Bringing back the topic of Tony going to GS

[fanofgreen]

I am bringing up the topic again, now that we for sure have Quis on the squad.
A while ago i posted a trade suggestion of: Tony Allen to Golden State for Acie Law.

people replied about how Acie Law is terrible and he cant do this, he cant do that, look at his stats, he's garbage, etc, etc, etc....

First of all,:trading Tony Allen does in no way translate into getting a much better player in return. its called Trade value, and Tony's is low.

Second,: GS is stacked in the backcourt, and Don Nelson wont even consider giving Law or a few others (brandon wright, cj watson, mikki moore, devean george, speedy claxton) any consistent minutes. Don Nelson would be willing to take a player like Tony over Acie, b/c it would fit his system better.

Third,: Acie Law has the potential to get better, not all-star level, but above respectable level, especially as a backup pg on a championship calibe team. Right now, for those who say acie law is just as horrible as Tony, well then, i say this to you, "wouldn't you want a tony allen who could handle the ball?" tony allen + handles = Acie Law, which is why i see him as a slight upgrade

Fourth:, he does not need large minutes  or touches to be effective, and he has the big size at the pg position, that would allow him to play alongside eddie defensively . where eddie would cover the pg, and acie could handle guarding 2's better than eddie could b/c of the size.

Fifth,: It really allows Marquis to use his versatility  playing multiple positions. Instead of being stuck in only 2 positions (1,2) he can stretch to being versatile in 3 positions .(1,2,3)  . it'll stretch him back to his natural 3 position, and can help spell PPierce extra minutes

Acie Law is a safe, smart, upgrade from tony allen, this trade helps keep eddie at the 2 (where he is most comfortable, and effective), brings in a reliable ball-handler , opens up room on the wings for Bill Walker,increases Marquis' versatility and most importantly gets rid of Tony Allen.

Rondo/Law/Hudson
Allen/House/Giddens
Pierce/Daniels/Walker
Garnett/Davis/Scal
Perkins/Wallace/Williams

The simple fact that Law can handle the ball and the point ,and TA can't, makes all the difference on the second unit.

[Fan from VT]

I am bringing up the topic again, now that we for sure have Quis on the squad.
A while ago i posted a trade suggestion of: Tony Allen to Golden State for Acie Law.

people replied about how Acie Law is terrible and he cant do this, he cant do that, look at his stats, he's garbage, etc, etc, etc....

First of all,:trading Tony Allen does in no way translate into getting a much better player in return. its called Trade value, and Tony's is low.

Second,: GS is stacked in the backcourt, and Don Nelson wont even consider giving Law or a few others (brandon wright, cj watson, mikki moore, devean george, speedy claxton) any consistent minutes. Don Nelson would be willing to take a player like Tony over Acie, b/c it would fit his system better.

Third,: Acie Law has the potential to get better, not all-star level, but above respectable level, especially as a backup pg on a championship calibe team. Right now, for those who say acie law is just as horrible as Tony, well then, i say this to you, "wouldn't you want a tony allen who could handle the ball?" tony allen + handles = Acie Law, which is why i see him as a slight upgrade

Fourth:, he does not need large minutes  or touches to be effective, and he has the big size at the pg position, that would allow him to play alongside eddie defensively . where eddie would cover the pg, and acie could handle guarding 2's better than eddie could b/c of the size.

Fifth,: It really allows Marquis to use his versatility  playing multiple positions. Instead of being stuck in only 2 positions (1,2) he can stretch to being versatile in 3 positions .(1,2,3)  . it'll stretch him back to his natural 3 position, and can help spell PPierce extra minutes

Acie Law is a safe, smart, upgrade from tony allen, this trade helps keep eddie at the 2 (where he is most comfortable, and effective), brings in a reliable ball-handler , opens up room on the wings for Bill Walker,increases Marquis' versatility and most importantly gets rid of Tony Allen.

Rondo/Law/Hudson
Allen/House/Giddens
Pierce/Daniels/Walker
Garnett/Davis/Scal
Perkins/Wallace/Williams

The simple fact that Law can handle the ball and the point ,and TA can't, makes all the difference on the second unit.

I'd trade Tony for Wright, Watson, or Law, probably in that order. In fact, I think packaging Baby and Tony for Wright and Watson/Law (If Nelson isn't going to play them anyway) would be great for us.

[asterix]

I am bringing up the topic again, now that we for sure have Quis on the squad.
A while ago i posted a trade suggestion of: Tony Allen to Golden State for Acie Law.

people replied about how Acie Law is terrible and he cant do this, he cant do that, look at his stats, he's garbage, etc, etc, etc....

First of all,:trading Tony Allen does in no way translate into getting a much better player in return. its called Trade value, and Tony's is low.

