College football 2009

[Bahku]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

[Roy Hobbs]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

[RAcker]

Wow, Boston College talk.    Roll Tide.

[RAcker]

Oklahoma is giving Colt and Texas all they can handle today and more. Kinda saw this coming with the improvements to the Sooners' defense this fall. Score is 6 to zip, Oklahoma, in the second quarter.

I think Texas is overrated.  To me, the two best teams (hands down) are Florida and Alabama, not necessarily in that order.

(While I've always been a Huskers fan, I've always had a soft sport in my heart for the Crimson Tide, too.)

Thank you for giving my boys props.  As usual, I was at the game in Tuscaloosa last night. Our passing game was terrible.  Despite this, we won 20-6. 

Defense wins championships (which C's fans should identify with) and Alabama firmly believes they have the best in the country.  That team that Florida just beat with a last second field goal yesterday lost in Tuscaloosa 35-7.

I'm glad that everybody seems to be in love with Tebow and Florida.  I want Alabama to be the underdog.  It will make it all that much sweeter.

[Eja117]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

[celticinorlando]

bama vs texas for it all...

[Roy Hobbs]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

[Eja117]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

Well there was this thing called the Fiesta Bowl where mighty Oklahoma got beat. Then last year when undefeated Utah beat the snot out of Bama, which had been the #1 team in the country.

We just saw Texas beat Oklahoma by two whole points without Bradford on the field. That's the same Oklahoma that BYU beat handily but with a healthier Bradford. We just saw the Gators beat Arkansas at home in the last 30 seconds.  Bama is the same team as last year, but with a new QB and without their 1rst round pick Andre Smith

so yes. I think it's feasible that BSU is # 1 or 2.

[Roy Hobbs]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

Well there was this thing called the Fiesta Bowl where mighty Oklahoma got beat. Then last year when undefeated Utah beat the snot out of Bama, which had been the #1 team in the country.

We just saw Texas beat Oklahoma by two whole points without Bradford on the field. That's the same Oklahoma that BYU beat handily but with a healthier Bradford. We just saw the Gators beat Arkansas at home in the last 30 seconds.  Bama is the same team as last year, but with a new QB and without their 1rst round pick Andre Smith

so yes. I think it's feasible that BSU is # 1 or 2.

Texas struggled to beat a very good team.  Florida struggled to beat a very good team.

Boise State struggled to beat a very mediocre Tulsa team.  It would be one thing if Boise trounced their opponent while everyone else struggled, but Boise had the easiest match up, and barely held on.

[Eja117]

Alabama has beaten 3 ranked teams, but Florida, Boise St, Texas, Cincy, Iowa, and TCU have all beaten only 1 ranked team and are all undefeated.

Florida and Texas shouldn't just automatically have a higher ranking, but they do

[RAcker]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

Well there was this thing called the Fiesta Bowl where mighty Oklahoma got beat. Then last year when undefeated Utah beat the snot out of Bama, which had been the #1 team in the country.

We just saw Texas beat Oklahoma by two whole points without Bradford on the field. That's the same Oklahoma that BYU beat handily but with a healthier Bradford. We just saw the Gators beat Arkansas at home in the last 30 seconds.  Bama is the same team as last year, but with a new QB and without their 1rst round pick Andre Smith

so yes. I think it's feasible that BSU is # 1 or 2.

Wow...just wow.

[RAcker]

Alabama has beaten 3 ranked teams, but Florida, Boise St, Texas, Cincy, Iowa, and TCU have all beaten only 1 ranked team and are all undefeated.

Florida and Texas shouldn't just automatically have a higher ranking, but they do

So you are saying that Alabama should be #1 and Boise St. should be #2 ahead of Florida?

Any team that is undefeated in the SEC should automatically be ahead of any team in the WAC, Pac 10, Mountain West, etc.  Period.

Big 12 ain't too shabby either.

