PM »

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Does Brewer not have two years left on his rookie deal?

He came out with Mike Conley, Greg Oden and Kevin Durant right? They were all in the same draft right? I think they were.