Second,: GS is stacked in the backcourt, and Don Nelson wont even consider giving Law or a few others (brandon wright, cj watson, mikki moore, devean george, speedy claxton) any consistent minutes. Don Nelson would be willing to take a player like Tony over Acie, b/c it would fit his system better.

Third,: Acie Law has the potential to get better, not all-star level, but above respectable level, especially as a backup pg on a championship calibe team. Right now, for those who say acie law is just as horrible as Tony, well then, i say this to you, "wouldn't you want a tony allen who could handle the ball?" tony allen + handles = Acie Law, which is why i see him as a slight upgrade

Fourth:, he does not need large minutes  or touches to be effective, and he has the big size at the pg position, that would allow him to play alongside eddie defensively . where eddie would cover the pg, and acie could handle guarding 2's better than eddie could b/c of the size.

Fifth,: It really allows Marquis to use his versatility  playing multiple positions. Instead of being stuck in only 2 positions (1,2) he can stretch to being versatile in 3 positions .(1,2,3)  . it'll stretch him back to his natural 3 position, and can help spell PPierce extra minutes

Acie Law is a safe, smart, upgrade from tony allen, this trade helps keep eddie at the 2 (where he is most comfortable, and effective), brings in a reliable ball-handler , opens up room on the wings for Bill Walker,increases Marquis' versatility and most importantly gets rid of Tony Allen.

Rondo/Law/Hudson
Allen/House/Giddens
Pierce/Daniels/Walker
Garnett/Davis/Scal
Perkins/Wallace/Williams

The simple fact that Law can handle the ball and the point ,and TA can't, makes all the difference on the second unit.

I totally agree. Another option IMO is Javaris Critenton from Washington. same type of player. same money. same reasons listed above and he's third option behind agent zero and Daniels.

[xmuscularghandix]

He can't shoot threes, Nelson doesn't want him.

[lon3lytoaster]

I am bringing up the topic again, now that we for sure have Quis on the squad.
A while ago i posted a trade suggestion of: Tony Allen to Golden State for Acie Law.

people replied about how Acie Law is terrible and he cant do this, he cant do that, look at his stats, he's garbage, etc, etc, etc....

First of all,:trading Tony Allen does in no way translate into getting a much better player in return. its called Trade value, and Tony's is low.

Second,: GS is stacked in the backcourt, and Don Nelson wont even consider giving Law or a few others (brandon wright, cj watson, mikki moore, devean george, speedy claxton) any consistent minutes. Don Nelson would be willing to take a player like Tony over Acie, b/c it would fit his system better.

Third,: Acie Law has the potential to get better, not all-star level, but above respectable level, especially as a backup pg on a championship calibe team. Right now, for those who say acie law is just as horrible as Tony, well then, i say this to you, "wouldn't you want a tony allen who could handle the ball?" tony allen + handles = Acie Law, which is why i see him as a slight upgrade

Fourth:, he does not need large minutes  or touches to be effective, and he has the big size at the pg position, that would allow him to play alongside eddie defensively . where eddie would cover the pg, and acie could handle guarding 2's better than eddie could b/c of the size.

Fifth,: It really allows Marquis to use his versatility  playing multiple positions. Instead of being stuck in only 2 positions (1,2) he can stretch to being versatile in 3 positions .(1,2,3)  . it'll stretch him back to his natural 3 position, and can help spell PPierce extra minutes

Acie Law is a safe, smart, upgrade from tony allen, this trade helps keep eddie at the 2 (where he is most comfortable, and effective), brings in a reliable ball-handler , opens up room on the wings for Bill Walker,increases Marquis' versatility and most importantly gets rid of Tony Allen.

Rondo/Law/Hudson
Allen/House/Giddens
Pierce/Daniels/Walker
Garnett/Davis/Scal
Perkins/Wallace/Williams

The simple fact that Law can handle the ball and the point ,and TA can't, makes all the difference on the second unit.

I totally agree. Another option IMO is Javaris Critenton from Washington. same type of player. same money. same reasons listed above and he's third option behind agent zero and Daniels.

Antonio Daniels? He was traded to the Hornets, for Mike James I think. I actually wouldn't mind James for the year if we're giving up Tony and Scals. I doubt a better option shows up.

[Jeff]

I think the list of players I wouldn't trade Tony for is a lot shorter than the list of players I would

[blceltsfan]

It's not like there is any competition to acquire him, so teams will wait and see how their present rosters shake out. Danny understands his expiring contract has more value in Feb. and/or if we're lucky, TA will step up and show some signs, creating some interest sooner.

It's a no lose situation to keep him around and see what might happen along the way.

[KCattheStripe]

Tiny isn't 6'8" nor can he shoot 3's. What would Nellie do with him?