[Eja117]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

Well there was this thing called the Fiesta Bowl where mighty Oklahoma got beat. Then last year when undefeated Utah beat the snot out of Bama, which had been the #1 team in the country.

We just saw Texas beat Oklahoma by two whole points without Bradford on the field. That's the same Oklahoma that BYU beat handily but with a healthier Bradford. We just saw the Gators beat Arkansas at home in the last 30 seconds.  Bama is the same team as last year, but with a new QB and without their 1rst round pick Andre Smith

so yes. I think it's feasible that BSU is # 1 or 2.

Wow...just wow.

That's what you said last year while Utah was crushing Bama in a BCS bowl right?

The sense of entitlement by the BCS teams despite consistent failure against the non-BCS teams is astonishing.

Hawaii. They got beat pretty bad. The BCS teams have that going for them

[RAcker]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

Well there was this thing called the Fiesta Bowl where mighty Oklahoma got beat. Then last year when undefeated Utah beat the snot out of Bama, which had been the #1 team in the country.

We just saw Texas beat Oklahoma by two whole points without Bradford on the field. That's the same Oklahoma that BYU beat handily but with a healthier Bradford. We just saw the Gators beat Arkansas at home in the last 30 seconds.  Bama is the same team as last year, but with a new QB and without their 1rst round pick Andre Smith

so yes. I think it's feasible that BSU is # 1 or 2.

Wow...just wow.

That's what you said last year while Utah was crushing Bama in a BCS bowl right?

The sense of entitlement by the BCS teams despite consistent failure against the non-BCS teams is astonishing.

Hawaii. They got beat pretty bad. The BCS teams have that going for them

I'm glad you just brought that up since you already made the Andre Smith excuse for me.  Remember, that suspension came just a couple of days before that game.  Thanks.

[Eja117]

Wait, what's the controversy?

If people are worried about Boise State being disrespected, shouldn't they be heralding the BCS system, which is keeping Boise St. in the top five despite the voters jumping them?

Isn't that more like "sauce for the goose"? They're justifying their unfair system by putting certain teams high enough to (hopefully) placate them into not complaining ... not sure that's worth heralding.

How so?  I'm not following your argument.  What is the correct result, and how have the computers / voters kept that from happening?

I understand the criticism of voters for jumping Boise St. (first with Virginia Tech, then with USC and Cincy).  I don't understand what the current issue is, though; the computers seemingly have rectified whatever injustice was done by the jumping.

The correct result should probably be Boise St #2 or 3 but that didn't happen in any poll and it won't at the end of the season either, no matter what happens.

You think Boise State would beat Alabama, Florida, or Texas?  Until one of those three teams lose, I consider them the three best in the country.

Well there was this thing called the Fiesta Bowl where mighty Oklahoma got beat. Then last year when undefeated Utah beat the snot out of Bama, which had been the #1 team in the country.

We just saw Texas beat Oklahoma by two whole points without Bradford on the field. That's the same Oklahoma that BYU beat handily but with a healthier Bradford. We just saw the Gators beat Arkansas at home in the last 30 seconds.  Bama is the same team as last year, but with a new QB and without their 1rst round pick Andre Smith

so yes. I think it's feasible that BSU is # 1 or 2.

Texas struggled to beat a very good team.  Florida struggled to beat a very good team.

Boise State struggled to beat a very mediocre Tulsa team.  It would be one thing if Boise trounced their opponent while everyone else struggled, but Boise had the easiest match up, and barely held on.

Tulsa was 4-1 before Boise St came to town and beat them by a touchdown. They're at the top of CUSA West. Arkansas was basically 2-2 (they were 3-2, but Missouri St shouldn't count.) So now they are 3-3.

I see what you're saying Roy and Racker. Reputation should count for something. But at what point do the Mtn West and WAC get reputations? How many times do they have to embarrass teams?

If it were up to me and there had been a playoff system a few years ago I'd have invited Appalachian St