[JBcat]

Getting Law wouldn't be a bad trade however I'd like hold off trading Tony for now for 4 reasons.

1) Daniels is injury prone himself and if he gets hurt and Tony is gone we would have to rely on Giddens or Walker and that is a scary proposition with their lack of experience no matter how high you might be on them.   

2) Tony's trade value just based on his play on the court is very low much of because of his recent injuries which are the ankle surgery and the wrist problem.   If we hold onto him now and he plays like he did the first month of the season even though inconsistent play I think his value would go up a little.

3) As we get closer to the Feb trade deadline the expiring contracts become even more valuable especially if you combine it with other expiring contracts.  Also we have very good depth now however 1 or 2 injuries can change all that.  Having the flexibility of trading 1 or 2 expiring contracts to fill a need at that point could be very helpful for us. 

4) Law has some talent but hasn't proved that much.   All we are really looking for now is basically a third string PG whether it be Hudson or someone who is still out there.  Would Law be that much of an upgrade over what we can get without trading away anyone now?

[Who]

Tony Allen is a better player than Acie Law. I'd rather hold onto Tony.

[ItsPoweTime]

I think keeping Tony is the best option right now. Because this is a contract year he will probably perform very well and be able to maintain a higher level of focus. He has a lot riding on his performance right now.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Tony Allen is a better player than Acie Law. I'd rather hold onto Tony.

Short and sweet.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I'd like to bring back the topic of Tony going ANYWHERE besides Boston. I hear that Kyrgyzstan is in need of an underachieving shooting guard. I also understand that Siberia is lovely this time of year.

[fanofgreen]

I am bringing up the topic again, now that we for sure have Quis on the squad.
A while ago i posted a trade suggestion of: Tony Allen to Golden State for Acie Law.

people replied about how Acie Law is terrible and he cant do this, he cant do that, look at his stats, he's garbage, etc, etc, etc....

First of all,:trading Tony Allen does in no way translate into getting a much better player in return. its called Trade value, and Tony's is low.

Second,: GS is stacked in the backcourt, and Don Nelson wont even consider giving Law or a few others (brandon wright, cj watson, mikki moore, devean george, speedy claxton) any consistent minutes. Don Nelson would be willing to take a player like Tony over Acie, b/c it would fit his system better.

Third,: Acie Law has the potential to get better, not all-star level, but above respectable level, especially as a backup pg on a championship calibe team. Right now, for those who say acie law is just as horrible as Tony, well then, i say this to you, "wouldn't you want a tony allen who could handle the ball?" tony allen + handles = Acie Law, which is why i see him as a slight upgrade

Fourth:, he does not need large minutes  or touches to be effective, and he has the big size at the pg position, that would allow him to play alongside eddie defensively . where eddie would cover the pg, and acie could handle guarding 2's better than eddie could b/c of the size.

Fifth,: It really allows Marquis to use his versatility  playing multiple positions. Instead of being stuck in only 2 positions (1,2) he can stretch to being versatile in 3 positions .(1,2,3)  . it'll stretch him back to his natural 3 position, and can help spell PPierce extra minutes

Acie Law is a safe, smart, upgrade from tony allen, this trade helps keep eddie at the 2 (where he is most comfortable, and effective), brings in a reliable ball-handler , opens up room on the wings for Bill Walker,increases Marquis' versatility and most importantly gets rid of Tony Allen.

Rondo/Law/Hudson
Allen/House/Giddens
Pierce/Daniels/Walker
Garnett/Davis/Scal
Perkins/Wallace/Williams

The simple fact that Law can handle the ball and the point ,and TA can't, makes all the difference on the second unit.

I totally agree. Another option IMO is Javaris Critenton from Washington. same type of player. same money. same reasons listed above and he's third option behind agent zero and Daniels.

Antonio Daniels? He was traded to the Hornets, for Mike James I think. I actually wouldn't mind James for the year if we're giving up Tony and Scals. I doubt a better option shows up.

I agree, but Javaris Critenton and Mike James are to good (in comparison to Tony) to make that trade close to being equal.

[fanofgreen]

It's not like there is any competition to acquire him, so teams will wait and see how their present rosters shake out. Danny understands his expiring contract has more value in Feb. and/or if we're lucky, TA will step up and show some signs, creating some interest sooner.

It's a no lose situation to keep him around and see what might happen along the way.

That is the problem, If were relying on "Luck" for an professional basketball player to show some signs of ability on the court then we are in a world of trouble. If we wait until Feb. then we have to deal with relying on "Luck" to make a player play half-decent, thats not how you want to run a team, relying on luck. which is why i say trade Tony now for Law, that way you know you have a backup point who can handle the ball, and wont have to rely on luck to play at a respectable level.